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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Linda<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Thank you! <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>This is wonderful! The video and the report and, crucially, your
words below are inspiring. As you requested, I have posted this on the OS list
on your behalf. With your permission – I will post this on the iCoCo
forum as well – so that the network of community cohesion practitioners
can access all of it too. Would that be OK with you? Or if you wish – you
can join – it is open to all – and post it yourself....?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Thank you for affirming for me – what I knew to be true –
that OS would work fabulously in the domain of community cohesion. Although I
do note in your list of attendees there do not appear to be any ‘ordinary
citizens’ – in other words people who were not activists or
politicians or officers – but people with a concern (perhaps hitherto unexpressed
in public forum) about their neighbourhood and its cohesion etc. Or have I got
this wrong? Are you able to speculate on what might have happened had such
people being present? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>The reason I ask is I am wondering how open space might be used
not only to learn from experiences and build plans for the future (as it has
done in your case very well) from amongst the existing players – but how
it might also be used to actually build community cohesion itself... What do
you (or anyone else reading this) think? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>I loved the story of the tree planting in the report, by the
way.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Linda Mitchell
[mailto:lindamitchell@virgin.net] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> 27 November 2009 08:46<br>
<b>To:</b> Jon Harvey<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSLIST] Power, hierarchy and OS<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:navy'>Hi Jon, am replying directly to you as despite being on the
OS list for a couple of years for some reason I can’t post replies
directly, I think it’s something to do with how I use my 2
e mail addresses, one day will sort it out....but really wanted to respond
to this posting- maybe you could post this for me on the network <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Here in Leeds in the UK we did an open space day with 87 community
practitioners ( all shapes and sizes including the leader of the council - LSP
group on cohesion, faith groups, VCS and activists) to share, connect and
exchange info about what was going on in community cohesion work. It was
amazing </span><span lang=EN-US><a
href="http://www.leedsinitiative.org/harmonious/page.aspx?id=11726&ekmensel=cdb9b7c3_174_640_11726_1"><span
style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:navy'>http://www.leedsinitiative.org/harmonious/page.aspx?id=11726&ekmensel=cdb9b7c3_174_640_11726_1</span></a></span><span
lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:navy'>( read
the report here ) and link to you tube video </span><span
lang=EN-US><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdTkogSOeRM"><span
style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:navy'>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdTkogSOeRM</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";
color:navy'>There was lots of things we could have done better like better
convergence and harvesting of the things people were talking about, but
most people in the closing circle said they had <em><span style='font-family:
"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>never</span></em> experienced anything like this
ever in terms of making good connections across the city. I have some stories
about particular conversations that made my hair stand on end - people had
space and time to post really controversial stuff like - 'black people are not
welcome on white estates' discuss.....and discuss they did. I know of 3 -
4 new initiatives that arose as a result of the session and there might be
loads more we will never know. One of the biggest impacts of the
event was of people wanting to experience more open space as a way of working,
We are now working with 2 local neighborhoods who are "pilot cohesion
areas" whatever that means ....... this morning I’m going to
view a venue so that we can open space for front line workers in really
conflicted community setting<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";
color:navy'>I heartily agree that pre work with the client to get really clear
about the purpose of the event ( in ours we were simply looking for connections
) and the ability of the sponsor to give themselves over to the process and go
with the flow is really important. When I get frustrated with this
(because it is quite fearful for people higher up in the hierarchy).... I
just hold in mind the comments made in the closing circle about how
powerful it is ....and know that we will get there, so I have to hold their
fear for long enough for us to get there. People often say the same
things to me that person said in your group - we need to build a level playing
field. I think I disagree with this that we need to open up the playing field
and get out of the way ( actually maybe they are the same just a different
approach and maybe we need to do both ) .....the ones we least expect to come
forward come rushing in when they see they can ......and those that try to
dominate?.......well once space is open everyone just walks away....law of 2
feet!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";
color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";
color:navy'>I always see open space events as the tip of the iceberg, all the
work goes on <em><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>underneath</span></em>
the bit you see. My other thought is that the frame at the beginning of
the opening is also really important in giving permission ( if indeed it is
really needed I’m not sure it is ) to all to step up - a good
invitation that stimulates those who want to to come in is so powerful in
overcoming inequalities of power. In my experience once you open the
space - no one can get in the way of that happening </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Very happy to talk further and might look into joining you network</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Best Wishes Linda</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:navy'>From:
"Jon Harvey" <</span><a href="mailto:jon@jonharveyassociates.co.uk"><span
style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:navy'>jon@jonharveyassociates.co.uk</span></a><span
style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:navy'>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:navy'>To:
<</span><a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU"><span
style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:navy'>OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</span></a><span
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:navy'>Sent:
Thursday, November 26, 2009 7:49 PM</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:navy'>Subject:
[OSLIST] Power, hierarchy and OS</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:navy'>Hallo<br>
<br>
I went to a meeting of community cohesion practitioners today (UK) and had a<br>
really great time - lots of good ideas, research trails to chase and lovely<br>
people. Of course it would have been better to have used OS as the process<br>
of the day - which of course I suggested for the next meeting... <br>
<br>
But then we started a debate - with no time to explore it - as to whether OS<br>
is always applicable to meetings where there are people present with very<br>
different levels of power and authority. The presumption by one person was<br>
that hierarchy would get in the way of the flat structure of OS - such that<br>
the less powerful would not feel as empowered to have the conversations they<br>
wished and needed to etc... He was advocating (although I may well have this<br>
wrong) more structure & perhaps capacity building in adavnce to ensure a<br>
level playing field etc where everyone's voice would be heard.<br>
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I was left frustrated - as this is a topic that interests me as I have some<br>
sympathy for the point of view. Equally, I take the view that the law of<br>
mobility means that the even the least powerful have vote with their feet /<br>
wheels etc to move to other topics of conversation. And Open Space is what<br>
it says on the tin - it is open to all - and part of our job as facilitators<br>
is to make this abundantly clear.<br>
<br>
So I promised to start a debate here on the OSLIST to see what others may<br>
think. I have also just posted a link to here for people from the Community<br>
Cohesion network (on the forum part of their website) so we may get some new<br>
members too.. (if you want to check out the host organisation - here is the<br>
link:<br>
</span><a
href="http://practitioners.cohesioninstitute.org.uk/PractitionersNetwork/About"><span
style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:navy'>http://practitioners.cohesioninstitute.org.uk/PractitionersNetwork/About</span></a><span
style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:navy'> all<br>
can join)<br>
<br>
So to start the ball rolling:<br>
<br>
1) Do less powerful people get less (or more) from Open Space?<br>
2) How does hierarchy interact with the OS process - if at all?<br>
3) Are less powerful people less inclined to go with / show their passion<br>
and nominate topics for discussion - if so - what do you do about that?<br>
4) If the subject is all about variable power (and in community cohesion it<br>
often is...) - does that make OS more or less applicable?<br>
5) Am I over complicating all this?!<br>
<br>
I look forward to your thoughts.<br>
<br>
Many thanks<br>
<br>
Very best wishes<br>
<br>
Jon<br>
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