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Which reminds of your example in Wave Rider of paths across the grass
on the university campus. Interestingly, father-in-law had the exact
same experience in the army (of all places) many years ago.<br>
<br>
Bui<br>
<br>
Harrison Owen wrote:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="3"><span
style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;">Bui – I think
you could extend your
observation to include all serious human endeavors. Rule making is like
map
making, both occur after the fact and must never be confused with the
primal
reality. In the beginning was the territory.</span></font></p>
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style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="3"><span
style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;">Harrison</span></font></p>
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<p style="text-align: center;" align="center"><font color="black"
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<p style="text-align: center;" align="center"><font color="black"
face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">7808 River Falls Drive</span></font></p>
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face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Potomac, Maryland 20854</span></font></p>
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face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Phone </span></font><font
face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">301-365-2093</span></font></p>
<p style="text-align: center;" align="center"><font color="black"
face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Skype hhowen</span></font></p>
<p style="text-align: center;" align="center"><font color="black"
face="Arial" size="3"><span
style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial;">Open Space Training</span></font>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.openspaceworld.com/"><font
face="Arial"><span style="font-family: Arial;">www.openspaceworld.com</span></font></a>
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<p style="text-align: center;" align="center"><font color="black"
face="Arial" size="3"><span
style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial;">Open Space Institute</span></font>
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face="Arial"><span style="font-family: Arial;">www.openspaceworld.org</span></font></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;" align="center"><font color="black"
face="Arial" size="3"><span
style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial;">Personal website</span></font>
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face="Arial"><span style="font-family: Arial;">www.ho-image.com</span></font></a>
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face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: windowtext;">-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> OSLIST
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a>] <b><span
style="font-weight: bold;">On
Behalf Of </span></b>Bui Petersen<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, May 29,
2009 3:38 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: Anti Laws
of OST</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black"
face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Many of
the
"rules" in classical music composition came after the music was
composed. The best composers have always been making up the rules as
they went
along. In many ways, the rules of music composition are more
descriptive than
prescriptive.<br>
<br>
Just a thought,<br>
<br>
Bui<br>
<br>
McIntosh, Carey wrote: </span></font></p>
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face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><u1:SmartTagType
namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"
name="PostalCode"><u1:SmartTagType
namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="State"><u1:SmartTagType
namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="Street"><u1:SmartTagType
namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"
name="address"><u1:SmartTagType
namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="City"><u1:SmartTagType
namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place"><u1:SmartTagType
namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"
name="country-region"><u1:SmartTagType
namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"
name="PersonName"></u1:SmartTagType></u1:SmartTagType></u1:SmartTagType></u1:SmartTagType></u1:SmartTagType></u1:SmartTagType></u1:SmartTagType></u1:SmartTagType>Traditional
classical music is composed using
“rules” that relate to the harmonic properties of musical sound.
After the early 20th century, when 12-tone composition was seen to be
moving
beyond the traditional constraints imposed by those harmonic
properties,
composers had to make up their own rules. Igor Stravinsky (who composed
during
an era when the “old rules” had been largely discredited)
apparently once said that he had to invent his own rules (or set his
own
boundaries, if you will) in order to compose. The boundaries might
change with
every new composition, but without boundaries he could not find
creativity. <u1:p></u1:p></span></font></p>
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face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="navy"
face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Much closer
to home, I am
a vegetarian and I find that I really enjoy the creativity that comes
from
cooking within the boundaries of “no meat”. <u1:p></u1:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="navy"
face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="navy"
face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">I am a
“not-yet” practitioner of OS but it seems to me from what
I’ve seen on this list that the beauty of the “principles and
law” are that they set the boundaries that allow the creativity to
emerge. <u1:p></u1:p></span></font></p>
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face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="navy"
face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Respectfully,
<u1:p></u1:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="navy"
face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Carey <u1:p></u1:p></span></font></p>
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face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><b><font
color="black" face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; font-weight: bold;">From:</span></font></b><font
face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;"> <st1:PersonName
u4:st="on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>
[mailto:<st1:PersonName u4:st="on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU]
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Larry
Peterson<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, May
27, 2009 3:44
PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName
u4:st="on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [<st1:PersonName
u4:st="on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>]
Anti Laws of OST</span></font><u1:p></u1:p></p>
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face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="#1f497d"
face="Calibri" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-CA">For me, there is more sense in the “Principles and Law”
than non-sense.</span></font><font color="#1f497d" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-CA"> </span></font><font
color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-CA"> Stewart Kauffman explores the importance of
some form of “boundaries” or “container” for
self-organization, particularly that of cells.</span></font><font
color="#1f497d" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-CA"> </span></font><font
color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-CA"> He believes (with strong scientific
evidence) that real physical work only gets done within some
“boundaries”
or it dissipates.</span></font><font color="#1f497d" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-CA"> </span></font><font
color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-CA"> Cells, he asserts, co-create their “boundaries”
with their environment through self-organizing relationships in every
moment.</span></font><font color="#1f497d" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-CA"> </span></font><font
color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-CA"> The boundaries are permeable, constructs,
open to interchange with their environment. (No such thing as a closed
system!)<u1:p></u1:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="#1f497d"
face="Times New Roman" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-CA"><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><st1:place u4:st="on"><font
color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-CA">Harrison</span></font></st1:place><font color="#1f497d"
face="Calibri" size="2">, I believe you have
articulated a set of socially constructed permeable “boundaries”
for enhancing human self-organization – including the focus/theme,
principles and law.</font><font color="#1f497d" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-CA"> </span></font><font
color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-CA"> These set a temporary set of “boundaries”
or a “container” both focused and open that change the perceived
conditions for self-organization at an event or meeting.</span></font><font
color="#1f497d" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-CA"> </span></font><font
color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-CA"> Self-organization is happening all the
time, in every moment.</span></font><font color="#1f497d" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-CA"> </span></font><font
color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-CA"> Our mental maps (in practice) and feelings
shape what we do as we self-organize – what topics we propose and who
we
connect to.</span></font><font color="#1f497d" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-CA"> </span></font><font
color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-CA"> Are they necessary for self-organization
(Open Space) – no, it is happening all the time as order emerges.</span></font><font
color="#1f497d" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-CA"> </span></font><font
color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-CA"> Do they (or other similar statements about
the social framework for our self-organizing) help people to
self-organize in
exciting and creative ways? </span></font><font color="#1f497d"
size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-CA"> </span></font><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"
size="2"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-CA">I think so.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-CA"><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font></p>
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face="Calibri" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-CA">Larry<u1:p></u1:p></span></font></p>
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style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-CA"><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font></p>
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style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-CA"><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="#1f497d"
face="Calibri" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-CA">Larry Peterson & Associates in Transformation<u1:p></u1:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><st1:place u4:st="on"><st1:City
u4:st="on"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-CA">Toronto</span></font></st1:City><font color="#1f497d"
face="Calibri" size="2">, <st1:State u4:st="on">Ontario</st1:State>,
<st1:country-region u4:st="on">Canada</st1:country-region></font></st1:place></p>
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lang="EN-CA"><a href="mailto:larry@spiritedorg.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">larry@spiritedorg.com</a></span></font><font
color="#1f497d" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-CA"> </span></font><font
color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"
lang="EN-CA"> 416.653.4829 <a href="http://www.spiritedorg.com/"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.spiritedorg.com</a><u1:p></u1:p></span></font></p>
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color="black" face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; font-weight: bold;">From:</span></font></b><font
face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;"> <st1:PersonName
u4:st="on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>
[mailto:<st1:PersonName u4:st="on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU]
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Harrison
Owen<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> May-25-09 2:59 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName
u4:st="on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [<st1:PersonName
u4:st="on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>]
Anti Laws of OST<u1:p></u1:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="red"
face="Arial" size="3"><span
style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;">Just to
render the whole
thing non-sensical, the 4 principles and one law are neither laws nor
principles actually. To be honest they are just my (and others’)
observations of what seemed to be happening in any case. In a word they
are
descriptive as opposed to descriptive – You could say it is all a joke.
Rather like “technology” in the phrase Open Space Technology. The
joke, however turned out to be outrageously funny – because somehow or
another truth broke through. We are in serious trouble! Everybody knows
that
what happens in Open Space simply can’t happen. Unfortunately it does
– and that makes a joke out of a whole mess of other stuff – like
most of what we think we know about meetings, the management of
meetings, and
management itself. Double trouble!!</span></font><u1:p></u1:p></p>
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Derrick
Mathews<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, May 25,
2009 9:44 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName
u4:st="on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: Anti Laws
of OST</span></font><u1:p></u1:p></p>
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face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <u1:p></u1:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1in;"><strong><b><font
color="blue" face="Arial" size="3"><span
style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: blue;">Hi Andrew</span></font></b></strong><u1:p></u1:p></p>
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face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <u1:p></u1:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1in;"><strong><b><font
color="blue" face="Arial" size="3"><span
style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: blue;">I am unsure
if you can have anti laws with regard to the principles.</span></font></b></strong><u1:p></u1:p></p>
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face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <u1:p></u1:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1in;"><strong><b><font
color="blue" face="Arial" size="3"><span
style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: blue;">First of all
the process is based on "SELF" (the most
important concept here)-organisation which involved participation or
non-participation which involves human choice. Even if you adopt a
Doris
Day approach (Que Serra, Serra, whatever will be, will be, the future's
not
ours to see, que serra, serra, am I giving my age away knowing this
song lol)
your choice to let things happen is an intervention and so you have
influenced
the process making what happens the only thing that could have.</span></font></b></strong><u1:p></u1:p></p>
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face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <u1:p></u1:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1in;"><strong><b><font
color="blue" face="Arial" size="3"><span
style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: blue;">If you do
not turn up then you have had an influence of
non-influence on the process and outcome so you have been involved and
have
been part of the right people.</span></font></b></strong><u1:p></u1:p></p>
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face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <u1:p></u1:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1in;"><strong><b><font
color="blue" face="Arial" size="3"><span
style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: blue;">What ever
happens is the only thing as if you are
"involved" your involvement changes the dynamic and outcome, likewise
if you are "involved" via no-involvement you affect the dynamic in a
different way and as I stated above what then happens is the only thing
that
could have.</span></font></b></strong><u1:p></u1:p></p>
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face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <u1:p></u1:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1in;"><strong><b><font
color="blue" face="Arial" size="3"><span
style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: blue;">Likewise
when it starts is because someone made a choice to start
it and you are "involved" or "not" which still has impact
and similarly it's over because there is a choice made that it is over
via
group consensus or an individual's choice that for them it is over.</span></font></b></strong><u1:p></u1:p></p>
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face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <u1:p></u1:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1in;"><strong><b><font
color="blue" face="Arial" size="3"><span
style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: blue;">Everything
is in some way linked and interdependent and what we
choose to do or not do, ripples out to affect all around us.</span></font></b></strong><u1:p></u1:p></p>
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face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <u1:p></u1:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1in;"><strong><b><font
color="blue" face="Arial" size="3"><span
style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: blue;">We just need
to always endeavour to impact in a positive way.</span></font></b></strong><u1:p></u1:p></p>
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face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <u1:p></u1:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1in;"><strong><b><font
color="blue" face="Arial" size="3"><span
style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: blue;">Anyhoo, hope
this adds to the confusion.</span></font></b></strong><u1:p></u1:p></p>
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face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <u1:p></u1:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1in;"><strong><b><font
color="blue" face="Arial" size="3"><span
style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: blue;">And on
another thread, where are the most unusual places that
folks know OST has happened?</span></font></b></strong><u1:p></u1:p></p>
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face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <u1:p></u1:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1in;"><strong><b><font
color="blue" face="Arial" size="3"><span
style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: blue;">I recently
had the pleasure of opening space for a great group of
young people (that's anyone younger than me) from about 9 different
parts
of Europe who had come together In Londonderry to be involved in an
Up-cycling
project of Trash to Treasure which also involved a 1 day OS. </span></font></b></strong><u1:p></u1:p></p>
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face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <u1:p></u1:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1in;"><strong><b><font
color="blue" face="Arial" size="3"><span
style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: blue;">One
participant selected the swimming pool as an additional
breakout space and it was one of the best attended sessions with the
details of
the conversation recorded at the side of the pool by anyone out of the
water.</span></font></b></strong><u1:p></u1:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1in;"><strong><b><font
color="blue" face="Arial" size="3"><span
style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: blue;">Maybe the
fifth unspoken principle is;</span></font></b></strong><u1:p></u1:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1in;"><strong><b><font
color="blue" face="Arial" size="3"><span
style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: blue;">Where ever
it happens is the right place/only place it could have
happened</span></font></b></strong><u1:p></u1:p></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;"> <st1:PersonName
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Andrew
Rixon<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> 24 May 2009 02:10<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName
u4:st="on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Anti Laws of
OST</span></font><u1:p></u1:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1in;"><font color="black"
face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Dear All,</span></font><u1:p></u1:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1in;"><font color="black"
face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font><u1:p></u1:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1in;"><font color="black"
face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Recently I’ve
been pondering / wondering about what might be the Anti-laws of OST.</span></font><u1:p></u1:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1in;"><font color="black"
face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font><u1:p></u1:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1in;"><font color="black"
face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">For instance.</span></font><u1:p></u1:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1in;"><font color="black"
face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font><u1:p></u1:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1in;"><font color="black"
face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">“What
isn’t happening are all the things that should be”</span></font><u1:p></u1:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1in;"><font color="black"
face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font><u1:p></u1:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1in;"><font color="black"
face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Or</span></font><u1:p></u1:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1in;"><font color="black"
face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font><u1:p></u1:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1in;"><font color="black"
face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">“What
didn’t happen are all the things that should have”</span></font><u1:p></u1:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1in;"><font color="black"
face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font><u1:p></u1:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1in;"><font color="black"
face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">As opposed to…</span></font><u1:p></u1:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1in;"><font color="black"
face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font><u1:p></u1:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1in;"><font color="black"
face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">“Whatever
happens is the only thing that could have or did”</span></font><u1:p></u1:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1in;"><font color="black"
face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font><u1:p></u1:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1in;"><font color="black"
face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">What are your
thoughts on other “complimentary” anti-laws? </span></font><font
face="Wingdings" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Wingdings;">J</span></font><u1:p></u1:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1in;"><font color="black"
face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font><u1:p></u1:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1in;"><font color="black"
face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Warm regards,</span></font><u1:p></u1:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1in;"><font color="black"
face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Andrew</span></font><u1:p></u1:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1in;"><font color="black"
face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font><u1:p></u1:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1in;"><font color="black"
face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">--</span></font><u1:p></u1:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1in;"><font color="black"
face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Andrew Rixon PhD<br>
Director<br>
Babel Fish Group Pty Ltd<br>
Skype: AndrewJRixon<br>
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0400
352 809<br>
Fax: (03) 8610 0162</span></font> <font face="Arial" size="2"><span
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Email: <a href="mailto:andrew@babelfishgroup.com"
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URL: <a href="http://www.babelfishgroup.com/" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.babelfishgroup.com/</a></span></font><u1:p></u1:p></p>
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