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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: PT"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: PT">Today, I read this answer from Harrison to a reply from Larry to an original comment by Harrison. The 3 messages referred are listed below, and I ask you to </SPAN><B><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: PT; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt">first read the parts of those messages</SPAN></B><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: PT"> that I have transformed in bold.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: PT">Now, I am happy that Harrison agrees that "</SPAN><B><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: PT; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt">the 4 principles and one law are neither laws nor principles actually" </SPAN></B><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: PT">and that </SPAN><B><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: PT;
mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt">there will come a day when The Law and The Principles can be assigned to that wonderful status of “One more thing not to do.”</SPAN></B><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: PT"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: PT">But Larry commented, very wisely as usual, about </SPAN><B><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: #1f497d; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: PT; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial"><FONT face=Calibri>the importance of some form of “boundaries” or “container” for self-organization</FONT></SPAN></B><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: PT">. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: PT"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: PT">So, maybe it is the appropriate time to reintroduce a discussion that I have tried to introduce many moons ago, about what are the foundations of OST. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: PT"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: PT"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: PT">1) if the principles are not "principles" after all, but only what always happens, and eventually even "one more thing not to do" (and I remember you that I have done some OST experiments without reference to the Principles - and all went well as usual), but</SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: PT"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: PT">where this boundary or container does comes from? <o:p></o:p></SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: PT"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: PT">I have proposed to call that the "foundations" (not principles) of OST and proposed some ideas (that are only preliminary ideas) I would like to read (again) your opinions about.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><BR><BR>--- On <B>Wed, 5/27/09, Harrison Owen <I><hhowen@verizon.net></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid"><BR>From: Harrison Owen <hhowen@verizon.net><BR>Subject: Re: [OSLIST] Anti Laws of OST<BR>To: OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<BR>Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 7:23 AM<BR><BR>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=red size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Right on Larry – and I found a very curious and embarrassing typo in my small piece. I said, “They (the Principles and the Law) are descriptive as opposed to descriptive.” I meant to say,”They are descriptive as opposed to prescriptive.” <STRONG>Point is neither the Law nor the Principles tell you what to do – they simply alert everybody to what will be taking place no matter what.</STRONG> I think that is a useful function, <STRONG>but it really doesn’t change a thing</STRONG>. <STRONG>In short – there will come a day when The Law and The Principles can be assigned to that wonderful status of “One more thing not to do.”</STRONG></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Larry Peterson<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:44 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: Anti Laws of OST</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Calibri color=#1f497d size=2><SPAN lang=EN-CA style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">For me, there is more sense in the “Principles and Law” than non-sense.</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=#1f497d size=2><SPAN lang=EN-CA style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Calibri color=#1f497d size=2><SPAN lang=EN-CA style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"> Stewart Kauffman explores <STRONG>the importance of some form of “boundaries” or “container” for self-organization</STRONG>, particularly that of cells.</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=#1f497d size=2><SPAN lang=EN-CA style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Calibri color=#1f497d size=2><SPAN lang=EN-CA style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"> He believes (with strong scientific evidence) that <STRONG>real physical work only gets done
within some “boundaries” or it dissipates</STRONG>.</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=#1f497d size=2><SPAN lang=EN-CA style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Calibri color=#1f497d size=2><SPAN lang=EN-CA style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"> Cells, he asserts, co-create their “boundaries” with their environment through self-organizing relationships in every moment.</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=#1f497d size=2><SPAN lang=EN-CA style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Calibri color=#1f497d size=2><SPAN lang=EN-CA style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"> The boundaries are permeable, constructs, open to interchange with their environment. (No such thing as a closed system!)</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Calibri color=#1f497d size=2><SPAN lang=EN-CA style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">Harrison, <STRONG>I believe you have articulated a set of socially constructed permeable “boundaries” for enhancing human self-organization</STRONG> – including the focus/theme, principles and law.</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=#1f497d size=2><SPAN lang=EN-CA style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Calibri color=#1f497d size=2><SPAN lang=EN-CA style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"> These set a temporary set of “boundaries” or a “container” both focused and open that change the perceived conditions for self-organization at an event or meeting.</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=#1f497d size=2><SPAN lang=EN-CA style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Calibri color=#1f497d size=2><SPAN lang=EN-CA
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"> Self-organization is happening all the time, in every moment.</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=#1f497d size=2><SPAN lang=EN-CA style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Calibri color=#1f497d size=2><SPAN lang=EN-CA style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"> Our mental maps (in practice) and feelings shape what we do as we self-organize – what topics we propose and who we connect to.</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=#1f497d size=2><SPAN lang=EN-CA style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Calibri color=#1f497d size=2><SPAN lang=EN-CA style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"> Are they necessary for self-organization (Open Space) – no, it is happening all the time as order emerges.</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=#1f497d size=2><SPAN lang=EN-CA style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Calibri color=#1f497d size=2><SPAN lang=EN-CA style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"> Do they (<STRONG>or other similar statements</STRONG> about the social framework for our self-organizing) help people to self-organize in exciting and creative ways? </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=#1f497d size=2><SPAN lang=EN-CA style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Calibri color=#1f497d size=2><SPAN lang=EN-CA style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">I think so.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Harrison Owen<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> May-25-09 2:59 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [OSLIST] Anti Laws of OST</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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