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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=NL style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Something
else to add to the mix of this conversation. The world, our organizations, our
communities; so many system breakdowns everywhere: in education , on
environment, economically, socially, etc. No need to list them all! So many
places where having the opportunity to "open space" and "invite
the gift of time" would help, could transform, add some joy to this
beautiful life, deliver higher performance, raise consciousness about what's
important and as we know, the list goes on. <br>
If only...!<br>
If only people could know what they can not know until they
"experience" it. And because that is so, they just keep on working
harder and faster trying to fix what's not working (so much more of it too)
doing what they've always done before because that's all they know. Well...! <br>
Well...when you care about Open Space; when you know what you know... that it
works every time (even when we think it didn’t work, it worked)  and
you want to do more of it because you have a passion for what you do in this <i>invitational
</i>and <i>invisible </i> role that we call facilitator.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=NL style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>And
then when you are like me, still very much an Open Space student having
facilitated only 6 times but participated in a total of 11 since “falling
in love” with this process last April because I just knew from my entire
life experience that this is not a technique, not a tool box process, it’s
something much bigger than that.   <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=NL style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>And
that’s why, “with trepidation”,  I posted an appeal to
help fix the Wikipedia site (without any of the knowledge of a Tonnie van der
Zouwen, or a Jeff Aitken, or a Larry Peterson; and without the experience and
know-how of those who do so much (like Harrison of course, Diane Gibeault, and Michael
Herman managing this wonderful list that gives me a place to speak...doing this,
for years!) .  So in spite of the butterflies in my stomach when I post
here and certainly when I facilitate, I see a need to document, to invent, to
create a way to say what we are doing, to <b>describe from a place of
conversation where people are at now</b> <b>in that not knowing place</b>...not
bend to academia but partner with academia so that some day, when people do a
google search (Open Space way of life) on the internet (Open Space way of life)
and Wikipedia pops up (Open Space way of life), there will be fewer red flags and
it will be a little easier for us to scale that first mountain of “inviting
people to do what they can not know until they do it”.  <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=NL style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>And
while a bunch of people smarter than me on that stuff are doing this (Tonnie,
Jeff, and others) , I’ve got a lot of  “Just do it” to
do in Open Space. Life sure is grand when you know there’s a bunch of
folks who speak their mind, care a lot, live in chaos, pain and joy, self
organize and share leadership; people who are so plain generous with newbies
like me and the welcome I’ve felt...those are the folks in this Open
Space community.  <br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=NL style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Enough
for now, passion is exhausting really!   :-}<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=NL style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=NL style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Suzanne</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tonnie van der
Zouwen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 03, 2009 6:24 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Open Space and academic research<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Harrison, thank you for your
ideas about right and wrong. It is about expectations, but also about our
benchmarks for performance. I think I understand what you are trying to say.
What happens is the only thing that could have happened. I agree, it’s
true. And that some control helps is paradoxically also true. We can’t
control the waves, but we can increase our skill to ride them. I think that is
why you share your wonderful stories about your experiences, and that is why
learning about technique of wave riding (from academic research or other
practices) might help too. For me those practices are part of the 
self-organizing world as well, and they helped to bring us where we are now.
 Still leaves me puzzled about your remark, wherein I sensed some regret,
about the ignorance of academics for 25 years of Open Space. I think that will
change if some researchers care and feel responsible. I do. Also part of the
self-organizing world. Will it make things better? I hope, that’s why we
Open Space, isn’t it?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Tonnie<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Van:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <b>Namens </b>Harrison Owen<br>
<b>Verzonden:</b> donderdag 3 december 2009 1:03<br>
<b>Aan:</b> </span><span lang=NL style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [OSLIST] Open Space and academic research<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:red'>Going “Wrong” is an interesting thing. My
“wrong” could be your “right” It all depends. So when I
hear about Open Spaces that go “wrong” I always wonder what the
expectations were. As for self-organizing systems – they always (in my
experience) try to “optimize.”  That would be called
“search for fitness.” And in the great sea of life, everything
works out … but some of it can be quite painful. I think that comes with
the territory, and no small amount of the pain comes from the fact that things
did not work out the way we desired. Funny thing: The Cosmos was not created
for our pleasure and benefit, I think. </span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:red'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:red'>Or put another way – I think self-organization always aims at
High Performance (by definition) – and some make it and others
don’t. Or at the very least, some do not perform as well as others
– which is how we derive our benchmarks for “High
Performance.” </span><o:p></o:p></p>

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color:red'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:red'>Could there be another way? Maybe. And for sure if the “Ruler
of the Cosmos (Him/her/It)” had consulted with us early on, doubtless we
could have come up with something better. But I am not sure about
“better.” Seems to me that for all the warts, pain, foibles,
weirdness, false starts, etc. – it is totally amazing that we are all
here 13.7 billion years from GO! – Albeit some of us are complaining
about how bad things are. Personally, and all evidence to the contrary –
I think it is wonderful!</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b>From:</b> OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tonnie
van der Zouwen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 02, 2009 9:42 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Open Space and academic research</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hi Harrison, </span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
color:#1F497D'>For sure, I’m having fun doing my research. Talking to you
and many other people who are experimenting with Self Organizing systems for
High Performance (an interesting reframing of my Large Scale Interventions for
sustainable change, to what extend do we mean the same?). I really appreciate
your sharing of insights and experiences, the great gift of your books.
Actually the experiment is repeated many times, by many practioners, matching
conditions and following procedures (that is what I call interventions) for
high performance results. My point is that it doesn’t always bring high
performance, and that things can go wrong. We don’t talk about the ones
that didn’t produce good results in publications. To put the cat among
the pigeons:  If we want to be taken seriously in the academic world,
maybe the invitation should not only be “repeat the experiment”,
but also “come and review our experiments, what performance did they
bring and why?” Finding out how the power of self organization can be
utilized and assisted  even better or more widely. </span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
color:#1F497D'>Tonnie</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <b>Namens </b>Harrison Owen<br>
<b>Verzonden:</b> woensdag 2 december 2009 13:26<br>
<b>Aan:</b> OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [OSLIST] Open Space and academic research</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red'>Hi Tonnie – My experience for
the last 25 years is that OS has been a marvelous natural experiment that I
just fell into. My hope would be that any and all curious people (people with
curiosity – which hopefully includes academics</span><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:red'>J</span><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red'>) would
have as much fun as I have. Truthfully, my interest in Open Space is less
focused on large group interventions, indeed any kind of intervention, but
rather on the function and power of self organizing systems and the ways in
which we might utilize and assist their gifts. </span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red'>The message of Wave Rider was not
that Open Space creates High Performance (although I think it does), but rather
that High Performance is a function a well performing Self Organizing system.
Open Space (for me) became a critical (but not only) part of the experimental
environment in which I considered all that business. You will notice that I set
the book up as a report on that experiment, detailing the experimental
conditions, procedure, and results to date. The invitation is to run the
experiment for yourself. All the questions you raise are totally valid and
should you run the experiment I am sure you will find your answers –
which may or may not accord with the answers (results) I found. But that is the
nature and fun of a good experiment. So how will you know? Just do it and find
out. Have fun.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b>From:</b> OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tonnie
van der Zouwen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 02, 2009 6:13 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Open Space and academic research</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span lang=NL>Dear</span><span
lang=NL style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><span
lang=NL> Harrison, </span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>Yesterday I was reading (almost)
all emails on this list. Learned a lot again. What I kept wandering about last
evening is your remark about how little attention to OST is paid so far in
academic research and publications. Since I am doing research on large scale
interventions (Success factors and effects and a practical guide for effective
use of LSI) <span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span>this
triggered me: What research questions would you like to be answered in academic
research? <span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span>What
would you like OST to be compared with? Then I realized that touches the
question: How to see OST and what is it used for? In your book Wave rider you
give examples of OST as a method for creating high performance systems. The
practitioner in me reacts: Ok, I know it works, let’s do it. The academic
researcher in me sais: He, interesting, how do I know the high performance
system is there? How long will it last? What is the influence of the length of
the meeting? Does it ripple off, why/why not? Et cetera. <o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>We had two conferences with
researchers, practitioners and clients about my research on success factors and
effects of LSI. Thanks again Harrison for contributing to the online
conference. In the discussions, especially in the live conference on September
17<sup>th</sup>, <span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span>a
wide gap showed between LSI practice and academic tradition. I think that
explains part of the relatively little attention in academic research. Some
practitioners say: “we don’t need evidence from research, we
already know it works”, or “research will never be able to grasp
the magic of ….” . While some <span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span>researchers
say: “It is all self reported success from founders and practitioners
with an interest in a positive image”, or “If you can’t
conceptualize it you should try harder”. Moreover, you have to work with
sophisticated qualitative research methods to do justice to complex situations
and the richness of an intervention as OST. It is my opinion most academic
institutes still operate in a classic quantitative or linear research
tradition. They don’t want to burn their hands on what they think wooly
stuff, or they simply don’t know how to inquire complex interventions. <o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>Another problem with finding
articles on<span style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span>
research on OST is that the phenomenon is labeled with different names. On the
level of OST as a large group intervention, or as an interactive method for
change more literature is available. But you don’t see OST in the title.
I gathered a long list of references, so if you are interested let me know. <o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>Luckily, there are also
practitioners and researchers who see possibilities and added value in academic
research. Especially those who combine both activities. <span style='font-family:
"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'>What would you want from research?<o:p></o:p></p>

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