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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Having only done <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>one event (</span></b>very recently<b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>)</span></b> and that was for 40 people I do not have
the wealth of experience to share as some have here. However my experience of
‘the grid’ was as so………..</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I did not do a grid as such- I put stickers
with approx times. I however did explain in the opening that the times were
only a starter and that the group was free to do with this what they wanted. I
did give the approx total amount of ‘time’ they had ….and
then left it up to them</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The wall became an instant
‘mess’ which stayed like that for most of the first day and became
totally ordered the next day……… it reflected how this
organisation approaches and works together</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Something that the group self reflected
on………….</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>It is my sense of things that the more we
order….the more we take away from the process……..however this
can be very uncomfortable for us(facilitator).</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I remember clearly the feeling I had when
I first saw ‘the mess’ !! :)</span></font></p>
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OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <b><span style='font-weight:
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, 5 August 2009
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: Why is a grid
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<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>I knew we would lure Michael Pannwitz into this
conversation </span></font><font face=Wingdings><span lang=EN-US
style='font-family:Wingdings'>J</span></font><span lang=EN-US> Indeed it is an
old and rich conversation. And somewhere in there should be told (retold) the
tale of the 2108 German Psychiatrists. Michael alludes to it, but the real fun
(for me) happened when the group totally blew away our (Michael’s and
mine) projections for number of issues. We had guessed 150 and felt that was
probably large, and therefore safe. How wrong we were. If I read Michael
correctly, we finally ended up with 253 issues. Needless to say our plans and
expectations were stretched. But everything worked just marvelously.</span></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>But the underlying issue for me here is not about
orderly process and methodology but rather the essential conditions for really
juicy and creative engagements – which in my experience are always messy.
When you actually know what you are doing, you can afford to put things in
pre-defined boxes. They won’t always fit, and indeed usually don’t
– but it at least seems like everything is in order. On the other hand,
when you are out on the edges of things – that predetermined order simply
goes to hell. And I think that is a very good thing! The trick is to fabricate
a container that is so flexible that it can deal with just about anything. I
think we have learned to do a pretty good job of that – but it is not
about grids or no grids. The real secret, as I think about it, is that the
group becomes its own container and we are the encouragers. Or something</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt'>-----Original Message-----<br>
From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of Michael M
Pannwitz<br>
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 11:01 AM<br>
To: OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
Subject: Re: Why is a grid sometimes useful?</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Dear Fabian,</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>a "grid" is always useful.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Regardless of how the bulletin board is set up (an
empty wall, a highly </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>structured grid with spaces measured out so an issue
poster will neatly </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>fit into it, etc.)a "grid" will emerge, more
or less selforganized.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>There may be no bulletin board in the traditional
sense in situations </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>where people cannot read or write (John Engle has
reported on this), </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>issue bearers stand at a wall announcing their issue
and people will </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>then join them if thats their thing, too.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Ok, is that a grid?</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>When you have 2000+ people and 3 beginning times and
253 issues come up </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>some folks find it easier to have about a third (appr.
80) posted for </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>each of the three beginning times...others surf,
others dont care about </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>the issues but look around for "attractive"
groups.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>So, pretty regardless of the griddiness of a bulletin
board people will </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>do what they think is meaningful and productive for
them.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>In the evolution of my own practice (I can nicely see
it in the photos </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>that were taken at many events) I started out with a
highly structured grid</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>1. there were rectangular spaces (just big enough for
each issue poster) </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>created with masking tape and the times given with
starting time and </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>ending time of the session and little rolls of masking
tape placed into </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>the rectangular spaces so you could walk up and stick
your poster into </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>the neat rectangular</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>2. the rectangular spaces disappeared, just the times
were given, </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>seperated with vertical strips of masking tape</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>3. postits (a separate color for each time with the
room symbol and the </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>starting time written on them) were introduced</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>4. as "walls" were frequently displaced by
pinwalls, there was a </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>separate pinwall or two pinwalls for each time</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>5. only beginning times for sessions were supplied
(after all, the </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>groups took as little or as much time as needed)</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>6. double sized postits color coordinated with the
postits people were </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>asked to stick onto their issue posters were used as
the only </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>orientation on the bulletin board or at each pinwall</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Now, all the steps of reducing, expanding, using
different types of </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Bulletin Boards etc. did, as far as I could tell, not
substantially </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>influence the unfolding of selforganisation in events
I have been part </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>of. And from what I have read in the other posts, the
way Bulletin </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Boards and grids are being used is also a question of
personal style, </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>approach.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>The main thing is that participant selforganize their
own agenda, </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>whatever it looks like, its their agenda, their
structure, their grid, </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>their order, their chaos.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>To this, I give a lot of attention:</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>-I never interfere in the way people work with the
bulletin board, grid, </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>market phase (usually, for training purposes, I have
one or even two of </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>my team stand near the bulletin board and never ever
do anything)</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>-I never suggest which issues might be relevant or not</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>-I never bunch issues</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>-I leave at the beginning of the market phase</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>-I dont stay in the circle when people start
announcing their issues, </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>imagining that the space expands better if I am not
there with my 100kg </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>cluttering the circle(only exception: very large
groups, time </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>restraints...but I am not sure there either...only
time I was involved </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>with a group larger than 500, ho and I were the
microphone keepers in </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>the circle, all the other groups, even those with 500,
managed very well </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>on their own).</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Have a great summer and for those of you in parts of
our planet where </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>there is spring, fall or winter, enjoy!</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Greetings from Berlin</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>mmp</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Erik Fabian wrote:</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> Hello,</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> I have been thinking about the bulletin board and
the debate that</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> happened a while back on this list about whether
a totally free</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> collage of session postings is somehow better
than OS style events </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> that use a grid layout that notes time/locations.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> I agree that the complete free flowing collage
approach has an</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> elegant appeal but I have been asking myself a
different</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> question...why do some OS style events even use a
grid?</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> I wonder how did the use of the grid evolve at
these events? What is</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> their value?</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> I can only speculate on how these event evolved
into using a grid (or</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> if that is how they started out perhaps) but I
have realize one</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> advantage...they allow new participants to easily
to join in with an</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> event that is already in progress.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> When someone shows up late to a public event and
encounters a messy</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> session board it is hard, without further
explanation, for them to</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> understand what is going on, where it is
happening, if it is</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> happening, and if so when.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> The original OS literature I have read usually
emphasizes that</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> participants are present start to finish. There
are many obvious</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> benefits to this but the relevant one here is
that everyone is </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> present during the original board making. They
have some sense of how</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> it evolved into whatever mess that it becomes and
how it changes as</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> people go about the experience.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> It makes sense if the original OS literature
isn't accounting late</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> arrivals that it doesn't need something like a
grid to help late</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> arrivals get oriented quickly.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> Thoughts?</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> Cheerio, Erik</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> </span></font></p>
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