great work, suzanne! i wish i had energy to join you in this. i hope others will join you. wikipedia is just the sort of open community mainstream platform that kaliya is talking about, so it's a good test for our community. do we care enough to edit things together as a community? it's a lot of work and we've not really managed such things in the past. lots of individual contributing, but not so much group shaping of documents and spaces.<br>
<br>one thing i will offer, as a sort of working space is the open, public wiki at openspaceworld.NET. if you and anyone else wanted to work on your document jointly and publicly, but outside of the glare of wikipedia, you could certainly do it at <a href="http://openspaceworld.net">openspaceworld.net</a>. it would make an excellent demonstration for the community and the world, as well. a number of other groups are already doing the same there, mostly on short term projects and events.<br>
<br>when you get to the wiki site, just click the HELP link and you'll find a page with passwords and instructions. the version of wiki we're using there is very close to the original wiki. it's very simple, not a lot of bells and whistles, but very well suited to the sort of work you're inviting people to do.<br>
<br>let me know if you have any trouble gettign started. many thanks for whatever comes of this invitation to wiki together!<br><br>m<br clear="all"> <br>--<br><br>Michael Herman<br>Michael Herman Associates<br><br><a href="http://www.michaelherman.com">http://www.michaelherman.com</a><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Comic Sans MS"; color: black;">What a day! Lisa, Arthur, Shufang…amazing the places
this has been taking us in the on-going world-wide conversation about oslist
and ning. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Comic Sans MS"; color: black;">On another matter, Michael Herman today appealed to us for help on
what he called “tremendous editing” work required on the
Wikipedia Open Space description. I went to the Wiki website to see what was
there. I cringed when I saw the alerts at the top of the page: “reads
like an advertisement”; “blatant advertising” could lead to “speedy
deletion”; “insufficient context”; “missing citations
and footnotes” and requires “clean-up to meet Wikipedia standards”.
I then started to dig deeper through pages and pages to understand the Wikipedia
standards, guidelines and criteria. Part of me felt that if I was to help
on this (along with other OS folks hopefully?), I’d have to
write and conform to a structure of “predictability”, “control”,
“data”, “verifiability” and “neutral point of
view” that could miss the point of what Open Space is all about. The Wikipedia
focus seems to be much more on the objective than the subjective. Out of
curiosity, I checked other modalities like Appreciative Inquiry and Future
Search and saw some of the same alert messages there too. I then went to Lean
Manufacturing, and Six Sigma – no alerts! Interesting.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Comic Sans MS"; color: black;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Comic Sans MS"; color: black;">Somehow it felt that if I was tackling this (with others?), it
would be like describing Chinese medicine on the basis of evidence-based
Western medicine? I now understand what Michael said when he talked about the “tremendous”
editing not because what’s there was poorly done but because of their rigorous
(and limiting?) criteria. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Comic Sans MS"; color: black;">Or… perhaps there’s another way of looking at it.
Maybe the time has come for a group of folks out there to take up the <b><i>mainstream</i></b>
Wikipedia challenge to further document this experiential “experiment”
that Harrison challenges us on in his latest book, Wave Rider. Who knows where
it could lead? Perhaps this documentation already exists and we could
draw from it? It appears there would be lots of “evidence” from the
nearly 25 years, in 140+ countries, in (hundreds of thousands?) or (thousands
and thousands?) of situations, stories, learnings, etc. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Comic Sans MS"; color: black;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Comic Sans MS"; color: black;">With some trepidation, I’m putting this out there to the OS universe.
Certainly with my still limited experience in Open Space, don’t think this
could be a solo initiative on my part. That being said, as we typically do in
Open Space, I’d like to post a topic “Wikipedia and Open Space”.
Anyone want to join? Maybe we’ll set up a room on the new Ning.
My interest is that I feel we are at a tipping point in the world with Open
Space based on the multiple system breakdowns everywhere. Lots of
opportunity for transformation and making a meaningful difference. Anyone
want to join? Suzanne</span></p>
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[mailto:<a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" target="_blank">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael Herman<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 18, 2009 3:07 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" target="_blank">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: The new Ning community - some central questions</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;">suzanne, what i'm suggesting
(asking, really) is that the oslist (all of us, myself included, who won't be,
for the moment anyway, actively ninging) could receive a daily digest of
postings that happen at ning. if this was workable, ning-ers would get
full functionality of that space and go nuts with it. and we
only-oslist-ers could get a single daily email, so we could listen in on what's
developing. <br>
<br>
this seems to serve many needs and interests, without drawing any hard
lines. it keeps everyone together, expanding without dividing.
inviting without imposing. <br>
<br>
the big question is... what sort of output could be generated from ning,
directed to a (gmail?) account, or even an <a href="http://openspaceworld.org" target="_blank">openspaceworld.org</a>
account, that would simply forward it to the oslist for us. <br>
<br>
hope this clarifies, suzanne. <br>
<br>
and to holger, or lisa or artur or anybody else already on planet ning... will
they let you pump out some sort of daily email of what's happening there?<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Suzanne Daigle <<a href="mailto:sdaigle4@gmail.com" target="_blank">sdaigle4@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;">Michael, For me, for now the
oslist is the place that I still want to call "home". It feels
just right for its purpose -- a place to gain insights and share
happenings from a global community in the moment. Not too many
emails or at least I can easily skip and delete it off my blackberry knowing
it's waiting for me in my gmail inbox. <br>
<br>
The new "ning" space of the Open Space community, of the Unleashing
Leadership event in Canada last week and the Taiwan OS event before
that are the places that I will want to visit occasionally to engage in more
intimate conversations on a specific topic perhaps, to see photos, to say hi to
people I know. In time, I may feel differently. <br>
<br>
As you describe it below, is there a risk that I'd get tons more emails via os
list by adding Ning alerts? Or is what you describe below a decision that
I can choose to make on my own: keep oslist separate or combine it myself
with Ning? <br>
<br>
Suzanne</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Michael Herman <<a href="mailto:michael@michaelherman.com" target="_blank">michael@michaelherman.com</a>>
wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">i am amazed and delighted to hear that ning has so many
signing on so quickly. earlier this morning i have added a link to the
ning site from the homepage of <a href="http://openspaceworld.org" target="_blank">openspaceworld.org</a>. when the announcement came out
yesterday, i blogged it at osw as well, but forgot to make the homepage link.<br>
<br>
so to your question about oslist vs. ning discussion platform, holger... here
is how it might be accomplished... simply make one list a member of the
other. this does require making one primary to the other, because without
this decision the work around will cause permanently circular bouncing
replies. maybe 'primary' isn't quite right. it's really a question
of where the action will be and where the action will be also reported. <br>
<br>
for instance, set up a gmail account that receives all the ning activity and
forwards it to the oslist, as a member of the list. oslist members would
then be able to see all of the postings, probably best in some sort of digest
form, at the new ning space. so you could use the ning space, but report
everything through gmail back to the list. this would, in effect, create
a running invitation to the ning group.<br>
<br>
i'm not familiar with the mechanics of the ning platform, but obviously there
is more there than email list. it seems impractical to not use the ning
discussion tools in concert with whatever other tools are there. you
could use the same forwarding membership mechanism to report everything
happening on oslist to the ning group(s), but i think that doesn't work as
well. it doesn't make sense for oslist to be continually dangling that
invitation into the ning community. the direction of flow seems to be
from oslist to ning, opening into a bigger, fuller-featured space. google
wave might very well be the next opening after that, but ning is happening
right now. <br>
<br>
so the key point seems to be that we can move into new spaces without
destroying or abandoning the old things that have served us so well, so
far. i will come back to this in the other thread, perhaps yet
today. but for now, i'd propose one way forward is to use all of ning and
make oslist a member so that the list collectively can see what is
happening. running this through a separate <a href="mailto:osw-ning@gmail.com" target="_blank">osw-ning@gmail.com</a> email
address would make ning alerts easy to spot (to read or ignore) and a
daily digest function seems essential so as not to blow up the oslist.<br>
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m<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Wendy Farmer-O'Neil <<a href="mailto:wendy@xe.net" target="_blank">wendy@xe.net</a>> wrote:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hi friends,<br>
I'm just starting to explore and learn Google Wave. I think there are a
few of you out there a bit ahead of me on the curve for that. Isn't
integration of these various info streams what it is designed to do? Once
it's out of beta, won't those who choose to use it be able to pull OSList,
facebook, twitter, ning, etc streams into one OS wave?<br>
<br>
I support open source solutions in parallel with commercial solutions, and also
recognize that they take not only passion, but money, time, and expertise as
forms of responsibility in order to realize them. If this conversation
results in a group forming to create that for our community I will gladly
support it with my participation as that is the only form of responsibility i
currently have available to contribute.<br>
<br>
Many communities are having this conversation. The explosion of social
media has created tremendous diversity and the potential that accompanies that.
The conversations over which tool, which platform, etc are raging all
over the place. What I see beginning to emerge is a recognition of the
new need to help users make the most of this diversity by creating tools that
allow for the integration and management of these diverse information flows
rather than the monopolization and control of them.<br>
<br>
What has always mattered most to me about OSList and why i continue to read and
contribute as i can, is that it continues to be the most accessible platform
for a global audience. There are many out there who still don't have the
kind of connectivity and bandwidth that most of the new tools require. It
matters to me that some of the most vital conversations about OS happen in a
forum that the lowest tech amongst us can access. (And there are a number
of us out here who keep our own archival copies of everything that happens
here. So if the main archive was suddenly shut down, i'm sure it wouldn't
take us very long to stitch together a new one elsewhere.) I am also
aware of the fact that this conversation happens in English and of the colonial
history and privilege of that. So i support the emergence of an online
space where we can see conversations happening in other languages
simultaneously. The Ning platform appears to be doing that at this time,
so i feel glad in my heart to see that.<br>
<br>
And please, while we have this conversation, would we keep our respect and care
for each other uppermost. I try to always envision us sitting in a circle
together in an OS space having these conversations. To hold each precious
presence with care matters to me. Whether i agree with you or not, like
you or not, have been hurt or harmed by you or not, is irrelevant. I
still hold each of you essential to our community. I support the call for
an end to personal attacks and a return to responsibly stated personal
contributions. Email can be a hard medium for passionate conversation. It's
easy to be misunderstood and misunderstand.<br>
<br>
Love to all,<br>
Wendy</p>
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On 18-Nov-09, at 1:54 AM, Holger Nauheimer (Change Facilitation) wrote:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;">It is really fascinating to see
how quick the new Ning group is growing<br>
(<a href="http://openspaceworld.ning.com/" target="_blank">http://openspaceworld.ning.com/</a>).
I predict that in 2 weeks, we will have<br>
like 200-300 members, and growing. In particular I like that we will have<br>
country specific subgroups, and that might be the main focus of the Ning<br>
group in the future. But it might also be that it will become the major<br>
platform for our community.<br>
<br>
However, the Ning group raises a central question: in case, the group will<br>
convert into a major network platform for the OS community, what will happen<br>
with the OS Mailing List?<br>
<br>
As I have posted on the Ning today, I vote for maintaining this Listserv for<br>
quite a while, and continuing to use this as the main discussion forum.<br>
People got used to it, and in my experience, the OS folks are among the most<br>
change resistant people that I have met in my life.<br>
<br>
In order not to divide the stream of discussion, I am in favour not to have<br>
a discussion feature at the Ning platform (or, only for the subgroups).<br>
Otherwise, people will be quite confused on where to post.<br>
<br>
I hope that in future all the national / language specific groups will move<br>
to the Ning platform (however, in the German community there is some strong<br>
resistance to that).<br>
<br>
What I would love to see is an integration of this list with the Ning<br>
platform. The ideal would be that one can post from here and it appears in<br>
the Ning platform and the other way round. I am pretty sure that this is<br>
technically feasible but I have no idea how. It seems that the Listserv does<br>
not support RSS feeds (and I am not sure whether RSS feeds are the solution,<br>
probably not).<br>
<br>
If we would agree that integration is a good step, I would do some further<br>
research and also engage a developer to help us out. Ideas?<br>
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