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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Thank you, Harrison, for speaking the real
power in 'em'powerment. ( I am just jumping in here without reading
the rest of the whole thread~)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>While your comments about process below offer the
best practice of OS, (in my few OS experiences- I have seen this magic at play -
genius emerges when the rest of us 'get out of the way'..) </FONT><FONT size=2
face=Arial>This simple wisdom (prefer not to see it as lazy or nasty..!) is
guidance for living our lives everyday- OS, family, relationships
and in whichever role we play: parent, facilitator,
significant other, child. -And for those of us in "helping professions'- HELP- !
We go into that work to "help others"- duh, as you say, we forget - or perhaps
never realize- what constitutes true 'helping. </FONT><FONT size=2
face=Arial> I'll take a leap and say that without knowing the intracacies of all
global cultures- we are 'masters' of this forgetfulness in the U.S. In
education (OS being a form/venue for self- knowledge to emerge), we know that
real learning takes place by 'doing'- vs. being told, shown,
memorization. Yet, as facilitators, because we are </FONT><FONT
size=2 face=Arial>providing an "Open" environment we believe we're making
space for 'whatever wants to show up will show up'- . </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>As a parent who firmly believed in all of the
above- the intellect in me did/does, I recall sitting on the floor with my then
toddler son- and forcing myself to put my hands behind my back so that I would
not interfere with his play! And whenever he would cry of being 'bored"- I
forced myself not to give into his pleas for help by reminding him that he would
think of something if he just gave it some time. Never failed - regardless of
his cries- within about 10-20 minutes at the most- he would become involved in
the most creative play that I could have NEVER provided!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>(Ah, I wish this wise self would visit more
often!).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>Original Message ----- </DIV>
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<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=hhowen@verizon.net href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net">Harrison Owen</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, June 28, 2009 8:51 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [OSLIST] How can we foster
sustainable outcomes?</DIV>
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<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT size=2 face="Courier New"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Raffi -- alternative harvesting, if I can call it
that, has been around for a bit. There was a marvelous OS done with a group of
Arts Councils where all the "reports were sung, danced, drawn, whatever. The
use of graphics in OS started, I suppose with the "father of Group Graphics"
David Sibbet, an old friend. I always loved what he did (drew) -- but would
chide him gently by pointing out that it really wasn't "Group Graphics" -- but
it was David's Graphics (which were superb!) Were we able to make it
truly the Group's graphics that would be a different thing.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT size=2 face="Courier New"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT size=2 face="Courier New"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">My experience has been that the more you do for
people, the less they do for themselves (duh). Obviously things we do for each
other can be very nice, indeed wonderful. And it is also true that things we
do for others are to some extent, disempowering. In small doses this is great,
but much of what passes for facilitation takes this "helpfulness" to an
extreme, I think. At worst, the facilitator takes on the whole burden and is
totally exhausted -- and the people are reduced to the level of incompetent
children. This of course makes them quite dependant, and thereby insures the
facilitator's continuing employment.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT size=2 face="Courier New"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT size=2 face="Courier New"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">My aim is always to do as little as possible, not
because I am lazy or nasty (although I may well be both</SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Wingdings><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings">J</SPAN></FONT>) – but
because I have complete confidence that the people can and will take full
responsibility for what they care about. In doing this, they will usually
manifest a level of inventiveness that I never would have thought of – and no
matter what, their invention will be appropriate to their situation. In a word
they have that great sensation of experiencing their own power – that is
called empowerment. Empowerment is not something you can do for another – you
must claim it for yourself. Indeed, if I “empower” you – you remain in my
power.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT size=2 face="Courier New"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT size=2 face="Courier New"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Or something<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT size=2 face="Courier New"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT size=2 face="Courier New"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT size=2 face="Courier New"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Harrison Owen<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT size=2 face="Courier New"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Website www.openspaceworld.com
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT size=2 face="Courier New"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Personal Website www.ho-image.com
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><st1:PersonName w:st="on"><FONT size=2
face="Courier New"><SPAN
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<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT size=2 face="Courier New"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT size=2 face="Courier New"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT size=2 face="Courier New"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-----Original Message-----<BR>From: <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName> [mailto:<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of
<st1:PersonName w:st="on">Raffi Aftandelian</st1:PersonName><BR>Sent: Sunday,
June 28, 2009 3:09 AM<BR>To: <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<BR>Subject: AW: How
can we foster sustainable outcomes?</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT size=2 face="Courier New"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT size=2 face="Courier New"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Reinhard thanks much for this
thread.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT size=2 face="Courier New"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT size=2 face="Courier New"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">The idea of the participants themselves visually
harvesting the essence of<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT size=2 face="Courier New"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">what has emerged sounds really
exciting.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT size=2 face="Courier New"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT size=2 face="Courier New"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From the standpoint of designing such DST (Doodle
Space Technology) events,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT size=2 face="Courier New"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">where does the ancient wisdom of KISS (Keep it Simple,
Senorita) and "Think<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT size=2 face="Courier New"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">of one less thing to do" come into
play?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT size=2 face="Courier New"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT size=2 face="Courier New"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">And this has me thinking, does the practice of
facilitation/harvesting with<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT size=2 face="Courier New"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">the other senses also
exist?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT size=2 face="Courier New"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT size=2 face="Courier New"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Aural facilitation? Harvesting with music, a song? (a
poem takes us part way).<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT size=2 face="Courier New"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT size=2 face="Courier New"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Olifactory facilitation?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT size=2 face="Courier New"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT size=2 face="Courier New"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Proprioceptic facilitation- capturing the physical
sensations of the shared<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT size=2 face="Courier New"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">body of the group?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT size=2 face="Courier New"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT size=2 face="Courier New"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Facilitation from the other realms? (perhaps
integrating a processwork<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT size=2 face="Courier New"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">(<st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Arnold</st1:place></st1:City> Mindell?)
perspective?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT size=2 face="Courier New"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT size=2 face="Courier New"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">movement-based harvesting? using dance, drama, aikido
(?), and other<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT size=2 face="Courier New"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">expressive arts to
harvest.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT size=2 face="Courier New"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT size=2 face="Courier New"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Many possibilities here!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT size=2 face="Courier New"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT size=2 face="Courier New"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">appreciatively, <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT size=2 face="Courier New"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">from this southern suburb of Tehrangeles (aka
<st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">San
Diego</st1:place></st1:City>),<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT size=2 face="Courier New"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">raffi<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT size=2 face="Courier New"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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