i got annamarie in the list of non-deliveries, too. and michael jr. <br><br>m<br><br><br clear="all"> <br>--<br><br>Michael Herman<br>Michael Herman Associates<br><br><a href="http://www.michaelherman.com">http://www.michaelherman.com</a><br>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 5:34 PM, doug <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:os@footprintsinthewind.com">os@footprintsinthewind.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
Annamarie--<br>
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This one came through on the list. (But later than the copy directly to<br>
me).<br>
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On Wed, 2010-04-14 at 16:43 -0400, Annamarie Pluhar wrote:<br>
> Yeah, but they're (usually) logical. It's just figuring out what the<br>
> logic is!<br>
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> Were I ever to do software coaching, the tag line would be "the answer<br>
> is always a keystroke away..."<br>
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> On Apr 14, 2010, at 4:33 PM, doug wrote:<br>
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> > Harrison--<br>
> ><br>
> > This one came through.<br>
> ><br>
> > :- Doug.<br>
> ><br>
> > On Wed, 2010-04-14 at 15:56 -0400, Harrison Owen wrote:<br>
> > > Michael – you can add me to the list. There doesn’t seem to be any<br>
> > > rational – but whoever said that computers were rational???<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
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> > > ho<br>
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> > > Harrison Owen<br>
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> > > <a href="http://www.ho-image.com" target="_blank">www.ho-image.com</a> (Personal Website)<br>
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> > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives<br>
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> > > <a href="mailto:oslist@listserv.boisestate.edu">oslist@listserv.boisestate.edu</a>:<br>
> > ><br>
> > > <a href="http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html" target="_blank">http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html</a><br>
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> > ><br>
> > > From: OSLIST [mailto:<a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a>] On Behalf Of<br>
> > > Michael Herman<br>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 1:18 PM<br>
> > > To: <a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a><br>
> > > Subject: fixing oslist<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > hi all,<br>
> > ><br>
> > > i've just gotten word from our hosts at boise state. now is a<br>
> > > good<br>
> > > time, if you're having trouble posting to the list, i.e. your<br>
> > > messages<br>
> > > hits the archives but not everyone's inbox, to test this to make<br>
> > > sure<br>
> > > it's still happening -- and to document it for those who might be<br>
> > > able<br>
> > > to fix it.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > there are several -- lisa, michael jr., christine and christine,<br>
> > > and<br>
> > > myself, who i know have had troubles. this message might not even<br>
> > > make it out. but if it does, and you are one of these folks, i've<br>
> > > jiggled your settings a bit to see if that helps. try to post<br>
> > > again.<br>
> > > invite replies. if you don't get any, then forward the details<br>
> > > (see<br>
> > > message from bsu, below) and send to me to forward on to bsu.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > also, if you try to post from the website, DO NOT check the box to<br>
> > > receive a copy of your own post. that seems to be a problem (see<br>
> > > below from bsu.)<br>
> > ><br>
> > > in the meantime, if you can't mail directly to the list, try the<br>
> > > website. i know it's not the ideal situation, but what i've done<br>
> > > is<br>
> > > set myself on digest, so i get an unreadable mash of daily<br>
> > > postings,<br>
> > > but it has a simple list of message subjects at the top. that is<br>
> > > readable, and it's my cue that some things have been posted,<br>
> > > prompting<br>
> > > me to go to the site to read the ones i'm interested in. it's a<br>
> > > decent work around, for the moment.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > thanks, m<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > here is what i got today from boise state...<br>
> > ><br>
> > > I'm very puzzled by this behavior as well. I have had reports of<br>
> > > this<br>
> > > off and on for the last 6 to 9 months. I had one user go around<br>
> > > and<br>
> > > around with lsoft and basically lsoft blamed gmail. There's<br>
> > > another<br>
> > > guy who has earthlink as his provider and he's had all kinds of<br>
> > > problems. His posts wind up in the spam folder quite frequently.<br>
> > > I've also seen a thread on the list maintainers listserv that<br>
> > > suggests<br>
> > > that listserv is sending messages with duplicate message ids which<br>
> > > causes mailers to cull perfectly legitimate mail. This seems to<br>
> > > happen when people use the web gui and click the box to ask to a<br>
> > > receipt. I just documented another case of this today. I have<br>
> > > also<br>
> > > noticed that the sheer volume that hits the listserv machine has<br>
> > > reached ridiculous proportions. The spammers seem to start work<br>
> > > Friday afternoon and continue on through the weekend. So it's a<br>
> > > bloody mess.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > I will forward your query to lsoft support. You're certainly<br>
> > > welcome<br>
> > > to copy complaints on to me. I do need a date and time the<br>
> > > message<br>
> > > was sent and a description of what happened. I also need an email<br>
> > > address. I've been very busy since my job has changed here, so I<br>
> > > have<br>
> > > done triage on the listserv. I seem to have come up for air right<br>
> > > now, so this is an opportune time for me to work on these issues.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > I'll forward your query on to lsoft support as well. Always good<br>
> > > to<br>
> > > hear from you. Sorry your list isn't behaving. I'll get back to<br>
> > > you<br>
> > > with lsoft's suggestions if there are any.<br>
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