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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>With 20/20 hindsight, I wonder if the
question, “</span></font>What do we need to do to respect each other and
get along?” is/was the right question. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#403152" face=Candara><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>As you say, Rose, it appears that students know (at a
cognitive level) what to do, but they don’t do it. Which might point to a
much deeper psycho/systemic/social set of forces (part of which <st1:place
w:st="on">Harrison</st1:place> alludes to). I really feel for these kids –
it’s feels like they are trapped in a nightmare – like one of those
dreams one can have, where you can see it all unfolding and you feel incapable
to do anything about it. Of course that is not an ‘escape’
from everyone ultimately accepting their share of responsibility, but it
suggests some broader questions to me about what kind of personal ‘way of
being’ might be nurtured, and what kind of environment might be imagined
and co-created. I don’t want to sound trite. It sounds very challenging.
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#403152" face=Candara><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>What might that broader systemic convening question be?
When it doubt…open more space. Think creatively about who might make
a contribution and specifically invite them. Was anyone and everyone able to
come? I am recalling Jamie Oliver’s work in the <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">UK</st1:place></st1:country-region> where they
discovered a direct link between the food provided in the canteen and behaviour
in the classroom. That’s another example of looking at the whole system. Don’t
give up hope. Keep the conversations alive.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#403152" face=Candara><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>Also, some places have benefitted from capacity
building in non-violence training (<st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Rosenberg</st1:place></st1:City>
has done some great stuff on this).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt'>Michael Wood</span></font><font size=2 color=navy
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Harrison Owen<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, 5 November 2009
10:19 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: Bullying and OST</span></font><font
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=red face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>Rose – Sounds like
and interesting Go. For me OS is very much like the Rorschach Test – What
you see is what you got, and it sounds like the teachers and Principal
confirmed that. Not terribly far from a prison camp which is where many schools
are. God forbid that the inmates should become too restless and then get out of
control! So of course, the forces of reason and right will have to intervene
(which they did) – thereby substantiating their prior convictions that
these “students” were pretty much wild savages requiring a strong
hand. Was there an alternative? Probably and it wouldn’t have been
pretty, but in my experience it usually (always) works. Open more Space and
treat the students like responsible human beings. Expect the best and you might
get there. I have worked with fighting street gangs, and that was always my
approach. It did get a little exciting, but nobody ever died. In fact, very
useful things always took place. Simple fact of the matter is that folks will
live <b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>down</span></i></b>
to our expectations. That way they can avoid responsibility for themselves and
their actions. It is all OUR fault! Then we can feel guilty and do more of what
we have always done (control, heavy hand, etc) and predictably get more of what
we have always gotten which then justifies more of the same – and so on
ad infinitum. Or something. </span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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[mailto:<st1:PersonName w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Rose Tassone<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, November 04, 2009
6:51 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Bullying and OST</span></font><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color="#403152"
face=Candara><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Hello everyone. I’m wishing
to share my experience of facilitating OST for the first time. It was held in a
primary school in <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Perth</st1:City>, <st1:State
w:st="on">Western Australia</st1:State></st1:place>. Surveys administered by
the principal earlier in the year had parents and students report that they
were most concerned about bullying at this school. The principal identified the
question “What do we need to do to respect each other and get along?’
73 students, ages 8 to 12, 6 educators and 3 parents accepted the invitation.</span></font><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color="#403152"
face=Candara><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>This is what I observed during the
OS event: A student was pushed out of her group when she went to the breakout
space even though she was the one who had initiated the topic; students were
physically fighting, pushing each other and name calling; students who were
being butterflies chose to run around, disrupt and tease those in the groups
even though there was a drawing activity available to them; the groups tended
to compete with each other on how many pages they could fill with lists of dos
and don’ts of how to treat each other. The energy of the morning
was one of palpable violence and two students were suspended. Teachers
who had been briefed by the principal to allow chaos at the event, so that
children could self organise, finally had to intervene because of duty of care
issues.</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color="#403152"
face=Candara><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Looking through the Book of
Proceedings the students appear to have all the knowledge of how to respect
each other and get along, though their behaviour during the event did not
depict this. At the debriefing the principal mentioned that the behaviours that
were shown are what normally occur every day in the schoolyard as they self
organise around individual survival. So it appears that the proverbial ‘Lucy’
is more than likely a 10 year old bully!</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color="#403152"
face=Candara><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>I would really appreciate any
comments and/or thoughts.</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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