Artur, thanks for opening the space for this conversation about principles. As a designer, we always work from principles which become even more important when design is collaborative dialogue, in the David Bohm sense of dialogue. Principles in this context at the same time describe and invite. When they are right, they are beautiful and they inspire new conversations that provide the foundation for what we can imagine and do together that we could never do apart.<div>
<br clear="all">With gratitude, Jack<br><br>-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-<br>DesigningLife.com<br><br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Artur Silva <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:arturfsilva@yahoo.com">arturfsilva@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" style="font:inherit"><p style="line-height:normal;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt">Larry:</span>
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</p><p style="line-height:normal;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US">I am sorry but only today I had the time to answer you.</span>
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</p><p style="line-height:normal;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US">We certainly need foundations or principles to Open Space.</span>
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</p><p style="line-height:normal;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US">But I prefer the word "foundations" instead of "principles" because, due to the man of the hat, this word is connected forever (only) with "the 4 principles". And I think that that there are other principles (foundations) as important as, or even more important than, the 4 so called principles.</span>
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</p><p style="line-height:normal;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US">Indeed I think (sorry Harrison) that the expression "The 4 principles" was badly chosen. </span>
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</p><p style="line-height:normal;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US">Because it they are "what always happens" they are not principles at all. And because we think that we must state the principles in the beginning of every session (I myself to that the majority o the times - but not always") and I am more and more convinced that they are useless. You can state them or nor, and the same things will occur. They are probably "one less thing to do/state". </span>
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</p><p style="line-height:normal;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US">But there are other principles or foundations that are essential, in the sense that if they are not present different things will happen.</span>
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</p><p style="line-height:normal;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US">In the discussion I opened in our wiki some years ago I proposed the following:</span>
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</p><p style="line-height:normal;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US">3. I would suggest, as HO wrote in the old User’s Guide, that OST begins with: </span>
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<li style="line-height:normal;margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span style="font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US">A THEME that is compelling enough, but also general and open enough to let people dream about and </span></li>
<li style="line-height:normal;margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span style="font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US">A GROUP OF COMMITED PEOPLE (reason for the presences to be almost always voluntary) </span></li>
<li style="line-height:normal;margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span style="font-size:10pt">Enough DIVERSITY in the group </span></li></ul>
<p style="line-height:normal;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US">4. To those foundations one can add others that are generally accepted by all practitioners: </span>
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<li style="line-height:normal;margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span style="font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US">The CIRCLE (even if, in some cases, some argue that a "virtual circle" will do) </span></li>
<li style="line-height:normal;margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span style="font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US">The</span><span style="font-size:10pt"> Bulletin Board </span><span style="font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US"></span></li>
<li style="line-height:normal;margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span style="font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US">The</span><span style="font-size:10pt"> Market Place </span></li>
<li style="line-height:normal;margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span style="font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US">The "law of two feet" (one of the most, if not the most important feature, from where butterflies and bumblebees "germinate" and many conflicts "evaporate") </span></li>
<li style="line-height:normal;margin:0cm 0cm 10pt"><span style="font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US">The "four principles" (as I have promised ;-) </span></li></ul>
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</p><p style="line-height:normal;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US">(</span><span style="font-size:10pt"><a href="http://www.openspaceworld.org/cgi/netwiki.cgi?FoundationsofOST" target="_blank"><span style="color:blue" lang="EN-US">http://www.openspaceworld.org/cgi/netwiki.cgi?FoundationsofOST</span></a></span><span style="font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US">)</span>
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</p><p style="line-height:normal;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US">If I were to rewrite this today, I would surely suppress the last line. But all the other "foundations" (including the law of two feet) are essential. If you suppress one of them you will have a meeting; but not, IMHO, an OST meeting. But we may not talk at all about the "4 principles" and everything will happen as usual.</span>
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</p><p style="line-height:normal;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US">Best regrsds to all</span>
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</p><p style="line-height:normal;margin:0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US">Artur</span>
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<div><br><br>--- On <b>Thu, 5/28/09, Larry Peterson <i><<a href="mailto:larry@spiritedorg.com" target="_blank">larry@spiritedorg.com</a>></i></b> wrote:<br></div></div>
<blockquote style="border-left:rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid;padding-left:5px;margin-left:5px"><br>From: Larry Peterson <<a href="mailto:larry@spiritedorg.com" target="_blank">larry@spiritedorg.com</a>><div class="im"><br>
Subject: Re: [OSLIST] Anti Laws of OST - Foundations of OST?<br>To: <a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" target="_blank">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a><br></div>Date: Thursday, May 28, 2009, 5:22 PM<div><div>
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<p><span style="color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt">Maybe a “foundation” is another word for how I often describe the “principles”. I encourage people, when I open a space, to make some assumptions about the gathering to assume what are stated as principles and to act on that basis during the event. I think these only become “assumed” after some evolution of consciousness and I don’t experience most folks in organizations being there. I think it is important to articulate them, to influence the “social construction” of the boundaries of the OST event along with the most important part – the focus question or theme. Yep, it may be a bit of ritualized behaviour but I think it helps increase the possibilities what will emerge in the self-organizing process that will happen anyway. Besides, I (we as facilitators) are one of the “selves” in the
self-organization.</span></p></div>
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<p><span style="color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt">Larry</span>
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<b>Sent:</b> May-27-09 5:54 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" target="_blank">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSLIST] Anti Laws of OST - Foundations of OST?</span></p>
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</p><p><span style="font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US">I am afraid that I continue to read only the messages from this list from time to time...</span>
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</p><p><span style="font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US">Today, I read this answer from Harrison to a reply from Larry to an original comment by Harrison. The 3 messages referred are listed below, and I ask you to </span><b><span style="font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US">first read the parts of those messages</span></b><span style="font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US"> that I have transformed in bold.</span>
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</p><p><span style="font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US">(...) Thanks for having done that ;-)</span>
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</p><p><span style="font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US">Now, I am happy that Harrison agrees that "</span><b><span style="color:red;font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US">the 4 principles and one law are neither laws nor principles actually" </span></b><span style="font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US">and that </span><b><span style="color:red;font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US">there will come a day when The Law and The Principles can be assigned to that wonderful status of “One more thing not to do.”</span></b><span style="font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US"></span>
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</p><p><span style="font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US">But Larry commented, very wisely as usual, about </span><b><span style="color:#1f497d" lang="EN-US">the importance of some form of “boundaries” or “container” for self-organization</span></b><span style="font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US">. </span>
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</p><p><span style="font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US">So, maybe it is the appropriate time to reintroduce a discussion that I have tried to introduce many moons ago, about what are the foundations of OST. </span>
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</p><p><span style="font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US">I mean, </span>
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</p><p><span style="font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US">1) if the principles are not "principles" after all, but only what always happens, and eventually even "one more thing not to do" (and I remember you that I have done some OST experiments without reference to the Principles - and all went well as usual), but</span>
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</p><p><span style="font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US">2) Some form of boundary or container is needed </span>
</p><p><span style="font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US"> </span>
</p><p><span style="font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US">where this boundary or container does comes from? </span>
</p><p><span style="font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US"> </span>
</p><p><span style="font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US">I have proposed to call that the "foundations" (not principles) of OST and proposed some ideas (that are only preliminary ideas) I would like to read (again) your opinions about.</span>
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</p><p><span style="font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US">You can found my (preliminary) proposals, of some time ago, here </span>
</p><p><span style="font-size:10pt"><a href="http://www.openspaceworld.org/cgi/netwiki.cgi?FoundationsofOST" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US">http://www.openspaceworld.org/cgi/netwiki.cgi?FoundationsofOST</span></a></span>
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</p><p><span style="font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US">and here </span>
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</p><p><span style="font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US">Looking forward to hear from you all</span>
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</p><p><span style="font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US">Warn regards from a warm night in Lisbon</span>
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<p><br><br>--- On <b>Wed, 5/27/09, Harrison Owen <i><<a href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net" target="_blank">hhowen@verizon.net</a>></i></b> wrote:</p></div>
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<p style="margin-bottom:12pt"><br>From: Harrison Owen <<a href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net" target="_blank">hhowen@verizon.net</a>><br>Subject: Re: [OSLIST] Anti Laws of OST<br>To: <a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" target="_blank">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a><br>
Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 7:23 AM
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<p><span style="color:red">Right on Larry – and I found a very curious and embarrassing typo in my small piece. I said, “They (the Principles and the Law) are descriptive as opposed to descriptive.” I meant to say,”They are descriptive as opposed to prescriptive.” <strong><span>Point is neither the Law nor the Principles tell you what to do – they simply alert everybody to what will be taking place no matter what.</span></strong> I think that is a useful function, <strong><span>but it really doesn’t change a thing</span></strong>. <strong><span>In short – there will come a day when The Law and The Principles can be assigned to that wonderful status of “One more thing not to do.”</span></strong></span></p>
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</p><p style="margin-left:36pt"><span style="font-size:10pt">-----Original Message-----<br><b>From:</b> OSLIST [mailto:<a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" target="_blank">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Larry Peterson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:44 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" target="_blank">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: Anti Laws of OST</span>
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</p><p style="margin-left:36pt"><span style="color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt">For me, there is more sense in the “Principles and Law” than non-sense.</span><span style="color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt"> </span><span style="color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt"> Stewart Kauffman explores <strong><span>the importance of some form of “boundaries” or “container” for self-organization</span></strong>, particularly that of cells.</span><span style="color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt"> </span><span style="color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt"> He believes (with strong scientific evidence) that <strong><span>real physical work only gets done within some “boundaries” or it dissipates</span></strong>.</span><span style="color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt"> </span><span style="color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt"> Cells, he asserts, co-create their “boundaries” with their environment through self-organizing relationships in every moment.</span><span style="color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt"> </span><span style="color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt"> The boundaries are permeable, constructs, open to interchange with their environment. (No such thing as a closed system!)</span>
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</p><p style="margin-left:36pt"><span style="color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt">Harrison, <strong><span>I believe you have articulated a set of socially constructed permeable “boundaries” for enhancing human self-organization</span></strong> – including the focus/theme, principles and law.</span><span style="color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt"> </span><span style="color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt"> These set a temporary set of “boundaries” or a “container” both focused and open that change the perceived conditions for self-organization at an event or meeting.</span><span style="color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt"> </span><span style="color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt"> Self-organization is happening all the time, in every moment.</span><span style="color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt"> </span><span style="color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt"> Our mental maps (in practice) and feelings shape what we do as we self-organize – what topics we propose and who we connect to.</span><span style="color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt"> </span><span style="color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt"> Are they necessary for self-organization (Open Space) – no, it is happening all the time as order emerges.</span><span style="color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt"> </span><span style="color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt"> Do they (<strong><span>or other similar statements</span></strong> about the social framework for our self-organizing) help people to self-organize in exciting and creative ways? </span><span style="color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt"> </span><span style="color:#1f497d;font-size:11pt">I think so.</span>
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<p style="margin-left:36pt"><b><span style="font-size:10pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10pt"> OSLIST [mailto:<a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" target="_blank">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Harrison Owen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> May-25-09 2:59 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" target="_blank">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSLIST] Anti Laws of OST</span></p></div></div>
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</p><p style="margin-left:36pt"><span style="color:red">Just to render the whole thing non-sensical, <strong><span>the 4 principles and one law are neither laws nor principles actually</span></strong>. To be honest <strong><span>they are just my (and others’) observations of what seemed to be happening in any case</span></strong>. In a word they are descriptive as opposed to descriptive – You could say it is all a joke. <strong><span>Rather like “technology” in the phrase Open Space Technology</span></strong>. The joke, however turned out to be outrageously funny – because somehow or another truth broke through. We are in serious trouble! Everybody knows that what happens in Open Space simply can’t happen. Unfortunately it does – and that makes a joke out of a
whole mess of other stuff – like most of what we think we know about meetings, the management of meetings, and management itself. Double trouble!!</span>
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</p><p style="margin-left:36pt"><span style="color:red">Harrison</span>
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<p style="text-align:center;margin-left:36pt" align="center"><span style="color:red;font-size:10pt">Harrison Owen</span></p></div>
<p style="text-align:center;margin-left:36pt" align="center"><span style="color:red;font-size:10pt">7808 River Falls Drive</span>
</p><p style="text-align:center;margin-left:36pt" align="center"><span style="color:red;font-size:10pt">Potomac, Maryland 20854</span>
</p><p style="text-align:center;margin-left:36pt" align="center"><span style="color:red;font-size:10pt">Phone 301-365-2093</span>
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</p><p style="text-align:center;margin-left:36pt" align="center"><span style="color:red">Open Space Training</span><span style="color:red"> <a href="http://www.openspaceworld.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><u><span style="color:blue">www.openspaceworld.com</span></u></a> </span>
</p><p style="text-align:center;margin-left:36pt" align="center"><span style="color:red">Open Space Institute</span><span style="color:red"> <a href="http://www.openspaceworld.org/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><u><span style="color:blue">www.openspaceworld.org</span></u></a></span>
</p><p style="text-align:center;margin-left:36pt" align="center"><span style="color:red">Personal website</span><span style="color:red"> <a href="http://www.ho-image.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><u><span style="color:blue">www.ho-image.com</span></u></a> </span>
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