For what it is worth, I experience Kaliya's comments as powerful, even courageous efforts to open space.<br><br>For what it is worth, I experience Michael's comments as name-calling, denigrating, invalidating, dishonoring. I find myself wishing he would make less attack statements and more 'I' statements, telling us what he thinks and feels without attacking others shared thoughts and feelings.<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Karen Sella <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:karen@luminacoaching.com">karen@luminacoaching.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
For what it's worth, I experienced all the comments from Michael and others<br>
as adding useful perspectives to the conversation--not invalidating or<br>
dishonoring... just sharing yet another perspective.<br>
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Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 9:10 AM<br>
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Subject: [OSLIST] re honouring each other<br>
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Hi Everyone,<br>
I have been following this community for a while and will soon start<br>
sharing info. Many thanks for all the enlivening info. I am grateful.<br>
I feel the need to speak in response to Michael's comments re Kaliya's<br>
thoughts.<br>
OST is about staying open and positive and welcoming of all perspectives<br>
and ideas, as I experience it. Critiquing and judging and saying "no" to<br>
ideas stops the new, constantly self-emerging outflowing of ideas that is<br>
creating a continual shared meaning among us all that excites me to no<br>
end.<br>
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All of Kaliya's ideas are valid.<br>
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Michael, may I suggest you own your own ideas more powerfully by using<br>
phrases like "in my opinion" or using the pronoun "I" rather than "you"<br>
when you share your own ideas.<br>
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...and on with the OST dance,<br>
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Sincerely,<br>
Kathie Wallace<br>
Vancouver, BC, Canada<br>
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