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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=red face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p align=center style='text-align:center'><font size=2 color=red face=Arial><span
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Artur Silva<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, November 29, 2009
3:22 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: Open Space Tech
article on Wikipedia marked as spam, being readied for "speedy
deletion"</span></font></p>

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  <p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
  style='font-size:12.0pt'>I suppose that I am guilty for this Bye bye from
  Harrison:</span></font></p>
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  <p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
  style='font-size:12.0pt'>As you all can see in the OSLIST Archives, on <span
  id=MSGHDR-Date-PRE>Mon, 16 Jun 2008, I sent a message to the list with
  the subject "<span id=MSGHDR-Subject-PRE>OST becoming mainstream (was:
  Opening Space at Microsoft PDC)</span>", where I mencioned that the
  entry for OST in the Wikipedia was nonsense and should be corrected and
  suggested that Harrison could do that himself, which he did some days after
  that date.</span></span></font></p>
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  <p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
  style='font-size:12.0pt'>Later, the entry has been modified by others
  (but the old version is probably still in the wiki history). </span></font></p>
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  <p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
  style='font-size:12.0pt'>Still later, Wikipedia decided to become a more
  "Rigorous Enciclopedia" (in the limited sense many Universities
  give to "rigour" against "relevance").</span></font></p>
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  <p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
  style='font-size:12.0pt'>So, I understand he his tired of the Wikipedia
  discussion (but don't understand he is also tired of trying other tools
  that are real improvements - the NING being one of them...)</span></font></p>
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  <p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
  style='font-size:12.0pt'>So, if there is now a group interested in revising
  the wikipedia entries for OS, OST, etc., I suggest that they first locate
  that definition from Harrison, then explain in the "backdoor" wiki
  the reason to do that, and try to discuss and gain that discussion.</span></font></p>
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  <p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
  style='font-size:12.0pt'>Later it will be needed to check those entries
  regularly and repost the good entries, when they are changed by the many
  people in the world that think they are OST facilitators or even experts,
  because they have red "the book".</span></font></p>
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  <p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
  style='font-size:12.0pt'>Just my two Euro cents</span></font></p>
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  <p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
  style='font-size:12.0pt'>Artur  <br>
  <br>
  --- On <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sun, 11/29/09, Harrison Owen <i><span
  style='font-style:italic'><hhowen@verizon.net></span></i></span></b>
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  From: Harrison Owen <hhowen@verizon.net><br>
  Subject: Re: [OSLIST] Open Space Tech article on Wikipedia marked as spam,
  being readied for "speedy deletion"<br>
  To: OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
  Date: Sunday, November 29, 2009, 11:09 AM</span></font></p>
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  <p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
  style='font-size:12.0pt'>Bye Bye<br>
  <br>
  Harrison Owen<br>
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  -----Original Message-----<br>
  From: OSLIST [mailto:<a
  href="http://us.mc546.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU"
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  On Behalf Of Dirk<br>
  Riehle<br>
  Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 1:43 PM<br>
  To: <a
  href="http://us.mc546.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU"
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  Subject: Open Space Tech article on Wikipedia marked as spam, being readied<br>
  for "speedy deletion"<br>
  <br>
  Subject line says it all, article is here:<br>
  <br>
  <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Space_Technology" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Space_Technology</a><br>
  <br>
  Dirk<br>
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