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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Maybe a “foundation” is another word for how I often describe the
“principles”. I encourage people, when I open a space, to make some
assumptions about the gathering to assume what are stated as principles and to
act on that basis during the event. I think these only become “assumed” after
some evolution of consciousness and I don’t experience most folks in
organizations being there. I think it is important to articulate them, to influence
the “social construction” of the boundaries of the OST event along with the
most important part – the focus question or theme. Yep, it may be a bit of
ritualized behaviour but I think it helps increase the possibilities what will
emerge in the self-organizing process that will happen anyway. Besides, I (we
as facilitators) are one of the “selves” in the self-organization.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Larry<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Larry Peterson & Associates in Transformation<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Toronto, Ontario, Canada<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><a href="mailto:larry@spiritedorg.com"><u><span
style='color:blue'>larry@spiritedorg.com</span></u></a> 416.653.4829 <a
href="http://www.spiritedorg.com/"><u><span style='color:blue'>http://www.spiritedorg.com</span></u></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Artur Silva<br>
<b>Sent:</b> May-27-09 5:54 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSLIST] Anti Laws of OST - Foundations of OST?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Harrison,
Larry and all:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I
am afraid that I continue to read only the messages from this list from time
to time...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Today,
I read this answer from Harrison to a reply from Larry to an original comment
by Harrison. The 3 messages referred are listed below, and I ask you to </span><b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>first read
the parts of those messages</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> that I have transformed in bold.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>(...)
Thanks for having done that ;-)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Now,
I am happy that Harrison agrees that "</span><b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red'>the 4
principles and one law are neither laws nor principles actually" </span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>and that
</span><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:red'>there will come a day when The Law and The Principles can be
assigned to that wonderful status of “One more thing not to do.”</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>But
Larry commented, very wisely as usual, about </span><b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>the importance of
some form of “boundaries” or “container” for self-organization</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>So,
maybe it is the appropriate time to reintroduce a discussion that I have
tried to introduce many moons ago, about what are the foundations of OST. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I
mean, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>1)
if the principles are not "principles" after all, but only
what always happens, and eventually even "one more thing not to do"
(and I remember you that I have done some OST experiments without reference
to the Principles - and all went well as usual), but</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal> <span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>2)
Some form of boundary or container is needed <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>where
this boundary or container does comes from? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I
have proposed to call that the "foundations" (not principles) of
OST and proposed some ideas (that are only preliminary ideas) I would like to
read (again) your opinions about.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>You
can found my (preliminary) proposals, of some time ago, here <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><a
href="http://www.openspaceworld.org/cgi/netwiki.cgi?FoundationsofOST"><span
lang=EN-US>http://www.openspaceworld.org/cgi/netwiki.cgi?FoundationsofOST</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal> <span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>and
here </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><a
href="http://listserv.boisestate.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0401&L=oslist&P=R23925&I=-3&X=6543D44B5D0A7C3BC4&Y=arturfsilva%40yahoo.com"><span
lang=EN-US>http://listserv.boisestate.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0401&L=oslist&P=R23925&I=-3&X=6543D44B5D0A7C3BC4&Y=arturfsilva%40yahoo.com</span></a></span><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Looking
forward to hear from you all<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Warn
regards from a warm night in Lisbon<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Artur</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
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--- On <b>Wed, 5/27/09, Harrison Owen <i><hhowen@verizon.net></i></b>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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From: Harrison Owen <hhowen@verizon.net><br>
Subject: Re: [OSLIST] Anti Laws of OST<br>
To: OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 7:23 AM<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red'>Right on Larry – and I
found a very curious and embarrassing typo in my small piece. I said, “They
(the Principles and the Law) are descriptive as opposed to descriptive.” I
meant to say,”They are descriptive as opposed to prescriptive.” <strong><span
style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Point is neither the Law nor the
Principles tell you what to do – they simply alert everybody to what will be
taking place no matter what.</span></strong> I think that is a useful
function, <strong><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>but it
really doesn’t change a thing</span></strong>. <strong><span
style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>In short – there will come a day
when The Law and The Principles can be assigned to that wonderful status of
“One more thing not to do.”</span></strong></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red'>Harrison </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red'>Harrison Owen</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>-----Original
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<b>From:</b> OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Larry
Peterson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:44 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Anti Laws of OST</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:36.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>For me, there is more sense in the “Principles and Law” than
non-sense.</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>
Stewart Kauffman explores <strong><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>the
importance of some form of “boundaries” or “container” for self-organization</span></strong>,
particularly that of cells.</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> He
believes (with strong scientific evidence) that <strong><span
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>real physical work only gets done
within some “boundaries” or it dissipates</span></strong>.</span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> Cells, he asserts,
co-create their “boundaries” with their environment through self-organizing
relationships in every moment.</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> The boundaries are permeable, constructs, open to interchange
with their environment. (No such thing as a closed system!)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Harrison, <strong><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I
believe you have articulated a set of socially constructed permeable
“boundaries” for enhancing human self-organization</span></strong> –
including the focus/theme, principles and law.</span><span style='font-size:
11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> These set a temporary set of
“boundaries” or a “container” both focused and open that change the perceived
conditions for self-organization at an event or meeting.</span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> Self-organization
is happening all the time, in every moment.</span><span style='font-size:
11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> Our mental maps (in practice) and
feelings shape what we do as we self-organize – what topics we propose and
who we connect to.</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>
Are they necessary for self-organization (Open Space) – no, it is happening
all the time as order emerges.</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> Do they (<strong><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>or
other similar statements</span></strong> about the social framework for our
self-organizing) help people to self-organize in exciting and creative ways? </span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I think so.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Larry</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Larry Peterson & Associates in Transformation</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Toronto, Ontario, Canada</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><a
href="http://us.mc546.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=larry@spiritedorg.com"
target="_blank"><u><span style='color:blue'>larry@spiritedorg.com</span></u></a></span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>
416.653.4829 <a href="http://www.spiritedorg.com/" target="_blank"><u><span
style='color:blue'>http://www.spiritedorg.com</span></u></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Harrison Owen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> May-25-09 2:59 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSLIST] Anti Laws of OST</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:36.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red'>Just
to render the whole thing non-sensical, <strong><span style='font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif"'>the 4 principles and one law are neither laws nor
principles actually</span></strong>. To be honest <strong><span
style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>they are just my (and others’)
observations of what seemed to be happening in any case</span></strong>. In a
word they are descriptive as opposed to descriptive – You could say it is all
a joke. <strong><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Rather like
“technology” in the phrase Open Space Technology</span></strong>. The joke,
however turned out to be outrageously funny – because somehow or another
truth broke through. We are in serious trouble! Everybody knows that what
happens in Open Space simply can’t happen. Unfortunately it does – and that
makes a joke out of a whole mess of other stuff – like most of what we think
we know about meetings, the management of meetings, and management itself.
Double trouble!!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red'>Harrison</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red'>Harrison
Owen</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red'>7808
River Falls Drive</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p align=center style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-align:center'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red'>Potomac,
Maryland 20854</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p align=center style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-align:center'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red'>Phone
301-365-2093</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red'>Skype
hhowen</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p align=center style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-align:center'><span
style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red'>Open Space Training</span><span
style='color:red'> <a href="http://www.openspaceworld.com/" target="_blank"><u><span
style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>www.openspaceworld.com</span></u></a>
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p align=center style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-align:center'><span
style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red'>Open Space Institute</span><span
style='color:red'> <a href="http://www.openspaceworld.org/" target="_blank"><u><span
style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>www.openspaceworld.org</span></u></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p align=center style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-align:center'><span
style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red'>Personal website</span><span
style='color:red'> <a href="http://www.ho-image.com/" target="_blank"><u><span
style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>www.ho-image.com</span></u></a>
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