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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=red face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>Hi Tonnie – My experience for the
last 25 years is that OS has been a marvelous natural experiment that I just
fell into. My hope would be that any and all curious people (people with
curiosity – which hopefully includes academics</span></font><font size=3
color=red face=Wingdings><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;
color:red'>J</span></font><font size=3 color=red face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>) would have as much fun
as I have. Truthfully, my interest in Open Space is less focused on large group
interventions, indeed any kind of intervention, but rather on the function and
power of self organizing systems and the ways in which we might utilize and
assist their gifts. </span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=red face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>The message of Wave Rider was not that Open
Space creates High Performance (although I think it does), but rather that High
Performance is a function a well performing Self Organizing system. Open Space
(for me) became a critical (but not only) part of the experimental environment
in which I considered all that business. You will notice that I set the book up
as a report on that experiment, detailing the experimental conditions,
procedure, and results to date. The invitation is to run the experiment for yourself.
All the questions you raise are totally valid and should you run the experiment
I am sure you will find your answers – which may or may not accord with
the answers (results) I found. But that is the nature and fun of a good
experiment. So how will you know? Just do it and find out. Have fun.</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Tonnie van der Zouwen<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, December 02, 2009
6:13 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Open Space and academic
research</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Calibri><span
lang=NL style='font-size:11.0pt'>Dear</span></font><font face="Times New Roman"><span
lang=NL style='font-family:"Times New Roman"'> </span></font><span
lang=NL> Harrison, </span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>Yesterday I was reading (almost) all emails on this
list. Learned a lot again. What I kept wandering about last evening is your
remark about how little attention to OST is paid so far in academic research
and publications. Since I am doing research on large scale interventions
(Success factors and effects and a practical guide for effective use of LSI) </span></font><font
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman"'> </span></font>this
triggered me: What research questions would you like to be answered in academic
research? <font face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman"'> </span></font>What
would you like OST to be compared with? Then I realized that touches the
question: How to see OST and what is it used for? In your book Wave rider you
give examples of OST as a method for creating high performance systems. The
practitioner in me reacts: Ok, I know it works, let’s do it. The academic
researcher in me sais: He, interesting, how do I know the high performance
system is there? How long will it last? What is the influence of the length of
the meeting? Does it ripple off, why/why not? Et cetera. </p>

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style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>We had two conferences with researchers, practitioners
and clients about my research on success factors and effects of LSI. Thanks
again Harrison for contributing to the online conference. In the discussions,
especially in the live conference on September 17<sup>th</sup>, </span></font><font
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman"'> </span></font>a
wide gap showed between LSI practice and academic tradition. I think that
explains part of the relatively little attention in academic research. Some
practitioners say: “we don’t need evidence from research, we
already know it works”, or “research will never be able to grasp
the magic of ….” . While some <font face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-family:"Times New Roman"'> </span></font>researchers say: “It
is all self reported success from founders and practitioners with an interest
in a positive image”, or “If you can’t conceptualize it you
should try harder”. Moreover, you have to work with sophisticated
qualitative research methods to do justice to complex situations and the
richness of an intervention as OST. It is my opinion most academic institutes
still operate in a classic quantitative or linear research tradition. They don’t
want to burn their hands on what they think wooly stuff, or they simply don’t
know how to inquire complex interventions. </p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>Another problem with finding articles on</span></font><font
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman"'> </span></font>
research on OST is that the phenomenon is labeled with different names. On the
level of OST as a large group intervention, or as an interactive method for
change more literature is available. But you don’t see OST in the title.
I gathered a long list of references, so if you are interested let me know. </p>

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style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>Luckily, there are also practitioners and researchers
who see possibilities and added value in academic research. Especially those
who combine both activities. </span></font><font face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-family:"Times New Roman"'> </span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>What would you want from research?</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Calibri><span
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