<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">John-<div><br></div><div>I want to build on what you've said. </div><div><br></div><div>You asked who are the people doing the inviting? You reminded me of how key invitation is. The quality of invitation that matters. Are the people who are hosting in conversation with the people they are inviting? Are the inviters making the invitation from their own place of passion and commitment? Is the invitation being sent in a welcoming way, something that communicates with more than just words? Hopefully you get the drift.</div><div><br></div><div>In that context, to me, decisions become part of creating a welcoming space. If it is done as a bribe, it isn't useful. If done as good hosts, then go for it.</div><div><br></div><div>my two cents,</div><div>Peggy</div><div><br></div><div>P.S. To Justin's question on work related OS's outside of work hours. I have done a few that started during work hours and continued into the weekend. Sometimes it is because of schedules for workers who can't participate otherwise. Some organizations have paid overtime as an acknowledgement of the request to come during personal time. (Not as a bribe but out of respect.)</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div apple-content-edited="true"> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>______________________________</div><div>Peggy Holman</div><div>The Open Circle Company</div><div>15347 SE 49th Place</div><div>Bellevue, WA 98006</div><div>425-746-6274</div><div><a href="http://www.opencirclecompany.com">www.opencirclecompany.com</a></div><div><a href="http://www.journalismthatmatters.org">www.journalismthatmatters.org</a></div><div><div> </div><div>For the new edition of The Change Handbook, go to: <br><a href="http://www.bkconnection.com/ChangeHandbook">www.bkconnection.com/ChangeHandbook</a> <br> <br>"An angel told me that the only way to step into the fire and not get burnt, is to become <br>the fire".<br> -- Drew Dellinger</div></div><div><br></div></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> </div><br><div><div>On Aug 26, 2009, at 2:57 PM, John Engle wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Great question, David. I agree with Doug, Lisa and Harrison. Offering things that look like incentives or rewards doesn't seem like a good idea.<div><br></div><div>But, a couple questions do come to mind. Who are the people doing the inviting? As the hosts, is there a particular ambiance that you want to create? I can imagine a situation where hosts, out of a genuine appreciation for folks coming, graciously provide some food or drink. We all know what a hit food and drink is. </div><div><br></div><div>So, then my question is, if you decide to provide something in this spirit, do you want to be transparent and communicate this in the letter of invitation? </div><div><br></div><div>Perhaps i've complicated things. We're constantly dealing with questions like this in Haiti. Again, I completely agree with not offering things that look like incentives or rewards for coming.</div><div><br></div><div>What do others think?</div><div><br></div><div>John</div><div><br></div><div><div apple-content-edited="true"> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; "><div>________________________________</div><div><br></div><div>John Engle</div><div>Co-Director</div><div>Haiti Partners</div><div>Tel. US: 772-539-8521 </div><div>Haiti: <span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; "> 011-509-3461-3067</span></div><div><a href="http://www.haitipartners.org">www.haitipartners.org</a></div><div><br></div></span></div></div></span> </div><br><div><div>On Aug 26, 2009, at 5:16 PM, Lisa Heft wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Ah, David - I think you answered yourself...<div>Lisa</div><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10px; ">My univ is considering using Open Space for strategic planning. The event probably will need to be held at a time when faculty are not “officially” on campus – before a term, during a term break, or after a term. The question has come up about offering an incentive (e.g., nice meal, book purchase, door prizes) to encourage faculty participation. A part of me wonders if bribing people to attend (or rewarding them depending on your perspective) goes against the grain of simply inviting faculty and staff to bring their passion to the event because they care? I would greatly appreciate hearing what folks on the listserv think. Thank you. David Cox</span></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#1F497D" face="Helvetica" size="2"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10px;"><br></span></font></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#1F497D" face="Helvetica" size="2"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10px;"><br></span></font></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#1F497D" face="Helvetica" size="2"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10px;"><br></span></font></blockquote><div><div apple-content-edited="true"> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; 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