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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hi all:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>When we think about it, and as we think about it, I think we
should try to honor (or honour) Kaliya’s request. One of the things that
I have noticed on this list is how welcoming we are to newcomers and how often,
they post a request for information that has been discussed a lot in the past.
No one seems to mind reposting links to various kinds of information that has
been posted before and we are quick to suggest that they go to various websites
and search for past threads. In fact we are very generous with this. How much
easier might it be if we kept our subject lines consistent with the topic that
inspires them?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The reaction against this might have to do with the word “etiquette”.
The word’s history is described in the Shorter Oxford English Dictionary where
it suggests a routine, a procedure and even the mechanism or ticket by which a
French soldier might find his billet. It then comes to mean something
that represents honour (or honor) and a sign that someone knows how to do
something (usually someone in the French court and therefore upper classes).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>In our North American and indeed Western and more modern view of
things, the word “etiquette” has grown to mean the rules of correct
behaviour (or behavior) and that implies that someone or some authority is
trying to impose those rules (in my youth it was my parents, now it is largely
my own conscience, but also the law) and in a kind of way, Open Space was
formed to get around formerly binding and constricting conventions and get rid
of as many rules as we could in order to allow people to self-organize. But OS
is not lawless. There are rules and principles that allow for OS to flourish.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>In my humble opinion, we should honour (or honor) Kaliya’s
request. I do not think it is an unreasonable one nor do I think she is trying
to impose anything. And it is simply a request.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>My two cents…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Esther<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kaliya *<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 15, 2009 1:58 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSLIST] list etiquette<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>FINE!<br>
<br>
You guys can have your own "reality" of list etiquette. <br>
I live in the tech world....and people work and do business and change the
world developing common standards and work via mailing lists.<br>
<br>
Keeping threads clear and not dividing them is an important part of helping these
communities function and work together. It is like having a session that is
going well and then for no apparent reason dividing it into multiple sessions
mid way through......not cool (this is assuming the conversation is coherent
and going well)<br>
<br>
While you all are SO focused on face to face processes of OST (and other
things) you are forgetting that some have develped amazing cultures and
learning for connecting and sharing online. It is from these practices and
sharing that I make this request. <br>
<br>
I make a simple request that is not specific to "your" list serve it
is respectful of mailing list community practice generally...I am pointing it
out so you can stop doing it. If you choose not to FINE but it is disresepctful
of the conversation and people like me who start threads only to find them
split off for no good reason....in technical communities you can have threads
that are 80+ posts long this is good cause if you are going back to read them
in archives or even reading them the first time in a reader like google they
all come out in order. <br>
<br>
<br>
I suggest you add a #12 to the etiquette guide about not splitting list threads
a part...<br>
<br>
Thanks. <br>
-Kaliya<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 9:59 PM, Raffi Aftandelian <<a
href="mailto:raffi@bk.ru">raffi@bk.ru</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Kaliya,<br>
<br>
I hear you'd like folks to follow list etiquette.<br>
<br>
("etiquette" FAQ here:<br>
<br>
<a
href="http://www.openspaceworld.org/cgi/wiki.cgi?FrequentlyAskedOSLISTQuestions"
target="_blank">http://www.openspaceworld.org/cgi/wiki.cgi?FrequentlyAskedOSLISTQuestions</a>)<br>
<br>
I've been on this list for some 8 years now, love it, (most of the time it's<br>
a pretty amicable place except when a few of us go off the deep end) and am<br>
not sure how much luck anyone has had for people to write or post things<br>
differently.<br>
<br>
Perhaps like herding bees?<br>
<br>
I can just say in my own case, that I just had so much difficulty seeing<br>
myself being part of a session called "Open Space defined badly" that
I<br>
created a new one...<br>
<br>
bzzzzzzzzzzzzz<br>
<br>
wormly,<br>
wroffi<br>
<br>
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