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managers “would’nt it be better if we stayed out of the
conversations?”.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=red face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>Katia – the “never-fail”
response for such managerial questions is, “If you have no value to add,
you definitely should stay out.” Seems to catch them at an odd point.</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Katia<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Saturday, November 28, 2009
1:50 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: Power, hierarchy and OS</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.5pt'>Raffi, thank you for the reference to the OS Idea Book
(and Lisa for writing it!). I was just about to post a question about whether
such a document exists. I often get the question from managers
“would’nt it be better if we stayed out of the
conversations?”. I love it when they raise this point, because it allows
me to explore the subject. But often I only meet a design team / part of the
management, and having a document that can be used as a reference will
definitely help.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Consolas><span
style='font-size:10.5pt'>I’m off to Amazon now, to purchase the book!</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Consolas><span
style='font-size:10.5pt'>Katia</span></font></p>
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