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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Hi Harrison, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>For sure, I’m
having fun doing my research. Talking to you and many other people who are
experimenting with Self Organizing systems for High Performance (an interesting
reframing of my Large Scale Interventions for sustainable change, to what
extend do we mean the same?). I really appreciate your sharing of insights and
experiences, the great gift of your books. Actually the experiment is repeated
many times, by many practioners, matching conditions and following procedures (that
is what I call interventions) for high performance results. My point is that it
doesn’t always bring high performance, and that things can go wrong. We
don’t talk about the ones that didn’t produce good results in
publications. To put the cat among the pigeons: If we want to be taken
seriously in the academic world, maybe the invitation should not only be “repeat
the experiment”, but also “come and review our experiments, what
performance did they bring and why?” Finding out how the power of self
organization can be utilized and assisted even better or more widely. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Tonnie<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Van:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <b>Namens </b>Harrison Owen<br>
<b>Verzonden:</b> woensdag 2 december 2009 13:26<br>
<b>Aan:</b> OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [OSLIST] Open Space and academic research<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:red'>Hi Tonnie – My experience for the last 25 years is that OS has
been a marvelous natural experiment that I just fell into. My hope would be that
any and all curious people (people with curiosity – which hopefully
includes academics</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;color:red'>J</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red'>) would have as much fun as I have.
Truthfully, my interest in Open Space is less focused on large group interventions,
indeed any kind of intervention, but rather on the function and power of self
organizing systems and the ways in which we might utilize and assist their
gifts. </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:red'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:red'>The message of Wave Rider was not that Open Space creates High
Performance (although I think it does), but rather that High Performance is a
function a well performing Self Organizing system. Open Space (for me) became a
critical (but not only) part of the experimental environment in which I
considered all that business. You will notice that I set the book up as a
report on that experiment, detailing the experimental conditions, procedure,
and results to date. The invitation is to run the experiment for yourself. All
the questions you raise are totally valid and should you run the experiment I
am sure you will find your answers – which may or may not accord with the
answers (results) I found. But that is the nature and fun of a good experiment.
So how will you know? Just do it and find out. Have fun.</span><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>-----Original
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<b>From:</b> OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tonnie
van der Zouwen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 02, 2009 6:13 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Open Space and academic research</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>Dear<span style='font-family:
"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span> Harrison, <span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'> <span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>Yesterday I was
reading (almost) all emails on this list. Learned a lot again. What I kept
wandering about last evening is your remark about how little attention to OST
is paid so far in academic research and publications. Since I am doing research
on large scale interventions (Success factors and effects and a practical guide
for effective use of LSI) </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><span
lang=EN-US>this triggered me: What research questions would you like to be
answered in academic research? </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><span
lang=EN-US>What would you like OST to be compared with? Then I realized that
touches the question: How to see OST and what is it used for? In your book Wave
rider you give examples of OST as a method for creating high performance
systems. The practitioner in me reacts: Ok, I know it works, let’s do it.
The academic researcher in me sais: He, interesting, how do I know the high
performance system is there? How long will it last? What is the influence of
the length of the meeting? Does it ripple off, why/why not? Et cetera. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>We had two
conferences with researchers, practitioners and clients about my research on
success factors and effects of LSI. Thanks again Harrison for contributing to
the online conference. In the discussions, especially in the live conference on
September 17<sup>th</sup>, </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><span
lang=EN-US>a wide gap showed between LSI practice and academic tradition. I
think that explains part of the relatively little attention in academic
research. Some practitioners say: “we don’t need evidence from
research, we already know it works”, or “research will never be
able to grasp the magic of ….” . While some </span><span
lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><span
lang=EN-US>researchers say: “It is all self reported success from
founders and practitioners with an interest in a positive image”, or
“If you can’t conceptualize it you should try harder”.
Moreover, you have to work with sophisticated qualitative research methods to
do justice to complex situations and the richness of an intervention as OST. It
is my opinion most academic institutes still operate in a classic quantitative
or linear research tradition. They don’t want to burn their hands on what
they think wooly stuff, or they simply don’t know how to inquire complex
interventions. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>Another problem
with finding articles on</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><span
lang=EN-US> research on OST is that the phenomenon is labeled with different
names. On the level of OST as a large group intervention, or as an interactive
method for change more literature is available. But you don’t see OST in
the title. I gathered a long list of references, so if you are interested let
me know. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>Luckily, there
are also practitioners and researchers who see possibilities and added value in
academic research. Especially those who combine both activities. </span><span
lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>What would you
want from research?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>Tonnie<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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