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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hi Jack,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Thank you for your critical comments. I think it wise to realize
that clients don’t want self-organization or a specific method, they want
to get a job done. It’s our skill to help find and facilitate an
effective process. For my research project on success factors of large scale interventions
I certainly am going to use the quote <b>That’s all very well in practice
– but will it work in theory? </b>Reminds me of the quote “In
theory there is no difference between theory and practice, in practice there is”
( Yogi Berra or ?, see <a
href="http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?DifferenceBetweenTheoryAndPractice">http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?DifferenceBetweenTheoryAndPractice</a>
). Building bridges between theory and practice is not so easy in scholarly
research, I notice. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>One of the conclusions of my research so far is that of course things
can go wrong if you do not master the technique of Open Space, but one of the most
important success factors in organizations is the play with the client and the
planning team. Expectation management, getting clear what they want to achieve,
talking about the philosophy why this approach will work, negotiating about adequate
conditions, the guts to say no if basic requirements are not met (time is too
short to get the job done, or diversity is too low, no compelling issue, etc.).
Just as in every consultancy process. Maybe this play is less important in
communities where power is more distributed among participants and people are
really free to participate or not? Another success factor turns out to be the
focus on the bigger process, not on the event. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Although I often lack the time to respond, I am learning a lot
from this OSList. Thanks to you all! Let’s celebrate on the 4<sup>th</sup>
of July. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Tonnie<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Van:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <b>Namens </b>Jack Martin Leith<br>
<b>Verzonden:</b> donderdag 28 mei 2009 11:24<br>
<b>Aan:</b> OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b>Onderwerp:</b> [SPAM]Re: [OSLIST] Volunteers and conscripts<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Harrison, thank you for the clarification </span>...
and the birthday date.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I propose that we declare 4 July 2010 (July 4 2020 if you do
it that way round where you live) World Open Space Day, and mark the occasion
in some suitable way. Does anyone have some ideas about how we might do this?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I'll make a post to Osuki - let's see what emerges!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Regarding the 60 minute Open Space that someone mentioned,
I'll describe the way I did it on this list if anyone's interested. The
event was the MIT Entrepreneurship Center (<a
href="http://entrepreneurship.mit.edu/">http://entrepreneurship.mit.edu</a>)
conference that took place in Madrid in May 2008.<o:p></o:p></p>
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Jack<br>
<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal>2009/5/27 Harrison Owen <<a
href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net">hhowen@verizon.net</a>><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red'>Jack I
never said that OS would not work with “conscripts.” I did say that
the result would be less than optimal – and that if one wanted the very
best, voluntary self-selection was essential. At least that has been my
experience so far. In fact Open Space works very effectively in prisons –
where voluntary self-selection is not an ordinary practice. But I cannot
believe that prison life could be confused with optimal human conditions,
although I grant that a number of places of business have much in common with
many prisons. There may be a lack of concertina wire and guard towers, but I
found the atmosphere very much the same. In such places Open Space works as
well, if only because even such miserable excuses for work environments are
also part of this self organizing world. But I think it safe to say that high
levels of performance, creativity, innovation, and the like are not commonly
found. As for the birth date of Open Space Technology – that would
be July the 4<sup>th</sup> weekend in Monterey California. Didn’t think
of it at the time, but in retrospect I find that date marvelously appropriate.
Something about -- Revolution and Freedom (from the Crown). You might say
Voluntary Self-Selection! </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red'> </span><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red'>Harrison</span><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red'> </span><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p align=center style='text-align:center'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red'>Harrison Owen</span><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red'>7808 River Falls Drive</span><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p align=center style='text-align:center'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red'>Potomac,
Maryland 20854</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p align=center style='text-align:center'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red'>Phone 301-365-2093</span><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p align=center style='text-align:center'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red'>Skype hhowen</span><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p align=center style='text-align:center'><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif";color:red'>Open Space Training</span><span lang=EN-US
style='color:red'> <a href="http://www.openspaceworld.com/" target="_blank"><span
style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>www.openspaceworld.com</span></a> </span><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p align=center style='text-align:center'><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif";color:red'>Open Space Institute</span><span lang=EN-US
style='color:red'> <a href="http://www.openspaceworld.org/" target="_blank"><span
style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>www.openspaceworld.org</span></a></span><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p align=center style='text-align:center'><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif";color:red'>Personal website</span><span lang=EN-US
style='color:red'> <a href="http://www.ho-image.com/" target="_blank"><span
style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>www.ho-image.com</span></a> </span><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red'> </span><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b>From:</b> OSLIST [mailto:<a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU"
target="_blank">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jack
Martin Leith<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 27, 2009 12:59 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" target="_blank">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Volunteers and conscripts</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>I've turned Bhav's question and
Harrison's response into a blog post on the Osuki website, and added a comment
of my own.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>Here's the link: <a
href="http://www.osuki.net/?p=913" target="_blank">www.osuki.net/?p=913</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>If you don't want to click on
the link you can see my comment below.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>Harrison and Bhav, I hope it's
OK with you that I've posted this article. I haven't named Bhav. I'll delete
the post if either of you asks me to.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>Warm wishes from Bristol, UK.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US><br clear=all>
Jack<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>P.S. Harrison, can you please
remind us of the exact date of the 25th birthday of Open Space?<br>
<br>
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Innovation Next : An emerging hub for innovation next practice<br>
Bristol, United Kingdom<br>
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<p style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>---------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US><a
href="http://www.osuki.net/?p=913#comments" target="_blank">http://www.osuki.net/?p=913#comments</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>While I agree with pretty much
everything Harrison says here, in the 20 years that I’ve been working
professionally with Open Space Technology, I can’t think of a single
client that was seeking to create a self-organising system. They simply wanted
to get a job done, and OST was the chosen tool.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>Many of the Open Space events
I’ve co-designed and facilitated were not organised on a voluntary
participation basis, yet the respective clients were happy with the results. Would
voluntary participation have bettered these results? Maybe … maybe not.
We’ll never know.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>What’s beyond doubt is
that OST is a very robust process that can be effective even when prevailing
thinking suggests it’s doomed to failure.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>In the early 1990s I
co-facilitated, with <a href="http://www.osuki.net/?page_id=530" target="_blank"><span
style='color:#336600'>Mo Cohen </span></a>of this parish, a two-day Open Space
event for the change management practice of a large management consulting firm.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>The client had a hidden agenda
that was shockingly revealed at the end of the first day of a two-day Open
Space event. The secret plan was a radical reorganisation of the change
management practice that would have a big impact on everyone in the room.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>At the start of the second day
the participants, conscripts one and all, binned their agenda and created a new
one focused on the implications of the reorganisation.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>My friend and collaborator <a
href="http://www.osuki.net/?page_id=126" target="_blank"><span
style='color:#336600'>Jean-Marc Le Tissier</span></a> (also of this parish) was
an employee of the consulting firm and a participant in the event. Whenever we
recollect those two days we agree that Open Space was the right tool for the
job. It shouldn’t have worked – but it did.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'>
<p style='margin-left:36.0pt'><strong><span lang=EN-US>That’s all very
well in practice – but will it work in theory?</span></strong><b><span
lang=EN-US><br>
</span></b><em><span lang=EN-US>Unknown</span></em><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</blockquote>
<p style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>Open Space is an extremely
resilient 24 year old. Let’s start planning the 25th birthday
celebrations (early July 2010) now!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>---------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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