<div>I'd like to add a couple of points:</div>
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<div>1) Why have a "rule" about this? Different events call for different mechanics.</div>
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<div>2) From what I've seen, BarCamps have a grid and no Post-its.</div>
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<div>At the BarCamp I was part of, it never occurred to the organisers that they could add another column to the grid and thereby accommodate another bunch of sessions.</div>
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<div>Best wishes to all,</div>
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<div>Jack</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2009/8/4 Larry Peterson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:larry@spiritedorg.com">larry@spiritedorg.com</a>></span><br>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class="gmail_quote">The only "grid" I use is the one I put the post-its on. I prefer the free<br>form posting of topics on the wall, and maybe some splitting of Day 1 and<br>
Day 2. For me, the chaos at the wall is intentional and if its not there,<br>then the benefits of being at the "edge of chaos" are not achieved. People<br>have to use their intuition as well as logic when deciding what topic to<br>
pursue. It is clearly not a traditional agenda.<br><br>Larry<br><font color="#888888"><br><br>Larry Peterson & Associates in Transformation<br>Toronto, Ontario, Canada<br><a href="mailto:larry@spiritedorg.com">larry@spiritedorg.com</a> 416.653.4829 <a href="http://www.spiritedorg.com/" target="_blank">http://www.spiritedorg.com</a><br>
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<div class="h5">Subject: Re: [OSLIST] Why is a grid sometimes useful?<br><br>Erik<br><br>I have mostly created grids using making tape which certainly looks more<br>like a 'standard' agenda - rows for time slots and columns for places. That<br>
is their main value I think...<br><br>However I have experienced several difficulties:<br><br>1) Merging and combining discussions becomes a bit constrained<br>2) You need a big wall - which is often not available<br>3) I was always left wondering why we had the post-it notes and the<br>
scheduled box on the grid - as they duplicated each other - in effect.<br>4) If a balloon popped (or escaped - see by blog for a pic!<br><a href="http://jonharveyassociates.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">http://jonharveyassociates.blogspot.com/</a> ) all the sheets for that session<br>
had to be moved.<br><br>So now I favour the freeform - but slightly organised - approach. I choose X<br>wall spaces (where X is the number of time slots) and ask people to post<br>their discussions there - attaching the appropriate sticky note (11.00ish<br>
and balloon G). People can consult the wall space at any time and see laid<br>out, the various sessions that are happening at that time. This can apply to<br>new people also - if they helped, as need be, to understand what it all<br>
means - which takes 10 seconds in my experience. Merging discussions is also<br>far easier with this method. It also does not give any spurious 'order' to<br>the ideas - because they are arranged higgledy-piggledy.<br>
<br>For finding the discussions - I usually opt for large letter shaped balloons<br>suspended 2m from the floor. If you are sponsoring session D - you go and<br>get the D balloon and a flip chart and see who turns up. (see<br>
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<div class="h5">Subject: [OSLIST] Why is a grid sometimes useful?<br><br>Hello,<br><br>I have been thinking about the bulletin board and the debate that happened a<br>while back on this<br>list about whether a totally free collage of session postings is somehow<br>
better than OS style events<br>that use a grid layout that notes time/locations.<br><br>I agree that the complete free flowing collage approach has an elegant<br>appeal but I have been<br>asking myself a different question...why do some OS style events even use a<br>
grid?<br><br>I wonder how did the use of the grid evolve at these events? What is their<br>value?<br><br>I can only speculate on how these event evolved into using a grid (or if<br>that is how they started out<br>perhaps) but I have realize one advantage...they allow new participants to<br>
easily to join in with an<br>event that is already in progress.<br><br>When someone shows up late to a public event and encounters a messy session<br>board it is hard,<br>without further explanation, for them to understand what is going on, where<br>
it is happening, if it<br>is happening, and if so when.<br><br>The original OS literature I have read usually emphasizes that participants<br>are present start to<br>finish. There are many obvious benefits to this but the relevant one here is<br>
that everyone is<br>present during the original board making. They have some sense of how it<br>evolved into whatever<br>mess that it becomes and how it changes as people go about the experience.<br><br>It makes sense if the original OS literature isn't accounting late arrivals<br>
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