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w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Switzerland</st1:place></st1:country-region>, if
I didn’t state the 4 principles (sometimes called „experiences“ instead of „principles“),
people wouldn’t feel as free. The law alone is not strong enough in our
context. I find the 4 liberating and fostering the acceptance of what IS.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>Von:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Artur Silva
[mailto:arturfsilva@yahoo.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Gesendet:</span></b> Sonntag, 21. Juni 2009
18:25<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Betreff:</span></b> Re: Anti Laws of OST -
Foundations of OST?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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  <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
  font-family:Arial'>Larry:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
  font-family:Arial'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
  10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I am sorry but only today I had the time to answer
  you.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
  10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
  10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>We certainly need foundations or principles to Open
  Space.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
  10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
  10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>But I prefer the word "foundations"
  instead of "principles" because, due to the man of the hat, this
  word is connected forever (only) with "the 4 principles". And
  I think that that there are other principles (foundations) as important as,
  or even more important than, the 4 so called principles.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
  10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
  10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Indeed I think (sorry <st1:place w:st="on">Harrison</st1:place>)
  that the expression "The 4 principles" was badly chosen. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
  10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
  10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Because it they are "what always happens"
  they are not principles at all. And because we think that we must state the
  principles in the beginning of every session (I myself to that the majority o
  the times - but not always") and I am more and more convinced that they
  are useless. You can state them or nor, and the same things will occur. They
  are probably "one less thing to do/state". <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
  10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
  10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>But there are other principles or foundations that
  are essential, in the sense that if they are not present different things
  will happen.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
  10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
  10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>In the discussion I opened in our wiki some years
  ago I proposed the following:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
  10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
  10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>3. I would suggest, as HO wrote in the old User’s
  Guide, that OST begins with: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <ul type=disc>
   <li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
       auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
       style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>A THEME that is compelling
       enough, but also general and open enough to let people dream about and <o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
   <li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
       auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
       style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>A GROUP OF COMMITED PEOPLE
       (reason for the presences to be almost always voluntary) <o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
   <li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
       auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
       style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Enough DIVERSITY in the group
       <o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
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  <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
  10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>4. To those foundations one can add others that are
  generally accepted by all practitioners: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <ul type=disc>
   <li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
       auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
       style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>The CIRCLE (even if, in some
       cases, some argue that a "virtual circle" will do) <o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
   <li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
       auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
       style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>The</span></font><font
       size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>
       Bulletin Board </span></font><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
       style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
   <li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
       auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
       style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>The</span></font><font
       size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>
       Market Place <o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
   <li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
       auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
       style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>The "law of two
       feet" (one of the most, if not the most important feature, from
       where butterflies and bumblebees "germinate" and many conflicts
       "evaporate") <o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
   <li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
       auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
       style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>The "four
       principles" (as I have promised ;-) <o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
  </ul>
  <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
  10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
  10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>(</span></font><font size=2 face=Arial><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><a
  href="http://www.openspaceworld.org/cgi/netwiki.cgi?FoundationsofOST"
  target="_blank"><span lang=EN-US>http://www.openspaceworld.org/cgi/netwiki.cgi?FoundationsofOST</span></a></span></font><font
  size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
  10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
  10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>If I were to rewrite this today, I would surely
  suppress the last line. But all the other "foundations" (including
  the law of two feet) are essential. If you suppress one of them you will have
  a meeting; but not, IMHO, an OST meeting. But we may not talk at all
  about the "4 principles" and everything will happen as usual.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
  style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
  10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Best regrsds to all</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
  style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
  10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Artur</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
  style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
  style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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  <div>
  <p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
  style='font-size:12.0pt'><br>
  <br>
  --- On <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Thu, 5/28/09, Larry Peterson <i><span
  style='font-style:italic'><larry@spiritedorg.com></span></i></span></b>
  wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  </div>
  </div>
  <blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #1010FF 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;
  margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
  face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><br>
  From: Larry Peterson <larry@spiritedorg.com><br>
  Subject: Re: [<st1:PersonName w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>] Anti Laws of
  OST - Foundations of OST?<br>
  To: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
  Date: Thursday, May 28, 2009, 5:22 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <div id=yiv1579330242>
  <div>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
  size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
  Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Maybe a “foundation” is another word for how I often
  describe the “principles”.  I encourage people, when I open a space, to
  make some assumptions about the gathering to assume what are stated as
  principles and to act on that basis during the event.  I think these
  only become “assumed” after some evolution of consciousness and I don’t
  experience most folks in organizations being there.  I think it is
  important to articulate them, to influence the “social construction” of the
  boundaries of the OST event along with the most important part – the focus
  question or theme.  Yep, it may be a bit of ritualized behaviour but I
  think it helps increase the possibilities what will emerge in the
  self-organizing process that will happen anyway.  Besides, I (we as
  facilitators) are one of the “selves” in the self-organization.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
  </div>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
  size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
  Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
  </div>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
  size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
  Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Larry</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
  </blockquote>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
  size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
  Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
  size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
  Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
  size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
  Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Larry Peterson & Associates in Transformation</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
  size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
  Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Toronto, Ontario, Canada</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
  size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
  Calibri;color:#1F497D'><a
  href="http://us.mc546.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=larry@spiritedorg.com"
  target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:larry@spiritedorg.com">larry@spiritedorg.com</a>  
  416.653.4829 <a href="http://www.spiritedorg.com/" target="_blank">http://www.spiritedorg.com</a></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
  size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
  Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
  size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
  Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
  size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
  Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
  <div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><font
  size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
  font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
  lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <st1:PersonName
  w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName> [mailto:<st1:PersonName w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU]
  <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Artur Silva<br>
  <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> May-27-09 5:54 PM<br>
  <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
  <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [<st1:PersonName
  w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>] Anti Laws of OST - Foundations of OST?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
  </div>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
  size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0>
   <tr>
    <td valign=top style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
    <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto'><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
    font-family:Arial'>Harrison, Larry and all:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto'><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
    font-family:Arial'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto'><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
    font-family:Arial'>I am afraid that I continue to read only the messages
    from this list from time to time...</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto'><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
    font-family:Arial'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto'><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
    font-family:Arial'>Today, I read this answer from Harrison to a reply from
    Larry to an original comment by <st1:place w:st="on">Harrison</st1:place>.
    The 3 messages referred are listed below, and I ask you to <b><span
    style='font-weight:bold'>first read the parts of those messages</span></b>
    that I have transformed in bold.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto'><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
    font-family:Arial'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto'><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
    font-family:Arial'>(...) Thanks for having done that ;-)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto'><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
    font-family:Arial'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto'><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
    font-family:Arial'>Now, I am happy that <st1:place w:st="on">Harrison</st1:place>
    agrees that "<b><font color=red><span style='color:red;font-weight:
    bold'>the 4 principles and one law are neither laws nor principles
    actually" </span></font></b>and that <b><font color=red><span
    style='color:red;font-weight:bold'>there will come a day when The Law and
    The Principles can be assigned to that wonderful status of “One more thing
    not to do.”</span></font></b></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto'><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
    font-family:Arial'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto'><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
    font-family:Arial'>But Larry commented, very wisely as usual, about </span></font><b><font
    color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:Calibri;
    color:#1F497D;font-weight:bold'>the importance of some form of “boundaries”
    or “container” for self-organization</span></font></b><font size=2
    face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto'><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
    font-family:Arial'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto'><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
    font-family:Arial'>So, maybe it is the appropriate time to reintroduce a
    discussion that I have tried to introduce many moons ago, about what are
    the foundations of OST. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto'><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
    font-family:Arial'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto'><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
    font-family:Arial'>I mean, </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto'><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
    font-family:Arial'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto'><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
    font-family:Arial'>1) if the principles are not "principles"
    after all, but only what always happens, and eventually even "one more
    thing not to do" (and I remember you that I have done some OST
    experiments without reference to the Principles - and all went well as
    usual), but</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
    <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto'><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
    font-family:Arial'>2) Some form of boundary or container is needed </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto'><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
    font-family:Arial'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto'><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
    font-family:Arial'>where this boundary or container does comes
    from?  </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto'><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
    font-family:Arial'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto'><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
    font-family:Arial'>I have proposed to call that the "foundations"
    (not principles) of OST and proposed some ideas (that are only preliminary
    ideas) I would like to read (again) your opinions about.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto'><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
    font-family:Arial'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto'><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
    font-family:Arial'>You can found my (preliminary) proposals, of some time
    ago, here </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto'><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
    Arial'><a
    href="http://www.openspaceworld.org/cgi/netwiki.cgi?FoundationsofOST"
    target="_blank"><span lang=EN-US>http://www.openspaceworld.org/cgi/netwiki.cgi?FoundationsofOST</span></a></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
    <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto'><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
    font-family:Arial'>and here </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
    <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto'><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
    Arial'><a
    href="http://listserv.boisestate.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0401&L=oslist&P=R23925&I=-3&X=6543D44B5D0A7C3BC4&Y=arturfsilva%40yahoo.com"
    target="_blank"><span lang=EN-US>http://listserv.boisestate.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0401&L=oslist&P=R23925&I=-3&X=6543D44B5D0A7C3BC4&Y=arturfsilva%40yahoo.com</span></a></span></font><font
    size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
    Arial'>.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto'><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
    font-family:Arial'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto'><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
    font-family:Arial'>Looking forward to hear from you all</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto'><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
    font-family:Arial'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto'><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
    font-family:Arial'>Warn regards from a warm night in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
     w:st="on">Lisbon</st1:place></st1:City></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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    auto'><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
    font-family:Arial'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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    auto'><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
    Arial'>Artur</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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    auto'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
    <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto'><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
    Arial'>------</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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    auto'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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    <br>
    --- On <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Wed, 5/27/09, Harrison Owen <i><span
    style='font-style:italic'><hhowen@verizon.net></span></i></span></b>
    wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
    </div>
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    0cm 0cm 0cm 3.0pt;margin-left:3.0pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'>
    <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font
    size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><br>
    From: Harrison Owen <hhowen@verizon.net><br>
    Subject: Re: [<st1:PersonName w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>] Anti Laws
    of OST<br>
    To: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
    Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 7:23 AM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
    </blockquote>
    <div id=yiv1364242186>
    <div>
    <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto'><font size=3 color=red face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
    font-family:Arial;color:red'>Right on Larry – and I found a very curious
    and embarrassing typo in my small piece. I said, “They (the Principles and
    the Law) are descriptive as opposed to descriptive.” I meant to say,”They are
    descriptive as opposed to prescriptive.” <strong><b><font face=Arial><span
    style='font-family:Arial'>Point is neither the Law nor the Principles tell
    you what to do – they simply alert everybody to what will be taking place
    no matter what.</span></font></b></strong> I think that is a useful
    function, <strong><b><font face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>but
    it really doesn’t change a thing</span></font></b></strong>. <strong><b><font
    face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>In short – there will come a day
    when The Law and The Principles can be assigned to that wonderful status of
    “One more thing not to do.”</span></font></b></strong></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    </div>
    </div>
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    auto'><font size=3 color=red face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
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    auto'><font size=3 color=red face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
    font-family:Arial;color:red'>Harrison </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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    face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>Harrison
    Owen</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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    <p align=center style='text-align:center'><st1:PersonName w:st="on"><font
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    <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto'><font size=3 color=red face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
    font-family:Arial;color:red'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
    10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
    <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>
    [mailto:<st1:PersonName w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU]
    <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Larry Peterson<br>
    <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, May 27, 2009
    9:44 AM<br>
    <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
    <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: Anti Laws of OST</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
    style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
    <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
    style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>For me, there is
    more sense in the “Principles and Law” than non-sense.</span></font><font
    size=2 color="#1f497d"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><font
    size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
    font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> Stewart Kauffman explores <strong><b><font
    face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'>the importance of some form
    of “boundaries” or “container” for self-organization</span></font></b></strong>,
    particularly that of cells.</span></font><font size=2 color="#1f497d"><span
    style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><font size=2
    color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
    Calibri;color:#1F497D'> He believes (with strong scientific evidence) that <strong><b><font
    face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'>real physical work only gets
    done within some “boundaries” or it dissipates</span></font></b></strong>.</span></font><font
    size=2 color="#1f497d"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><font
    size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
    font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> Cells, he asserts, co-create their
    “boundaries” with their environment through self-organizing relationships
    in every moment.</span></font><font size=2 color="#1f497d"><span
    style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><font size=2
    color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
    Calibri;color:#1F497D'> The boundaries are permeable, constructs, open to
    interchange with their environment. (No such thing as a closed system!)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
    style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
    style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Harrison, <strong><b><font
    face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'>I believe you have
    articulated a set of socially constructed permeable “boundaries” for
    enhancing human self-organization</span></font></b></strong> – including
    the focus/theme, principles and law.</span></font><font size=2
    color="#1f497d"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><font
    size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
    font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> These set a temporary set of
    “boundaries” or a “container” both focused and open that change the
    perceived conditions for self-organization at an event or meeting.</span></font><font
    size=2 color="#1f497d"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><font
    size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
    font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> Self-organization is happening all the
    time, in every moment.</span></font><font size=2 color="#1f497d"><span
    style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><font size=2
    color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
    Calibri;color:#1F497D'> Our mental maps (in practice) and feelings shape
    what we do as we self-organize – what topics we propose and who we connect
    to.</span></font><font size=2 color="#1f497d"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
    color:#1F497D'> </span></font><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
    face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>
    Are they necessary for self-organization (Open Space) – no, it is happening
    all the time as order emerges.</span></font><font size=2 color="#1f497d"><span
    style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><font size=2
    color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
    Calibri;color:#1F497D'> Do they (<strong><b><font face=Calibri><span
    style='font-family:Calibri'>or other similar statements</span></font></b></strong>
    about the social framework for our self-organizing) help people to
    self-organize in exciting and creative ways? </span></font><font size=2
    color="#1f497d"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><font
    size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
    font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>I think so.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
    style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
    style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Larry</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
    style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
    style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
    style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Larry Peterson
    & Associates in Transformation</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
    style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Toronto,
    Ontario, Canada</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
    style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><a
    href="http://us.mc546.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=larry@spiritedorg.com"
    target="_blank">larry@spiritedorg.com</a></span></font><font size=2
    color="#1f497d"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>  </span></font><font
    size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
    font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> 416.653.4829 <a
    href="http://www.spiritedorg.com/" target="_blank">http://www.spiritedorg.com</a></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
    style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
    style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
    style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    <div>
    <div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
    <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;margin-left:36.0pt'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
    style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
    size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <st1:PersonName
    w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName> [mailto:<st1:PersonName w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU]
    <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Harrison Owen<br>
    <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> May-25-09 2:59 PM<br>
    <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
    <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [<st1:PersonName
    w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>] Anti Laws of OST</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
    </div>
    </div>
    <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
    style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
    <p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
    auto;margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3 color=red face=Arial><span
    style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>Just to render the
    whole thing non-sensical, <strong><b><font face=Arial><span
    style='font-family:Arial'>the 4 principles and one law are neither laws nor
    principles actually</span></font></b></strong>. To be honest <strong><b><font
    face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>they are just my (and others’)
    observations of what seemed to be happening in any case</span></font></b></strong>.
    In a word they are descriptive as opposed to descriptive – You could say it
    is all a joke. <strong><b><font face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>Rather
    like “technology” in the phrase Open Space Technology</span></font></b></strong>.
    The joke, however turned out to be outrageously funny – because somehow or
    another truth broke through. We are in serious trouble! Everybody knows
    that what happens in Open Space simply can’t happen. Unfortunately it does
    – and that makes a joke out of a whole mess of other stuff – like most of
    what we think we know about meetings, the management of meetings, and
    management itself. Double trouble!!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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