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font-family:Garamond'>Forwarded to OS-list – came to me only<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Peggy Holman [mailto:peggy@opencirclecompany.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Skickat:</span></b> den 30 november 2009
02:43<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Till:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">thomas@openspaceconsulting.com</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Ämne:</span></b> Re: [<st1:PersonName w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>]
SV: Statistics, was: Open Space Tech article on Wikipedia marked as spam, being
readied for "speedy deletion"</span></font><span lang=SV><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Michael,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>The OS I did in <st1:City w:st="on">Bogota</st1:City> with 1800+ street
kids and 300+ teachers or 2100+ people was essentially the same size as the one
done in <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Berlin</st1:place></st1:State>.
And it was 2 days!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I know that smaller OS's have been described on this list. I
believe that both Lisa and Chris Corrigan have told stories of OS meetings with
1 or 2 people. I'm pretty sure Chris also had a story of an OS where no
one came, though I take your point about a meeting with no one probably
wouldn't make much sense on Wikipedia!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Nov 29, 2009, at 3:05 PM, Thomas Herrmann wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 face=Garamond><span style='font-size:14.0pt;
font-family:Garamond'>OK, Michael – thanks<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 face=Garamond><span style='font-size:14.0pt;
font-family:Garamond'>Regarding the lower level – I agree it’s probably too
difficult to explain the mastery it takes to facilitate/participate in an OST,
as a facilitator, when no one shows up. Anyway, I agree that to people who are
new to Open Space, it might be a bit too much. <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 face=Garamond><span style='font-size:14.0pt;
font-family:Garamond'>If I ever get the chance I will sure invite myself to
having that experience.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 face=Garamond><span style='font-size:14.0pt;
font-family:Garamond'>Txs<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 face=Garamond><span style='font-size:14.0pt;
font-family:Garamond'>Thomas<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>Från:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <st1:personname u2:st="on"><st1:PersonName
w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:personname></st1:PersonName> [mailto:<st1:personname u2:st="on"><st1:PersonName
w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:personname></st1:PersonName>@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>För </span></b>Michael Herman<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Skickat:</span></b> den 29 november 2009
22:47<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Till:</span></b> <st1:personname u2:st="on"><st1:PersonName
w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:personname></st1:PersonName>@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Ämne:</span></b> Re: Statistics, was: Open
Space Tech article on Wikipedia marked as spam, being readied for "speedy
deletion"</span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>good on the <st1:country-region u2:st="on"><st1:place u2:st="on"><st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">sweden</st1:place></st1:country-region></st1:place></st1:country-region>
chartering, thomas. i'll fix that in my notes.<br>
<br>
and sticking with what we can document and cite in wikipedia, i decided to go
with 5 as the smallest, rather than try to explain the finer points of the
practice! wikipedia is not going to understand how a meeting methodology
can work in groups of "0" to 5000, i think <grin><br>
<br>
thanks, m<br>
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--<br>
<br>
Michael Herman<br>
Michael Herman Associates<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.michaelherman.com/">http://www.michaelherman.com</a><br>
<a href="http://www.ronanparktrail.com/">http://www.ronanparktrail.com</a><br>
<a href="http://www.chicagoconservationcorps.org/">http://www.chicagoconservationcorps.org</a><br>
<a href="http://www.openspaceworld.org/">http://www.openspaceworld.org</a><br>
<br>
312-280-7838 (mobile)<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Thomas Herrmann <<a
href="mailto:thomas@openspaceconsulting.com">thomas@openspaceconsulting.com</a>>
wrote:<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=4 face=Garamond><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Garamond'>Hi
Michael</span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=4 face=Garamond><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Garamond'>Thanks
for these statistics!! </span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=4 face=Garamond><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Garamond'> </span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=4 face=Garamond><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Garamond'>A
couple of suggested additions/corrections.</span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=4 face=Garamond><span style='font-size:14.0pt;
font-family:Garamond'>1.</span></font><font size=1><span style='font-size-adjust: none;
font-stretch: normal'><span style='font-size:7.0pt'>
</span></span></font><font size=4 face=Garamond><span style='font-size:14.0pt;
font-family:Garamond'>OSI Sweden is also a registered non-profit organization.</span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=4 face=Garamond><span style='font-size:14.0pt;
font-family:Garamond'>2.</span></font><font size=1><span style='font-size-adjust: none;
font-stretch: normal'><span style='font-size:7.0pt'>
</span></span></font><font size=4 face=Garamond><span style='font-size:14.0pt;
font-family:Garamond'>I actually think that Lisa Heft followed through with a
smaller OS-meeting – a record hard to break.</span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=4 face=Garamond><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Garamond'>Warm
regards</span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>
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size=4 face=Garamond><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Garamond'>Thomas
Herrmann</span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>
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size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:
bold'>Från:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <st1:personname u2:st="on"><st1:PersonName w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:personname></st1:PersonName>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" target="_blank">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a>]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>För </span></b>Michael Herman<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Skickat:</span></b> den 29 november 2009
20:37<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Till:</span></b> <a
href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" target="_blank">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Ämne:</span></b> Re: Open Space Tech article
on Wikipedia marked as spam, being readied for "speedy deletion"</span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>
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size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>i've wanted to ask
you all to help me build out a list of statistics, a sort of open space tech
"by the numbers". i was going to make this part of the osw
site, but it might come in very handy in posting as part of this wikipedia
article.<br>
<br>
here are some examples, please check my math and add any other interesting
numbers:<br>
<br>
-the first ost meeting happened in 1985 at the symposium for organization
transformation (OT)<br>
-a total of 20 OT symposia were held annually, that last 19 of them were run
"in open space"<br>
-ost meetings have now happened in 165 countries, as listed at <a
href="http://openspaceworldmap.org/" target="_blank">openspaceworldmap.org</a><br>
-there are 469 facilitators listed in the <a
href="http://openspaceworldmap.org/" target="_blank">openspaceworldmap.org</a><br>
-the worldwide open space on open space practitioner conference has been
annually since 1993<br>
-the wosonos conference has been held in 8 different countries <br>
-an email group, called <st1:personname u2:st="on"><st1:PersonName w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:personname></st1:PersonName>,
for practitioners worldwide was started in 1996.<br>
-as of december 2009, there are more than 26,400 messages in the <st1:personname u2:st="on"><st1:PersonName
w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:personname></st1:PersonName> publicly searchable
archives.<br>
-<st1:personname u2:st="on"><st1:PersonName w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:personname></st1:PersonName>
membership in december 2009 stood at 662.<br>
-there are __ open space institutes active around the world.<br>
-three open space institute groups (US, <st1:country-region u2:st="on"><st1:country-region
w:st="on">Canada</st1:country-region></st1:country-region>, and <st1:place u2:st="on"><st1:country-region u2:st="on"><st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Germany</st1:country-region></st1:place></st1:place></st1:country-region>)
are formal, government-chartered, non-profit organizations<br>
-<a href="http://openspaceworld.org/" target="_blank">openspaceworld.org</a>
offers (or links to) explanations of open space technology in more than 20 different
languages.<br>
-<st1:place u2:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">harrison</st1:place></st1:place>
owen has authored 8 books on the process.<br>
-<st1:place u2:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">harrison</st1:place></st1:place>
owen estimates that there have been more than 100,000 applications of open
space since 1985.<br>
-the smallest open space meeting commonly reported was a meeting run by <st1:place u2:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">harrison</st1:place></st1:place> owen, for 5 participants (when 7
others were snowed out)<br>
-the largest open space meetings commonly reported were in germany, 2108
participants, facilitated by harrison owen and michael pannwitz (theme?) and
____ participants at a girl scouts event in _______, facilitated by christine
whitney sanchez and (others?)<br>
<br>
what other numbers might we offer? and did i get these right?<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
--<br>
<br>
Michael Herman<br>
Michael Herman Associates<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.michaelherman.com/" target="_blank">http://www.michaelherman.com</a><br>
<a href="http://www.ronanparktrail.com/" target="_blank">http://www.ronanparktrail.com</a><br>
<a href="http://www.chicagoconservationcorps.org/" target="_blank">http://www.chicagoconservationcorps.org</a><br>
<a href="http://www.openspaceworld.org/" target="_blank">http://www.openspaceworld.org</a><br>
<br>
312-280-7838 (mobile)<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>On Sun, Nov 29,
2009 at 1:09 PM, <st1:personname u2:st="on"><st1:PersonName w:st="on">Harrison
Owen</st1:personname></st1:PersonName> <<a href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net"
target="_blank">hhowen@verizon.net</a>> wrote:<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Bye Bye<br>
<br>
<st1:personname u2:st="on"><st1:PersonName w:st="on">Harrison Owen</st1:personname></st1:PersonName><br>
<st1:street u2:st="on"><st1:address u2:st="on"><st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address
w:st="on">7808 River Falls Drive</st1:address></st1:street></st1:address></st1:Street><br>
<st1:place u2:st="on"><st1:city u2:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City
w:st="on">Potomac</st1:city></st1:City>, <st1:state u2:st="on"><st1:State
w:st="on">Maryland</st1:state></st1:State> <st1:postalcode u2:st="on"><st1:PostalCode
w:st="on">20854</st1:postalcode></st1:place></st1:PostalCode></st1:place><br>
Phone 301-365-2093<br>
Skype hhowen<br>
Open Space Training <a href="http://www.openspaceworld.com/" target="_blank">www.openspaceworld.com</a><br>
Open Space Institute <a href="http://www.openspaceworld.org/" target="_blank">www.openspaceworld.org</a><br>
Personal website <a href="http://www.ho-image.com/" target="_blank">www.ho-image.com</a><br>
<st1:personname u2:st="on"><st1:PersonName w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:personname></st1:PersonName>:
To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the<br>
archives Visit: <a
href="http://www.listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html" target="_blank">www.listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html</a><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Riehle<br>
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Subject: Open Space Tech article on Wikipedia marked as spam, being readied<br>
for "speedy deletion"<br>
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Subject line says it all, article is here:<br>
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