<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi Rose (Hi everyone - yes, I'm new to this list and it's been AGES since I was actually in an OS.) <div><br></div><div>I lay in bed thinking about your question, not having read anyone's responses yet. I note that you say the butterflies were disruptive "even though a drawing activity was available to them". Eh, what? I wonder how truly open the space was to Harrison's point about unconscious expectations. I too wondered if the question was the right one for these children. Hindsight being 20/20 maybe a learning is to engage a smaller group of the intended participants in framing the question? </div><div><br></div><div>What I wanted to add to the conversation, and I'll be interested in everyone's thoughts about this, is that the largest group in the OS was children. Young people whose thinking is concrete operations, at least according to Piaget. Without looking it up I remember that key characteristic of Concrete Operations is the rigidity about how games are to be played. The rules are inviolate. It is only in Abstract Reasoning - teen years - that the person is able to understand that a game are the rules agreed to by those playing. WIth such a large population of children the abstract spirit of self-organizing may not have been the predominant spirit. Now, mind you, I'm not saying that children can't enjoy and participate in OS, I'm sure they can. I suspect that they need more of a model about how- concretely watching adults. It might have been that the balance was off. What is the experience of others on this list? </div><div><br></div><div>Thanks, </div><div><br></div><div><br><div> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; 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"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Lucida Calligraphy'; font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Lucida Calligraphy'; font-style: italic; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Lucida Calligraphy'; font-style: italic; ">802.579.5975 (cell)</span></span></span></i></font></div></span></span></span></span></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><br></div></div></span></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> </div><br><div><div>On Nov 4, 2009, at 9:44 PM, Anglican Chaplain wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div lang="EN-AU" link="blue" vlink="purple"><o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PostalCode"><o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="country-region"><o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="State"><o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="City"><o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="Street"><o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place"><o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="address"><o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PersonName"><div class="Section1"><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Candara; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; color: rgb(64, 49, 82); "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; ">With 20/20 hindsight, I wonder if the question, “</span></font>What do we need to do to respect each other and get along?” is/was the right question.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Candara; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; color: rgb(64, 49, 82); "><font size="2" color="#403152" face="Candara"><span style="font-size: 11pt; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Candara; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; color: rgb(64, 49, 82); "><font size="2" color="#403152" face="Candara"><span style="font-size: 11pt; ">As you say, Rose, it appears that students know (at a cognitive level) what to do, but they don’t do it. Which might point to a much deeper psycho/systemic/social set of forces (part of which<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><st1:place w:st="on">Harrison</st1:place><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>alludes to). I really feel for these kids – it’s feels like they are trapped in a nightmare – like one of those dreams one can have, where you can see it all unfolding and you feel incapable to do anything about it. Of course that is not an ‘escape’ from everyone ultimately accepting their share of responsibility, but it suggests some broader questions to me about what kind of personal ‘way of being’ might be nurtured, and what kind of environment might be imagined and co-created. I don’t want to sound trite. It sounds very challenging. <o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Candara; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; color: rgb(64, 49, 82); "><font size="2" color="#403152" face="Candara"><span style="font-size: 11pt; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Candara; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; color: rgb(64, 49, 82); "><font size="2" color="#403152" face="Candara"><span style="font-size: 11pt; ">What might that broader systemic convening question be? When it doubt…open more space. Think creatively about who might make a contribution and specifically invite them. Was anyone and everyone able to come? I am recalling Jamie Oliver’s work in the<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">UK</st1:place></st1:country-region><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>where they discovered a direct link between the food provided in the canteen and behaviour in the classroom. That’s another example of looking at the whole system. Don’t give up hope. Keep the conversations alive.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Candara; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; color: rgb(64, 49, 82); "><font size="2" color="#403152" face="Candara"><span style="font-size: 11pt; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Candara; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; color: rgb(64, 49, 82); "><font size="2" color="#403152" face="Candara"><span style="font-size: 11pt; ">Also, some places have benefitted from capacity building in non-violence training (<st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Rosenberg</st1:place></st1:city><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>has done some great stuff on this).<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Candara; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; color: rgb(64, 49, 82); "><font size="2" color="#403152" face="Candara"><span style="font-size: 11pt; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Candara; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; color: rgb(64, 49, 82); "><font size="2" color="#403152" face="Candara"><span style="font-size: 11pt; ">Michael Wood</span></font><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; "><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Candara; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; color: rgb(64, 49, 82); "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Candara; color: rgb(64, 49, 82); text-align: center; "><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; color: windowtext; "><hr size="2" width="100%" align="center" tabindex="-1"></span></font></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Candara; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; color: rgb(64, 49, 82); "><b><font size="2" color="black" face="Tahoma"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: windowtext; font-weight: bold; ">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" color="black" face="Tahoma"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: windowtext; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><st1:personname w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:personname><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[mailto:<st1:personname w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:personname>@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b>Harrison Owen<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Sent:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, 5 November 2009 10:19 AM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">To:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><st1:personname w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:personname>@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Subject:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: Bullying and OST</span></font><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; color: windowtext; "><o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Candara; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; color: rgb(64, 49, 82); "><font size="2" color="#403152" face="Candara"><span style="font-size: 11pt; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Candara; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; color: rgb(64, 49, 82); "><font size="3" color="red" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: red; ">Rose – Sounds like and interesting Go. For me OS is very much like the Rorschach Test – What you see is what you got, and it sounds like the teachers and Principal confirmed that. Not terribly far from a prison camp which is where many schools are. God forbid that the inmates should become too restless and then get out of control! So of course, the forces of reason and right will have to intervene (which they did) – thereby substantiating their prior convictions that these “students” were pretty much wild savages requiring a strong hand. Was there an alternative? Probably and it wouldn’t have been pretty, but in my experience it usually (always) works. Open more Space and treat the students like responsible human beings. Expect the best and you might get there. I have worked with fighting street gangs, and that was always my approach. It did get a little exciting, but nobody ever died. In fact, very useful things always took place. Simple fact of the matter is that folks will live<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b><i><span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic; ">down</span></i></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>to our expectations. That way they can avoid responsibility for themselves and their actions. It is all OUR fault! Then we can feel guilty and do more of what we have always done (control, heavy hand, etc) and predictably get more of what we have always gotten which then justifies more of the same – and so on ad infinitum. 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"> </span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Candara; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; color: rgb(64, 49, 82); "><font size="2" color="black" face="Tahoma"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: windowtext; ">-----Original Message-----<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">From:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><st1:personname w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:personname><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[mailto:<st1:personname w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:personname>@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b>Rose Tassone<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Sent:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, November 04, 2009 6:51 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">To:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><st1:personname w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:personname>@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Subject:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Bullying and OST</span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Candara; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; color: rgb(64, 49, 82); "><font size="2" color="#403152" face="Candara"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; "> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Candara; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; color: rgb(64, 49, 82); "><font size="2" color="#403152" face="Candara"><span style="font-size: 11pt; "> </span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Candara; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; color: rgb(64, 49, 82); "><font size="2" color="#403152" face="Candara"><span style="font-size: 11pt; ">Hello everyone. I’m wishing to share my experience of facilitating OST for the first time. It was held in a primary school in<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:city w:st="on">Perth</st1:city>,<st1:state w:st="on">Western Australia</st1:state></st1:place>. Surveys administered by the principal earlier in the year had parents and students report that they were most concerned about bullying at this school. The principal identified the question “What do we need to do to respect each other and get along?’ 73 students, ages 8 to 12, 6 educators and 3 parents accepted the invitation.</span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Candara; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; color: rgb(64, 49, 82); "><font size="2" color="#403152" face="Candara"><span style="font-size: 11pt; "> </span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Candara; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; color: rgb(64, 49, 82); "><font size="2" color="#403152" face="Candara"><span style="font-size: 11pt; ">This is what I observed during the OS event: A student was pushed out of her group when she went to the breakout space even though she was the one who had initiated the topic; students were physically fighting, pushing each other and name calling; students who were being butterflies chose to run around, disrupt and tease those in the groups even though there was a drawing activity available to them; the groups tended to compete with each other on how many pages they could fill with lists of dos and don’ts of how to treat each other. The energy of the morning was one of palpable violence and two students were suspended. Teachers who had been briefed by the principal to allow chaos at the event, so that children could self organise, finally had to intervene because of duty of care issues.</span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Candara; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; color: rgb(64, 49, 82); "><font size="2" color="#403152" face="Candara"><span style="font-size: 11pt; "> </span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Candara; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; color: rgb(64, 49, 82); "><font size="2" color="#403152" face="Candara"><span style="font-size: 11pt; ">Looking through the Book of Proceedings the students appear to have all the knowledge of how to respect each other and get along, though their behaviour during the event did not depict this. At the debriefing the principal mentioned that the behaviours that were shown are what normally occur every day in the schoolyard as they self organise around individual survival. So it appears that the proverbial ‘Lucy’ is more than likely a 10 year old bully!</span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Candara; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; color: rgb(64, 49, 82); "><font size="2" color="#403152" face="Candara"><span style="font-size: 11pt; "> </span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Candara; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; color: rgb(64, 49, 82); "><font size="2" color="#403152" face="Candara"><span style="font-size: 11pt; ">I would really appreciate any comments and/or thoughts.</span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Candara; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; color: rgb(64, 49, 82); "><font size="2" color="#403152" face="Candara"><span style="font-size: 11pt; "> </span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Candara; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; color: rgb(64, 49, 82); "><font size="2" color="#403152" face="Candara"><span style="font-size: 11pt; ">Kindest regards</span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Candara; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; color: rgb(64, 49, 82); "><font size="2" color="#403152" face="Candara"><span style="font-size: 11pt; ">Rose Tassone</span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Candara; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; color: rgb(64, 49, 82); "><font size="2" color="#403152" face="Candara"><span style="font-size: 11pt; "> </span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 36pt; 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