Dear Harrison and friends,<br><br>My Boss raised an interesting question and I would love to hear your experience on this issue.<br><br>He cited the Boeing doors example and then challenged the idea of INVITATION. He said in a business organisation, some key people just have to be there, they can't have a choice about coming.<br>
<br>So I explained to him that in the Pre-OST stage, there is a lot of work done with the Sponsor group looking at questions like that, however ultimately people must individually choose to be there or not.<br><br>So then he said well what if in the Boeing example, one of the key technicians, essential for the whole process, decided not to turn up because he had booked a holiday and just didn't want to miss it.<br>
<br>This does raise an interesting question about whether people can really be free to choose.<br><br>PLEASE PLEASE share your experiences with me because having facilitated a number of OSTs, I am convinced about how it works, and the also the deeper aspects that emerge from it.<br>
<br>Thanks Bhav...<br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2009/5/26 OSLIST automatic digest system <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:LISTSERV@listserv.boisestate.edu">LISTSERV@listserv.boisestate.edu</a>></span><br>
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Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 17:29:13 +1000
From: Andrew Rixon
Subject: Re: anti laws
Ah yes, I never cease to marvel at the opportunities we have to "live
vicariously through others". :)
Warm regards,
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andrew and all,
i've sometimes pondered the "Low of too feat":
Others take responsibility for what *I* love as an act of service or
If I'm neither learning nor contributing everyone else should leave ...
and by extension-- bumblebees are those who go and sting others in as many
groups as possible.
and butterflies?
yes, it does jangle the senses a little bit...but perhaps something to bee
desired from thyme to thyme?
wormly,
wroffi
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Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 14:43:33 +0100
From: Derrick Mathews
Subject: Re: Anti Laws of OST
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Hi Andrew
I am unsure if you can have anti laws with regard to the principles.
First of all the process is based on "SELF" (the most important concept
here)-organisation which involved participation or non-participation which
involves human choice. Even if you adopt a Doris Day approach (Que Serra,
Serra, whatever will be, will be, the future's not ours to see, que serra,
serra, am I giving my age away knowing this song lol) your choice to let
things happen is an intervention and so you have influenced the process
making what happens the only thing that could have.
If you do not turn up then you have had an influence of non-influence on
the process and outcome so you have been involved and have been part of the
right people.
What ever happens is the only thing as if you are "involved" your
involvement changes the dynamic and outcome, likewise if you are "involved"
via no-involvement you affect the dynamic in a different way and as I stated
above what then happens is the only thing that could have.
Likewise when it starts is because someone made a choice to start it and you
are "involved" or "not" which still has impact and similarly it's over
because there is a choice made that it is over via group consensus or an
individual's choice that for them it is over.
Everything is in some way linked and interdependent and what we choose to do
or not do, ripples out to affect all around us.
We just need to always endeavour to impact in a positive way.
Anyhoo, hope this adds to the confusion.
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And on another thread, where are the most unusual places that folks know OST
has happened?
I recently had the pleasure of opening space for a great group of young
people (that's anyone younger than me) from about 9 different parts of
Europe who had come together In Londonderry to be involved in an Up-cycling
project of Trash to Treasure which also involved a 1 day OS.
One participant selected the swimming pool as an additional breakout space
and it was one of the best attended sessions with the details of the
conversation recorded at the side of the pool by anyone out of the water.
Maybe the fifth unspoken principle is;
Where ever it happens is the right place/only place it could have happened
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Rixon
Sent: 24 May 2009 02:10
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Subject: Anti Laws of OST
Dear All,
Recently I've been pondering / wondering about what might be the Anti-laws
of OST.
For instance.
"What isn't happening are all the things that should be"
Or
"What didn't happen are all the things that should have"
As opposed to.
"Whatever happens is the only thing that could have or did"
What are your thoughts on other "complimentary" anti-laws? :-)
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<div dir="3Dltr" align="3Dleft"><b><font face="3DArial">Hi Andrew</font></b></div>
<div dir="3Dltr" align="3Dleft"><b><font face="3DArial"></font></b> </div>
<div dir="3Dltr" align="3Dleft"><b><font face="3DArial">I am unsure if you can have anti laws with =
regard to=20
the principles.</font></b></div>
<div dir="3Dltr" align="3Dleft"><b><font face="3DArial"></font></b> </div>
<div dir="3Dltr" align="3Dleft"><font color="#3d000f" face="3DArial"><b>First of all the process is based on =
"SELF"=20
(the most important concept here)-organisation which involved =
participation or=20
non-participation which involves human choice. Even if you adopt a =
Doris=20
Day approach (Que Serra, Serra, whatever will be, will be, the future's =
not ours=20
to see, que serra, serra, am I giving my age away knowing this song lol) =
your=20
choice to let things happen is an intervention and so you have =
influenced the=20
process making what happens the only thing that could=20
have.</b></font></div>
<div dir="3Dltr" align="3Dleft"><font color="#3d000f" face="3DArial"><b></b></font> </div>
<div dir="3Dltr" align="3Dleft"><font color="#3d000f" face="3DArial"><b>If you do not turn up then you have =
had an=20
influence of non-influence on the process and outcome so you have =
been=20
involved and have been part of the right =
people.</b></font></div>
<div dir="3Dltr" align="3Dleft"><font color="#3d000f" face="3DArial"><b></b></font> </div>
<div dir="3Dltr" align="3Dleft"><font color="#3d000f" face="3DArial"><b>What ever happens is the only thing =
as if you=20
are "involved" your involvement changes the dynamic and outcome, =
likewise if you=20
are "involved" via no-involvement you affect the dynamic in a different =
way and=20
as I stated above what then happens is the only thing that could=20
have.</b></font></div>
<div dir="3Dltr" align="3Dleft"><font color="#3d000f" face="3DArial"><b></b></font> </div>
<div dir="3Dltr" align="3Dleft"><font color="#3d000f" face="3DArial"><b>Likewise when it starts is because =
someone made=20
a choice to start it and you are "involved" or "not" which still has =
impact and=20
similarly it's over because there is a choice made that it is over via =
group=20
consensus or an individual's choice that for them it is=20
over.</b></font></div>
<div dir="3Dltr" align="3Dleft"><font color="#3d000f" face="3DArial"><b></b></font> </div>
<div dir="3Dltr" align="3Dleft"><font color="#3d000f" face="3DArial"><b>Everything is in some way linked and=20
interdependent and what we choose to do or not do, ripples out to affect =
all=20
around us.</b></font></div>
<div dir="3Dltr" align="3Dleft"><font color="#3d000f" face="3DArial"><b></b></font> </div>
<div dir="3Dltr" align="3Dleft"><font color="#3d000f" face="3DArial"><b>We just need to always endeavour to =
impact in a=20
positive way.</b></font></div>
<div dir="3Dltr" align="3Dleft"><font color="#3d000f" face="3DArial"><b></b></font> </div>
<div dir="3Dltr" align="3Dleft"><font color="#3d000f" face="3DArial"><b>Anyhoo, hope this adds to the=20
confusion.</b></font></div>
<div dir="3Dltr" align="3Dleft"><font color="#3d000f" face="3DArial"><b></b></font> </div>
<div dir="3Dltr" align="3Dleft"><font color="#3d000f" face="3DArial"><b> =20
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----------------------------------------------</b></font>
<div dir="3Dltr" align="3Dleft"><font color="#3d000f" face="3DArial"><b>And on another thread, where are the =
most=20
unusual places that folks know OST has=20
happened?</b></font></div>
<div dir="3Dltr" align="3Dleft"><font color="#3d000f" face="3DArial"><b></b></font> </div>
<div dir="3Dltr" align="3Dleft"><font color="#3d000f" face="3DArial"><b>I recently had the pleasure of =
opening space=20
for a great group of young people (that's anyone younger than me) =
from =20
about 9 different parts of Europe who had come together In Londonderry =
to be=20
involved in an Up-cycling project of Trash to Treasure which also =
involved a 1=20
day OS. </b></font></div>
<div dir="3Dltr" align="3Dleft"><font color="#3d000f" face="3DArial"><b></b></font> </div>
<div dir="3Dltr" align="3Dleft"><font color="#3d000f" face="3DArial"><b>One participant selected the swimming =
pool as=20
an additional breakout space and it was one of the best attended =
sessions with=20
the details of the conversation recorded at the side of the pool by =
anyone out=20
of the water.</b></font></div>
<div dir="3Dltr" align="3Dleft"><font color="#3d000f" face="3DArial"><b></b></font> </div>
<div dir="3Dltr" align="3Dleft"><font color="#3d000f" face="3DArial"><b>Maybe the fifth unspoken principle=20
is;</b></font></div>
<div dir="3Dltr" align="3Dleft"><font color="#3d000f" face="3DArial"><b>Where ever it happens is the right =
place/only=20
place it could have happened</b></font></div>
<div><b><font face="3DArial"></font></b> </div>
<div align="3Dleft"><b><font face="3DArial"></font></b> </div>
<div align="3Dleft"><font face="3DArial"><b>Regards</b></font></div>
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<font size="3D2" face="3DTahoma"><b>From:</b> OSLIST=20
[mailto:<a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrew=20
Rixon<br><b>Sent:</b> 24 May 2009 02:10<br><b>To:</b>=20
<a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Anti Laws of=20
OST<br></font><br></div>
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<p class="3DMsoNormal"><font size="3D2" face="3DArial">Dear=20
All,</font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal"><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"> </font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal"><font size="3D2" face="3DArial">Recently I’ve been =
pondering /=20
wondering about what might be the Anti-laws of =
OST.</font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal"><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"> </font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal"><font size="3D2" face="3DArial">For=20
instance.</font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal"><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"> </font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal"><font size="3D2" face="3DArial">“What isn’t =
happening are all the=20
things that should be”</font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal"><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"> </font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal"><font size="3D2" face="3DArial">Or</font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal"><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"> </font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal"><font size="3D2" face="3DArial">“What didn’t =
happen are all the=20
things that should have”</font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal"><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"> </font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal"><font size="3D2" face="3DArial">As opposed=20
to…</font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal"><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"> </font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal"><font size="3D2" face="3DArial">“Whatever happens is =
the only thing=20
that could have or did”</font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal"><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"> </font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal"><font size="3D2" face="3DArial">What are your thoughts on =
other=20
“complimentary” anti-laws? </font><font size="3D2">J</font><font size="3D2"></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal"><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"> </font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal"><font size="3D2" face="3DArial">Warm=20
regards,</font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal"><font size="3D2" face="3DArial">Andrew</font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal"><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"> </font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal"><font size="3D2" face="3DArial">--</font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal"><font size="3D2" face="3DArial">Andrew Rixon=20
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Just to render the whole thing non-sensical, the 4 principles and one =
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are neither laws nor principles actually. To be honest they are just my =
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word
they are descriptive as opposed to descriptive - You could say it is all =
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Mathews
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 9:44 AM
To: <a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a>
Subject: Re: Anti Laws of OST
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Hi Andrew
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I am unsure if you can have anti laws with regard to the principles.
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First of all the process is based on "SELF" (the most important concept
here)-organisation which involved participation or non-participation =
which
involves human choice. Even if you adopt a Doris Day approach (Que =
Serra,
Serra, whatever will be, will be, the future's not ours to see, que =
serra,
serra, am I giving my age away knowing this song lol) your choice to let
things happen is an intervention and so you have influenced the process
making what happens the only thing that could have.
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If you do not turn up then you have had an influence of non-influence =
on
the process and outcome so you have been involved and have been part of =
the
right people.
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What ever happens is the only thing as if you are "involved" your
involvement changes the dynamic and outcome, likewise if you are =
"involved"
via no-involvement you affect the dynamic in a different way and as I =
stated
above what then happens is the only thing that could have.
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Likewise when it starts is because someone made a choice to start it and =
you
are "involved" or "not" which still has impact and similarly it's over
because there is a choice made that it is over via group consensus or an
individual's choice that for them it is over.
=20
Everything is in some way linked and interdependent and what we choose =
to do
or not do, ripples out to affect all around us.
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We just need to always endeavour to impact in a positive way.
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Anyhoo, hope this adds to the confusion.
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Maybe the fifth unspoken principle is;
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To: <a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a>
Subject: Anti Laws of OST
Dear All,
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Recently I've been pondering / wondering about what might be the =
Anti-laws
of OST.
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For instance.
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"What isn't happening are all the things that should be"
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Or
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"What didn't happen are all the things that should have"
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As opposed to.
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"Whatever happens is the only thing that could have or did"
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What are your thoughts on other "complimentary" anti-laws? :-)
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<p class="3DMsoNormal"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3" face="3DArial"><span>Just to render the whole thing =
non-sensical,
the 4 principles and one law are neither laws nor principles actually. =
To be
honest they are just my (and others’) observations of what seemed =
to be
happening in any case. In a word they are descriptive as opposed to =
descriptive
– You could say it is all a joke. Rather like =
“technology” in
the phrase Open Space Technology. The joke, however turned out to be
outrageously funny – because somehow or another truth broke =
through. We
are in serious trouble! Everybody knows that what happens in Open Space =
simply
can’t happen. Unfortunately it does – and that makes a joke =
out of
a whole mess of other stuff – like most of what we think we know =
about
meetings, the management of meetings, and management itself. Double =
trouble!!</span></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3" face="3DArial"><span> </span></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3" face="3DArial"><span>Harrison</span></font></p>
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<b><span style="">From:</span></b> OSLIST
[mailto:<a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a>] <b><span>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Derrick Mathews<br>
<b><span style="">Sent:</span></b> Monday, May 25, =
2009 9:44 AM<br>
<b><span style="">To:</span></b> =
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OST</span></font></font></p>
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<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font color="#3db00e" face="3DArial"><span>Hi Andrew</span></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><font size="3D3"><span style=""> </span></font></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font color="#3db00e" face="3DArial"><span>I am
unsure if you can have anti laws with regard to the =
principles.</span></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><font size="3D3"><span style=""> </span></font></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font color="#3db00e" face="3DArial"><span>First of
all the process is based on "SELF" (the most important concept
here)-organisation which involved participation or non-participation =
which
involves human choice. Even if you adopt a Doris Day approach (Que =
Serra,
Serra, whatever will be, will be, the future's not ours to see, que =
serra,
serra, am I giving my age away knowing this song lol) your choice to let =
things
happen is an intervention and so you have influenced the process making =
what
happens the only thing that could have.</span></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><font size="3D3"><span style=""> </span></font></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font color="#3db00e" face="3DArial"><span>If you
do not turn up then you have had an influence of non-influence on =
the
process and outcome so you have been involved and have been part of the =
right
people.</span></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><font size="3D3"><span style=""> </span></font></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font color="#3db00e" face="3DArial"><span>What
ever happens is the only thing as if you are "involved" your
involvement changes the dynamic and outcome, likewise if you are
"involved" via no-involvement you affect the dynamic in a =
different
way and as I stated above what then happens is the only thing that could =
have.</span></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><font size="3D3"><span style=""> </span></font></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font color="#3db00e" face="3DArial"><span>Likewise
when it starts is because someone made a choice to start it and you are
"involved" or "not" which still has impact and =
similarly
it's over because there is a choice made that it is over via group =
consensus or
an individual's choice that for them it is =
over.</span></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><font size="3D3"><span style=""> </span></font></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font color="#3db00e" face="3DArial"><span>Everything
is in some way linked and interdependent and what we choose to do or not =
do,
ripples out to affect all around us.</span></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><font size="3D3"><span style=""> </span></font></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font color="#3db00e" face="3DArial"><span>We just
need to always endeavour to impact in a positive =
way.</span></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><font size="3D3"><span style=""> </span></font></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font color="#3db00e" face="3DArial"><span>Anyhoo,
hope this adds to the confusion.</span></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><font size="3D3"><span style=""> </span></font></font></p>
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<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font color="#3db00e" face="3DArial"><span>And on
another thread, where are the most unusual places that folks know =
OST has
happened?</span></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><font size="3D3"><span style=""> </span></font></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font color="#3db00e" face="3DArial"><span>I
recently had the pleasure of opening space for a great group of young =
people
(that's anyone younger than me) from about 9 different parts of =
Europe
who had come together In Londonderry to be involved in an Up-cycling =
project of
Trash to Treasure which also involved a 1 day OS. =
</span></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><font size="3D3"><span style=""> </span></font></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font color="#3db00e" face="3DArial"><span>One
participant selected the swimming pool as an additional breakout space =
and it
was one of the best attended sessions with the details of the =
conversation
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water.</span></font></b></b></font></p>
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<p class="3DMsoNormal"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><b><font size="3D2" face="3DTahoma"><span>From:</span></font></b><font size="3D2"><span style=""> OSLIST
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<b><span style="">Sent:</span></b> 24 May 2009 =
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<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font size="3D2"><span style="">Dear All,</span></font></font></b></b></font></p>
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<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font size="3D2"><span style="">Recently I’ve been =
pondering /
wondering about what might be the Anti-laws of OST.</span></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font size="3D2"><span style=""> </span></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font size="3D2"><span style="">For =
instance.</span></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font size="3D2"><span style=""> </span></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font size="3D2"><span style="">“What isn’t =
happening
are all the things that should be”</span></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font size="3D2"><span style=""> </span></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font size="3D2"><span style="">Or</span></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font size="3D2"><span style=""> </span></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font size="3D2"><span style="">“What didn’t =
happen are
all the things that should have”</span></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font size="3D2"><span style=""> </span></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font size="3D2"><span style="">As opposed =
to…</span></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font size="3D2"><span style=""> </span></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font size="3D2"><span style="">“Whatever happens is =
the only
thing that could have or did”</span></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font size="3D2"><span style=""> </span></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font size="3D2"><span style="">What are your thoughts on =
other
“complimentary” anti-laws? </span></font><font size="3D2" face="3DWingdings"><span>J</span></font></font></b></b></font></p>
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<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font size="3D2"><span style="">Warm =
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Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 09:23:50 +1000
From: Andrew Rixon
Subject: Re: Anti Laws of OST
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Thanks Harrison.
I must confess that my interest really isn't in whether the 4 principles are
principles or laws.
Having recently read Phil Zimbardo's time paradox I couldn't but help to see
how all 4 "principles" seem to relate to time.
One of Zimbardo's interesting writings is around how we (often without
knowing it) carry around with us a time perspective. The time perspectives
he talks about are:
1. Future (The well known westerner approach to planning and all things
about the future)
2. Present Hedonistic (Make the most of now)
3. Present Fatalistic (It's going to happen anyway)
4. Past Positive (Gratitude)
5. Past Negative (Woe to me)
Which time perspective would you choose to help you be most "healthy" ?
Zimbardo's answer is we (especially in the west) need to be Highly Past
Positive.
You can even do your own assessment of what time zone you're living in here:
<a href="http://www.thetimeparadox.com/">http://www.thetimeparadox.com/</a>
Know any jokes about time? :-)
Warm regards,
Andrew
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From: OSLIST [mailto:<a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a>] On Behalf Of Harrison
Owen
Sent: Tuesday, 26 May 2009 4:59 AM
To: <a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a>
Subject: Re: [OSLIST] Anti Laws of OST
Just to render the whole thing non-sensical, the 4 principles and one law
are neither laws nor principles actually. To be honest they are just my (and
others') observations of what seemed to be happening in any case. In a word
they are descriptive as opposed to descriptive - You could say it is all a
joke. Rather like "technology" in the phrase Open Space Technology. The
joke, however turned out to be outrageously funny - because somehow or
another truth broke through. We are in serious trouble! Everybody knows that
what happens in Open Space simply can't happen. Unfortunately it does - and
that makes a joke out of a whole mess of other stuff - like most of what we
think we know about meetings, the management of meetings, and management
itself. Double trouble!!
Harrison
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From: OSLIST [mailto:<a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a>] On Behalf Of Derrick
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Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 9:44 AM
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Subject: Re: Anti Laws of OST
Hi Andrew
I am unsure if you can have anti laws with regard to the principles.
First of all the process is based on "SELF" (the most important concept
here)-organisation which involved participation or non-participation which
involves human choice. Even if you adopt a Doris Day approach (Que Serra,
Serra, whatever will be, will be, the future's not ours to see, que serra,
serra, am I giving my age away knowing this song lol) your choice to let
things happen is an intervention and so you have influenced the process
making what happens the only thing that could have.
If you do not turn up then you have had an influence of non-influence on
the process and outcome so you have been involved and have been part of the
right people.
What ever happens is the only thing as if you are "involved" your
involvement changes the dynamic and outcome, likewise if you are "involved"
via no-involvement you affect the dynamic in a different way and as I stated
above what then happens is the only thing that could have.
Likewise when it starts is because someone made a choice to start it and you
are "involved" or "not" which still has impact and similarly it's over
because there is a choice made that it is over via group consensus or an
individual's choice that for them it is over.
Everything is in some way linked and interdependent and what we choose to do
or not do, ripples out to affect all around us.
We just need to always endeavour to impact in a positive way.
Anyhoo, hope this adds to the confusion.
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And on another thread, where are the most unusual places that folks know OST
has happened?
I recently had the pleasure of opening space for a great group of young
people (that's anyone younger than me) from about 9 different parts of
Europe who had come together In Londonderry to be involved in an Up-cycling
project of Trash to Treasure which also involved a 1 day OS.
One participant selected the swimming pool as an additional breakout space
and it was one of the best attended sessions with the details of the
conversation recorded at the side of the pool by anyone out of the water.
Maybe the fifth unspoken principle is;
Where ever it happens is the right place/only place it could have happened
Regards
Derrick
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From: OSLIST [mailto:<a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a>] On Behalf Of Andrew
Rixon
Sent: 24 May 2009 02:10
To: <a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a>
Subject: Anti Laws of OST
Dear All,
Recently I've been pondering / wondering about what might be the Anti-laws
of OST.
For instance.
"What isn't happening are all the things that should be"
Or
"What didn't happen are all the things that should have"
As opposed to.
"Whatever happens is the only thing that could have or did"
What are your thoughts on other "complimentary" anti-laws? :-)
Warm regards,
Andrew
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<p class="3DMsoNormal"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0a00" size="3D2" face="3DArial"><span>Thanks Harrison.</span></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0a00" size="3D2" face="3DArial"><span> </span></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0a00" size="3D2" face="3DArial"><span>I must confess that my interest =
really isn’t
in whether the 4 principles are principles or =
laws.</span></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0a00" size="3D2" face="3DArial"><span> </span></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0a00" size="3D2" face="3DArial"><span>Having recently read Phil =
Zimbardo’s
time paradox I couldn’t but help to see how all 4 =
“principles”
seem to relate to time.</span></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0a00" size="3D2" face="3DArial"><span> </span></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0a00" size="3D2" face="3DArial"><span>One of Zimbardo’s interesting
writings is around how we (often without knowing it) carry around with =
us a
time perspective. The time perspectives he talks about are:<br>
<br>
</span></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<ol style="" start="3D1" type="3D1">
<font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"> <li class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0a00" size="3D2" face="3DArial"><span>Future
(The well known westerner approach to planning and all things about =
the
future)</span></font></li>
<li class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0a00" size="3D2" face="3DArial"><span>Present
Hedonistic (Make the most of now)</span></font></li>
<li class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0a00" size="3D2" face="3DArial"><span>Present
Fatalistic (It’s going to happen =
anyway)</span></font></li>
<li class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0a00" size="3D2" face="3DArial"><span>Past
Positive (Gratitude)</span></font></li>
<li class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0a00" size="3D2" face="3DArial"><span>Past
Negative (Woe to me)</span></font></li>
</font></b></b></font></ol>
<p class="3DMsoNormal"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0a00" size="3D2" face="3DArial"><span> </span></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0a00" size="3D2" face="3DArial"><span>Which time perspective would you =
choose to
help you be most “healthy” ?</span></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0a00" size="3D2" face="3DArial"><span> </span></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0a00" size="3D2" face="3DArial"><span>Zimbardo’s answer is we =
(especially
in the west) need to be Highly Past =
Positive.</span></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0a00" size="3D2" face="3DArial"><span> </span></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0a00" size="3D2" face="3DArial"><span>You can even do your own assessment =
of
what time zone you’re living in here:<br>
<br>
</span></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0a00" size="3D2" face="3DArial"><span><a>http://www.thetimeparadox.com/
</a></span><a></a></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><a><font color="#3d0a00" size="3D2" face="3DArial"><span> </span></font></a></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><a><font color="#3d0a00" size="3D2" face="3DArial"><span>Know any jokes about time? =
</span></font><font color="#3d0a00" size="3D2" face="3DWingdings"><span>J</span></font><font color="#3d0a00" size="3D2"><span style=""></span></font></a></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><a><font color="#3d0a00" size="3D2" face="3DArial"><span> </span></font></a></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><a><font color="#3d0a00" size="3D2" face="3DArial"><span>Warm =
regards,</span></font></a></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><a><font color="#3d0a00" size="3D2" face="3DArial"><span>Andrew</span></font></a></font></b></b></font></p>
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<p class="3DMsoNormal"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><a><font color="#3d0a00" size="3D2" face="3DArial"><span>Andrew Rixon PhD<br>
Director<br>
Babel Fish Group Pty Ltd<br>
Skype: AndrewJRixon<br>
Mobile: 0400 352 809<br>
Fax: (03) 8610 0162</span></font><font color="#3d0a00"><span> </span></font><font color="#3d0a00" size="3D2" face="3DArial"><span><br>
Email: </span></font></a><font color="#3d0a00" size="3D2" face="3DArial"><a>andrew@babelfishgroup.com</a>
URL: <a>http://www.babelfishgroup.com/</a><a></a></font><a><font color="#3d0a00"><span style=""></span></font></a></font></b></b></font></p>
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Interested in Story and Narrative? Be sure not to miss our national =
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<p class="3DMsoNormal"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><b><font size="3D2" face="3DTahoma"><span>From:</span></font></b><font face="3DTahoma"><span style=""> =
OSLIST [mailto:<a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a>]
<b><span style="">On Behalf Of </span></b>Harrison =
Owen<br>
<b><span style="">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, 26 May =
2009 4:59 AM<br>
<b><span style="">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a><br>
<b><span style="">Subject:</span></b> Re: =
[OSLIST] Anti Laws of =
OST</span></font></font></b></b></font></p>
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<p class="3DMsoNormal"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3" face="3DArial"><span>Just to render the whole thing
non-sensical, the 4 principles and one law are neither laws nor =
principles
actually. To be honest they are just my (and others’) observations =
of
what seemed to be happening in any case. In a word they are descriptive =
as
opposed to descriptive – You could say it is all a joke. Rather =
like
“technology” in the phrase Open Space Technology. The joke, =
however
turned out to be outrageously funny – because somehow or another =
truth
broke through. We are in serious trouble! Everybody knows that what =
happens in
Open Space simply can’t happen. Unfortunately it does – and =
that
makes a joke out of a whole mess of other stuff – like most of =
what we
think we know about meetings, the management of meetings, and management =
itself.
Double trouble!!</span></font></font></b></b></font></p>
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<p class="3DMsoNormal"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><span>Harrison</span></font></font></b></b></font></p>
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<p class="3DMsoNormal"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3" face="3DArial"><span> </span></font></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><font size="3D2"><span style="">-----Original =
Message-----<br>
<b><span style="">From:</span></b> OSLIST
[mailto:<a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a>]
<b><span style="">On Behalf Of </span></b>Derrick =
Mathews<br>
<b><span style="">Sent:</span></b> Monday, May 25, =
2009 9:44 AM<br>
<b><span style="">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a><br>
<b><span style="">Subject:</span></b> Re: Anti Laws of =
OST</span></font></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><font size="3D3" face="3D"Times"><span> </span></font></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font color="#3db00e" face="3DArial"><span>Hi Andrew</span></font></b></b></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><font size="3D3" face="3D"Times"><span> </span></font></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font color="#3db00e" face="3DArial"><span>I am unsure if you can have anti laws with regard to the
principles.</span></font></b></b></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><font size="3D3" face="3D"Times"><span> </span></font></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font color="#3db00e" face="3DArial"><span>First of all the process is based on "SELF" (the =
most
important concept here)-organisation which involved participation or =
non-participation
which involves human choice. Even if you adopt a Doris Day =
approach (Que
Serra, Serra, whatever will be, will be, the future's not ours to see, =
que
serra, serra, am I giving my age away knowing this song lol) your choice =
to let
things happen is an intervention and so you have influenced the process =
making
what happens the only thing that could =
have.</span></font></b></b></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><font size="3D3" face="3D"Times"><span> </span></font></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font color="#3db00e" face="3DArial"><span>If you do not turn up then you have had an influence =
of
non-influence on the process and outcome so you have been involved and =
have
been part of the right people.</span></font></b></b></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><font size="3D3" face="3D"Times"><span> </span></font></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font color="#3db00e" face="3DArial"><span>What ever happens is the only thing as if you are
"involved" your involvement changes the dynamic and outcome, =
likewise
if you are "involved" via no-involvement you affect the =
dynamic in a
different way and as I stated above what then happens is the only thing =
that
could have.</span></font></b></b></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><font size="3D3" face="3D"Times"><span> </span></font></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font color="#3db00e" face="3DArial"><span>Likewise when it starts is because someone made a choice to =
start
it and you are "involved" or "not" which still has =
impact
and similarly it's over because there is a choice made that it is over =
via
group consensus or an individual's choice that for them it is =
over.</span></font></b></b></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><font size="3D3" face="3D"Times"><span> </span></font></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font color="#3db00e" face="3DArial"><span>Everything is in some way linked and interdependent and what =
we
choose to do or not do, ripples out to affect all around =
us.</span></font></b></b></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><font size="3D3" face="3D"Times"><span> </span></font></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font color="#3db00e" face="3DArial"><span>We just need to always endeavour to impact in a positive =
way.</span></font></b></b></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><font size="3D3" face="3D"Times"><span> </span></font></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font color="#3db00e" face="3DArial"><span>Anyhoo, hope this adds to the =
confusion.</span></font></b></b></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><font size="3D3" face="3D"Times"><span> </span></font></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font color="#3db00e" face="3DArial"><span>
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</font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font color="#3db00e" face="3DArial"><span>And on another thread, where are the most unusual =
places that
folks know OST has happened?</span></font></b></b></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><font size="3D3" face="3D"Times"><span> </span></font></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font color="#3db00e" face="3DArial"><span>I recently had the pleasure of opening space for a great =
group of
young people (that's anyone younger than me) from about 9 =
different parts
of Europe who had come together In Londonderry to be involved in an =
Up-cycling
project of Trash to Treasure which also involved a 1 day OS. =
</span></font></b></b></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><font size="3D3" face="3D"Times"><span> </span></font></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font color="#3db00e" face="3DArial"><span>One participant selected the swimming pool as an additional
breakout space and it was one of the best attended sessions with the =
details of
the conversation recorded at the side of the pool by anyone out of the =
water.</span></font></b></b></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><font size="3D3" face="3D"Times"><span> </span></font></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font color="#3db00e" face="3DArial"><span>Maybe the fifth unspoken principle =
is;</span></font></b></b></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font color="#3db00e" face="3DArial"><span>Where ever it happens is the right place/only place it could =
have
happened</span></font></b></b></font></font></b></b></font></p>
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<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><font size="3D3" face="3D"Times"><span> </span></font></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font face="3DArial"><span>Regards</span></font></b></b></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><font size="3D3" face="3D"Times"><span> </span></font></b></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><i><b><i><font face="3D"John"><span>Derrick</span></font></i></b></i></b></font></font></b></b></font></p>
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<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><font size="3D3" face="3D"Times"><span> </span></font></b></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><font size="3D3" face="3D"Times"><span> </span></font></b></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><i><b><i><font color="#3d0e00" face="3DArial"><span>Why not check out our website to
view our services</span></font></i></b></i><b><b><font color="#3d0e00" face="3DArial"><span> . <a>www.DerrickMathewsCon=
sulting.co.uk</a>
</span></font></b></b></b></font></font></b></b></font></p>
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<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><b><font color="#3d000e" face="3D"Times"><span>"Let
the choices you make today, be the choices you can live with =
tomorrow."</span></font></b></b></b></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><b><i><font color="#3d0ed0" face="3DArial"><span>Soon to be =
2Wolves </span></font></i></b></b><b><b><i><font color="#3d0ed0" face="3DArial"><span lang="3DEN-GB"> </span></font></i></b></b><i><i><font color="#3d0ed0" face="3DArial"><span lang="3DEN-GB">
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<font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b>=
</b></font></font></b></b></font><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b>=
</b></font></font></b></b></font>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><b><font face="3DArial"><span style="">Derrick =
Mathews
Associates Consulting </span></font></b></b></b></font></font></b></b></font></p>
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Street</span></font></b></b></b></font></font></b></b></font>
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Down</span></font></b></b></b></b></b></font></font></b></b></font></p>
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4AD</span></font></b></b></b></b></b></font></font></b></b></font></p>
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+ 44 (0) 560 266 2591</span></font></b></b></b></b></b></font></font></b></b></font></p>
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<a href="3D%22mailto:derrick@derrickmathewsconsulting.co.uk%22">derrick@derrickmat=
hewsconsulting.co.uk</a>
</span></font></b></b></b></b></b></font></font></b></b></font></p>
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also find
me on Facebook</span></font></b></b></font></b></b></b></font></font></b></b></font></p>
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<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><b><b><font face="3DArial"><span>Facilitation
| Mentoring | Coaching | =
Training</span></font></b></b></font></b></b></b></font></font></b></b></font></p>
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p;
Open Space Technology =
Facilitation</span></font></b></b></font></b></b></b></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font size="3D3" face="3D"Times"><span> </span></font></font></b></b></b></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><b><b><font face="3DArial"><span style="">Helping
Organisations to Chart their =
Course</span></font></b></b></font></b></b></b></font></font></b></b></font></p>
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<b><span style="">On Behalf Of </span></b>Andrew =
Rixon<br>
<b><span style="">Sent:</span></b> 24 May 2009 =
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<b><span style="">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a><br>
<b><span style="">Subject:</span></b> Anti Laws of =
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<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font size="3D2"><span style="">Dear =
All,</span></font></font></b></b></b></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font size="3D2"><span style=""> </span></font></font></b></b></b></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font size="3D2"><span style="">Recently I’ve been =
pondering /
wondering about what might be the Anti-laws of =
OST.</span></font></font></b></b></b></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font size="3D2"><span style=""> </span></font></font></b></b></b></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font size="3D2"><span style="">For =
instance.</span></font></font></b></b></b></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font size="3D2"><span style=""> </span></font></font></b></b></b></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font size="3D2"><span style="">“What isn’t =
happening
are all the things that should be”</span></font></font></b></b></b></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font size="3D2"><span style=""> </span></font></font></b></b></b></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font size="3D2"><span style="">Or</span></font><=
/p>
</font></b></b></b></font></font></b></b></font></p><p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font size="3D2"><span style=""> </span></font></font></b></b></b></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font size="3D2"><span style="">“What didn’t =
happen are all
the things that should have”</span></font></font></b></b></b></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font size="3D2"><span style=""> </span></font></font></b></b></b></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font size="3D2"><span style="">As opposed =
to…</span></font></font></b></b></b></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font size="3D2"><span style=""> </span></font></font></b></b></b></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font size="3D2"><span style="">“Whatever happens is =
the only
thing that could have or did”</span></font></font></b></b></b></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font size="3D2"><span style=""> </span></font></font></b></b></b></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font size="3D2"><span style="">What are your thoughts on =
other
“complimentary” anti-laws? </span></font><font size="3D2" face="3DWingdings"><span>J</span></font></font></b></b></b></font></font></b></b></font></p>
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<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font size="3D2"><span style="">Warm =
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<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font size="3D2"><span style="">Andrew</span></font></font></b></b></b></font></font></b></b></font></p>
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Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 19:01:19 -0500
From: Michael Maranda
Subject: Re: Anti Laws of OST
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On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 6:23 PM, Andrew Rixon wrote:
>
> Know any jokes about time? J
>
>
>
I used to.
:)
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<br><br></font></b></b></b></font></font></b></b></font><div class="3D"gmail_quote""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial">On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 6:23 PM, Andrew =
Rixon <span dir="3D"ltr""><<a href="3D%22mailto:andrew@babelfishgroup.com%22">an=
drew@babelfishgroup.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></font></b></b></b></font></font></b></b></font><blockquote class="3D"gmail=" style="">
<div link="3D"blue"" vlink="3D"purple"" lang="3D"EN-US"">
<div><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><br></font></b></b></b></font></font></b></b></font><p><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0a00" size="3D"2"" face="3D"Arial""><span style="">Know any jokes about time=
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<br>:) <br></font></font></b></b></b></font></font></b></b></font></div></div><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0a00" size="3D"2"" face="3D"Wingdings""><br>
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Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 09:26:25 +0800
From: Brendan McKeague
Subject: Re: Anti Laws of OST
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for those living in the future it is wise to remember that...
in two days time, tomorrow will be yesterday
:-)
At 07:23 AM 26/05/2009, Andrew Rixon wrote:
>Thanks Harrison.
>
>I must confess that my interest really isn=92t in=20
>whether the 4 principles are principles or laws.
>
>Having recently read Phil Zimbardo=92s time=20
>paradox I couldn=92t but help to see how all 4=20
>=93principles=94 seem to relate to time.
>
>One of Zimbardo=92s interesting writings is around=20
>how we (often without knowing it) carry around=20
>with us a time perspective. The time perspectives he talks about are:
>
> * Future (The well known westerner approach=20
> to planning and all things about the future)
> * Present Hedonistic (Make the most of now)
> * Present Fatalistic (It=92s going to happen anyway)
> * Past Positive (Gratitude)
> * Past Negative (Woe to me)
>
>Which time perspective would you choose to help you be most =93healthy=94 ?
>
>Zimbardo=92s answer is we (especially in the west)=20
>need to be Highly Past Positive.
>
>You can even do your own assessment of what time zone you=92re living in=
here:
>
><a href="http://www.thetimeparadox.com/">http://www.thetimeparadox.com/</a>
>
>Know any jokes about time? J
>
>Warm regards,
>Andrew
>
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>Director
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>From: OSLIST=20
>[mailto:<a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a>] On Behalf Of Harrison Owen
>Sent: Tuesday, 26 May 2009 4:59 AM
>To: <a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a>
>Subject: Re: [OSLIST] Anti Laws of OST
>
>Just to render the whole thing non-sensical, the=20
>4 principles and one law are neither laws nor=20
>principles actually. To be honest they are just=20
>my (and others=92) observations of what seemed to=20
>be happening in any case. In a word they are=20
>descriptive as opposed to descriptive =96 You=20
>could say it is all a joke. Rather like=20
>=93technology=94 in the phrase Open Space=20
>Technology. The joke, however turned out to be=20
>outrageously funny =96 because somehow or another=20
>truth broke through. We are in serious trouble!=20
>Everybody knows that what happens in Open Space=20
>simply can=92t happen. Unfortunately it does =96 and=20
>that makes a joke out of a whole mess of other=20
>stuff =96 like most of what we think we know about=20
>meetings, the management of meetings, and management itself. Double=
trouble!!
>
>Harrison
>
>
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>
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: OSLIST=20
>[mailto:<a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a>] On Behalf Of Derrick Mathews
>Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 9:44 AM
>To: <a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a>
>Subject: Re: Anti Laws of OST
>
>Hi Andrew
>
>I am unsure if you can have anti laws with regard to the principles.
>
>First of all the process is based on "SELF" (the=20
>most important concept here)-organisation which=20
>involved participation or non-participation=20
>which involves human choice. Even if you adopt=20
>a Doris Day approach (Que Serra, Serra, whatever=20
>will be, will be, the future's not ours to see,=20
>que serra, serra, am I giving my age away=20
>knowing this song lol) your choice to let things=20
>happen is an intervention and so you have=20
>influenced the process making what happens the only thing that could have.
>
>If you do not turn up then you have had an=20
>influence of non-influence on the process and=20
>outcome so you have been involved and have been part of the right people.
>
>What ever happens is the only thing as if you=20
>are "involved" your involvement changes the=20
>dynamic and outcome, likewise if you are=20
>"involved" via no-involvement you affect the=20
>dynamic in a different way and as I stated above=20
>what then happens is the only thing that could have.
>
>Likewise when it starts is because someone made=20
>a choice to start it and you are "involved" or=20
>"not" which still has impact and similarly it's=20
>over because there is a choice made that it is=20
>over via group consensus or an individual's choice that for them it is=
over.
>
>Everything is in some way linked and=20
>interdependent and what we choose to do or not=20
>do, ripples out to affect all around us.
>
>We just need to always endeavour to impact in a positive way.
>
>Anyhoo, hope this adds to the confusion.
>
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>And on another thread, where are the most=20
>unusual places that folks know OST has happened?
>
>I recently had the pleasure of opening space for=20
>a great group of young people (that's anyone=20
>younger than me) from about 9 different parts=20
>of Europe who had come together In Londonderry=20
>to be involved in an Up-cycling project of Trash=20
>to Treasure which also involved a 1 day OS.
>
>One participant selected the swimming pool as an=20
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>best attended sessions with the details of the=20
>conversation recorded at the side of the pool by anyone out of the water.
>
>Maybe the fifth unspoken principle is;
>Where ever it happens is the right place/only place it could have happened
>
>
>Regards
>
>Derrick
>
>
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>From: OSLIST [mailto:<a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a>] On Behalf Of Andrew=
Rixon
>Sent: 24 May 2009 02:10
>To: <a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a>
>Subject: Anti Laws of OST
>Dear All,
>
>Recently I=92ve been pondering / wondering about=20
>what might be the Anti-laws of OST.
>
>For instance.
>
>=93What isn=92t happening are all the things that should be=94
>
>Or
>
>=93What didn=92t happen are all the things that should have=94
>
>As opposed to=85
>
>=93Whatever happens is the only thing that could have or did=94
>
>What are your thoughts on other =93complimentary=94 anti-laws? J
>
>Warm regards,
>Andrew
>
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>Babel Fish Group Pty Ltd
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for those living in the future it is wise to remember that...<br><br>
in two days time, tomorrow will be yesterday <br>
:-)<br><br>
At 07:23 AM 26/05/2009, Andrew Rixon wrote:<br>
</font></font></b></b></b></font></font></b></b></font><blockquote type="3Dcite" class="3Dcite" cite="3D""">
<font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0a00" size="3D"2"" face="3D"Wingdings""><font color="#3d0080" size="3D2" face="3D"Arial,">Thanks
Harrison.<br>
<br>
I must confess that my interest really isn=92t in whether the 4 principles
are principles or laws.<br>
<br>
Having recently read Phil Zimbardo=92s time paradox I couldn=92t but help to
see how all 4 =93principles=94 seem to relate to time.<br>
<br>
One of Zimbardo=92s interesting writings is around how we (often without
knowing it) carry around with us a time perspective. The time
perspectives he talks about are:<br><br>
</font></font></font></b></b></b></font></font></b></b></font><ol>
<font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0a00" size="3D"2"" face="3D"Wingdings""><font color="#3d0080" size="3D2" face="3D"Arial,"><li>
<b><b><b><b><b>Future (The well known westerner approach to planning and all things
about the future)</b></b></b></b></b></li></font><b><b><b><b><b>=20
</b></b></b></b></b><li><b><b><b><b><b><font color="#3d0080" size="3D2" face="3D"Arial,">Present
Hedonistic (Make the most of now)</font>=20
</b></b></b></b></b></li><li><b><b><b><b><b><font color="#3d0080" size="3D2" face="3D"Arial,">Present
Fatalistic (It=92s going to happen anyway)</font>=20
</b></b></b></b></b></li><li><b><b><b><b><b><font color="#3d0080" size="3D2" face="3D"Arial,">Past Positive
(Gratitude)</font>=20
</b></b></b></b></b></li><li><b><b><b><b><b><font color="#3d0080" size="3D2" face="3D"Arial,">Past Negative
(Woe to me)</font>=20
</b></b></b></b></b></li></font></font></font></font></font></ol><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0a00" size="3D"2"" face="3D"Wingdings""><font color="#3d0080" size="3D2" face="3D"Arial,"> <br>
Which time perspective would you choose to help you be most =93healthy=94
?<br>
<br>
Zimbardo=92s answer is we (especially in the west) need to be Highly Past
Positive.<br>
<br>
You can even do your own assessment of what time zone you=92re living in
here:<br><br>
<a href="3D%22http://www.thetimeparadox.com/%22">
http://www.thetimeparadox.com/</a> <br>
<br>
Know any jokes about time?
</font><font color="#3d0080" size="3D2" face="3D"Wingdings"">J<br>
</font><font color="#3d0080" size="3D2" face="3D"Arial,"> <br>
Warm regards,<br>
Andrew<br>
<br>
--<br>
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Director<br>
Babel Fish Group Pty Ltd<br>
Skype: AndrewJRixon<br>
Mobile: 0400 352 809<br>
Fax: (03) 8610 0162</font><font color="#3d0080">
</font><font color="#3d0080" size="3D2" face="3D"Arial,"><br>
Email:
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</font><font color="#3d0080" face="3D"Times"> <br>
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[<a href="3D%22mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU%22">
mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Harrison
Owen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 26 May 2009 4:59 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSLIST] Anti Laws of OST<br>
</font><font face="3D"Times"> <br>
</font><font color="#3dff00" face="3D"Arial,">Just to render the
whole thing non-sensical, the 4 principles and one law are neither laws
nor principles actually. To be honest they are just my (and others=92)
observations of what seemed to be happening in any case. In a word they
are descriptive as opposed to descriptive =96 You could say it is all a
joke. Rather like =93technology=94 in the phrase Open Space Technology. The
joke, however turned out to be outrageously funny =96 because somehow or
another truth broke through. We are in serious trouble! Everybody knows
that what happens in Open Space simply can=92t happen. Unfortunately it
does =96 and that makes a joke out of a whole mess of other stuff =96 like
most of what we think we know about meetings, the management of meetings,
and management itself. Double trouble!!<br>
<br>
Harrison<br>
<br>
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7808 River Falls Drive<br>
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mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Derrick
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 25, 2009 9:44 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Anti Laws of OST<br>
</font><font face="3D"Times"> <br>
</font><font color="#3d00ff" face="3D"Arial,"><b>Hi Andrew<br>
</b></font><font face="3D"Times"> <br>
</font><font color="#3d00ff" face="3D"Arial,"><b>I am unsure if
you can have anti laws with regard to the principles.<br>
</b></font><font face="3D"Times"> <br>
</font><font color="#3d00ff" face="3D"Arial,"><b>First of all the
process is based on "SELF" (the most important concept
here)-organisation which involved participation or non-participation
which involves human choice. Even if you adopt a Doris Day approach
(Que Serra, Serra, whatever will be, will be, the future's not ours to
see, que serra, serra, am I giving my age away knowing this song lol)
your choice to let things happen is an intervention and so you have
influenced the process making what happens the only thing that could
have.<br>
</b></font><font face="3D"Times"> <br>
</font><font color="#3d00ff" face="3D"Arial,"><b>If you do not
turn up then you have had an influence of non-influence on the
process and outcome so you have been involved and have been part of the
right people.<br>
</b></font><font face="3D"Times"> <br>
</font><font color="#3d00ff" face="3D"Arial,"><b>What ever happen=
s
is the only thing as if you are "involved" your involvement
changes the dynamic and outcome, likewise if you are "involved"
via no-involvement you affect the dynamic in a different way and as I
stated above what then happens is the only thing that could have.<br>
</b></font><font face="3D"Times"> <br>
</font><font color="#3d00ff" face="3D"Arial,"><b>Likewise when it
starts is because someone made a choice to start it and you are
"involved" or "not" which still has impact and
similarly it's over because there is a choice made that it is over via
group consensus or an individual's choice that for them it is over.<br>
</b></font><font face="3D"Times"> <br>
</font><font color="#3d00ff" face="3D"Arial,"><b>Everything is in
some way linked and interdependent and what we choose to do or not do,
ripples out to affect all around us.<br>
</b></font><font face="3D"Times"> <br>
</font><font color="#3d00ff" face="3D"Arial,"><b>We just need to
always endeavour to impact in a positive way.<br>
</b></font><font face="3D"Times"> <br>
</font><font color="#3d00ff" face="3D"Arial,"><b>Anyhoo, hope thi=
s
adds to the confusion.<br>
</b></font><font face="3D"Times"> <br>
</font><font color="#3d00ff" face="3D"Arial,"><b>
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And on another thread, where are the most unusual places that folks know
OST has happened?<br>
</b></font><font face="3D"Times"> <br>
</font><font color="#3d00ff" face="3D"Arial,"><b>I recently had
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</b></font><font face="3D"Times"> <br>
</font><font color="#3d00ff" face="3D"Arial,"><b>Maybe the fifth
unspoken principle is;<br>
Where ever it happens is the right place/only place it could have
happened<br>
</b></font><font face="3D"Times"> <br>
<br>
</font><font size="3D2" face="3D"Arial,"><b>Regards<br>
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</font><font size="3D4"><b><i>Derrick<br>
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<b>Sent:</b> 24 May 2009 02:10<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Anti Laws of OST<br>
</font><font size="3D2" face="3D"Arial,">Dear All,<br>
<br>
Recently I=92ve been pondering / wondering about what might be the
Anti-laws of OST.<br>
<br>
For instance.<br>
<br>
=93What isn=92t happening are all the things that should be=94<br>
<br>
Or<br>
<br>
=93What didn=92t happen are all the things that should have=94<br>
<br>
As opposed to=85<br>
<br>
=93Whatever happens is the only thing that could have or did=94<br>
<br>
What are your thoughts on other =93complimentary=94 anti-laws?
</font><font size="3D2" face="3D"Wingdings"">J<br>
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Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 11:51:33 +1000
From: Andrew Rixon
Subject: Re: Anti Laws of OST
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Yep! Love that one.
And I think the "Whatever didn't happen are all the things that should be"
is pretty indicative of someone living in the future.
Of course it couldn't possibly be me. :-)
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Sent: Tuesday, 26 May 2009 11:26 AM
To: <a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a>
Subject: Re: [OSLIST] Anti Laws of OST
for those living in the future it is wise to remember that...
in two days time, tomorrow will be yesterday
:-)
At 07:23 AM 26/05/2009, Andrew Rixon wrote:
Thanks Harrison.
I must confess that my interest really isn't in whether the 4 principles are
principles or laws.
Having recently read Phil Zimbardo's time paradox I couldn't but help to see
how all 4 "principles" seem to relate to time.
One of Zimbardo's interesting writings is around how we (often without
knowing it) carry around with us a time perspective. The time perspectives
he talks about are:
1. Future (The well known westerner approach to planning and all things
about the future)
2. Present Hedonistic (Make the most of now)
3. Present Fatalistic (It's going to happen anyway)
4. Past Positive (Gratitude)
5. Past Negative (Woe to me)
Which time perspective would you choose to help you be most "healthy" ?
Zimbardo's answer is we (especially in the west) need to be Highly Past
Positive.
You can even do your own assessment of what time zone you're living in here:
<a href="http://www.thetimeparadox.com/">http://www.thetimeparadox.com/</a>
Know any jokes about time? :-)
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Sent: Tuesday, 26 May 2009 4:59 AM
To: <a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a>
Subject: Re: [OSLIST] Anti Laws of OST
Just to render the whole thing non-sensical, the 4 principles and one law
are neither laws nor principles actually. To be honest they are just my (and
others') observations of what seemed to be happening in any case. In a word
they are descriptive as opposed to descriptive - You could say it is all a
joke. Rather like "technology" in the phrase Open Space Technology. The
joke, however turned out to be outrageously funny - because somehow or
another truth broke through. We are in serious trouble! Everybody knows that
what happens in Open Space simply can't happen. Unfortunately it does - and
that makes a joke out of a whole mess of other stuff - like most of what we
think we know about meetings, the management of meetings, and management
itself. Double trouble!!
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Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 9:44 AM
To: <a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a>
Subject: Re: Anti Laws of OST
Hi Andrew
I am unsure if you can have anti laws with regard to the principles.
First of all the process is based on "SELF" (the most important concept
here)-organisation which involved participation or non-participation which
involves human choice. Even if you adopt a Doris Day approach (Que Serra,
Serra, whatever will be, will be, the future's not ours to see, que serra,
serra, am I giving my age away knowing this song lol) your choice to let
things happen is an intervention and so you have influenced the process
making what happens the only thing that could have.
If you do not turn up then you have had an influence of non-influence on
the process and outcome so you have been involved and have been part of the
right people.
What ever happens is the only thing as if you are "involved" your
involvement changes the dynamic and outcome, likewise if you are "involved"
via no-involvement you affect the dynamic in a different way and as I stated
above what then happens is the only thing that could have.
Likewise when it starts is because someone made a choice to start it and you
are "involved" or "not" which still has impact and similarly it's over
because there is a choice made that it is over via group consensus or an
individual's choice that for them it is over.
Everything is in some way linked and interdependent and what we choose to do
or not do, ripples out to affect all around us.
We just need to always endeavour to impact in a positive way.
Anyhoo, hope this adds to the confusion.
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And on another thread, where are the most unusual places that folks know OST
has happened?
I recently had the pleasure of opening space for a great group of young
people (that's anyone younger than me) from about 9 different parts of
Europe who had come together In Londonderry to be involved in an Up-cycling
project of Trash to Treasure which also involved a 1 day OS.
One participant selected the swimming pool as an additional breakout space
and it was one of the best attended sessions with the details of the
conversation recorded at the side of the pool by anyone out of the water.
Maybe the fifth unspoken principle is;
Where ever it happens is the right place/only place it could have happened
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Sent: 24 May 2009 02:10
To: <a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a>
Subject: Anti Laws of OST
Dear All,
Recently I've been pondering / wondering about what might be the Anti-laws
of OST.
For instance.
"What isn't happening are all the things that should be"
Or
"What didn't happen are all the things that should have"
As opposed to.
"Whatever happens is the only thing that could have or did"
What are your thoughts on other "complimentary" anti-laws? :-)
Warm regards,
Andrew
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Director<br>
Babel Fish Group Pty Ltd<br>
Skype: AndrewJRixon<br>
Mobile: 0400 352 809<br>
Fax: (03) 8610 0162</span></font><font color="#3d0a00"><span> </span></font><font color="#3d0a00" size="3D2" face="3DArial"><span><br>
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<p class="3DMsoNormal"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0a00" size="3D"2"" face="3D"Wingdings""><font color="#3dff00" face="3D"Arial,"><i><font color="#3d0a00" size="3D2" face="3DWingdings"><b><font size="3D2" face="3DTahoma"><span>From:</span></font></b><font face="3DTahoma"><span style=""> =
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<b><span style="">On Behalf Of </span></b>Brendan =
McKeague<br>
<b><span style="">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, 26 May =
2009 11:26
AM<br>
<b><span style="">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a><br>
<b><span style="">Subject:</span></b> Re: =
[OSLIST] Anti Laws of =
OST</span></font></font></i></font></font></font></b></b></b></font></font></b></b></font></p>
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<p class="3DMsoNormal"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0a00" size="3D"2"" face="3D"Wingdings""><font color="#3dff00" face="3D"Arial,"><i><font color="#3d0a00" size="3D2" face="3DWingdings"><font size="3D3" face="3D"Times"><span>for those living in the future it is wise to remember =
that...<br>
<br>
in two days time, tomorrow will be yesterday <br>
:-)<br>
<br>
At 07:23 AM 26/05/2009, Andrew Rixon wrote:<br>
<br>
</span></font></font></i></font></font></font></b></b></b></font></font></b></b></font></p>
<p class="3DMsoNormal" style=""><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0ed0" size="3D3"><b><b><b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><font color="#3d0a00" size="3D"2"" face="3D"Wingdings""><font color="#3dff00" face="3D"Arial,"><i><font color="#3d0a00" size="3D2" face="3DWingdings"><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><span>Thanks =
Harrison.<br>
<br>
I must confess that my interest really isn’t in whether the 4 =
principles
are principles or laws.<br>
<br>
Having recently read Phil Zimbardo’s time paradox I couldn’t =
but
help to see how all 4 “principles” seem to relate to =
time.<br>
<br>
One of Zimbardo’s interesting writings is around how we (often =
without
knowing it) carry around with us a time perspective. The time =
perspectives he
talks about are:</span></font></font></i></font></font></font></b></b></b></font></font></b></b></font></p>
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<font color="#3d0a00" size="3D2"><span style="">Future (The =
well
known westerner approach to planning and all things about the =
future)</span></font>
</li>
<li class="3DMsoNormal"><font color="#3d0a00" size="3D2"><span style="">Present =
Hedonistic
(Make the most of now)</span></font> </li>
<li class="3DMsoNormal"><font color="#3d0a00" size="3D2"><span style="">Present =
Fatalistic
(It’s going to happen anyway)</span></font> </li>
<li class="3DMsoNormal"><font color="#3d0a00" size="3D2"><span style="">Past =
Positive
(Gratitude)</span></font> </li>
<li class="3DMsoNormal"><font color="#3d0a00" size="3D2"><span style="">Past =
Negative (Woe
to me)</span></font> </li>
</font></i></font></font></font></b></b></b></font></font></b></b></font></ol>
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Which time perspective would you choose to help you be most
“healthy” ?<br>
<br>
Zimbardo’s answer is we (especially in the west) need to be Highly =
Past
Positive.<br>
<br>
You can even do your own assessment of what time zone you’re =
living in
here:<br>
<br>
<a>http://www.thetimeparadox.com/ <br>
<br>
Know any jokes about time? </a></span><a></a></font><a><font color="#3d0a00" size="3D2" face="3DWingdings"><span>J<br>
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Andrew<br>
<br>
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Director<br>
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Skype: AndrewJRixon<br>
Mobile: 0400
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<br>
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mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a>] <b><span>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Harrison Owen<br>
<b><span style="">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, 26 May =
2009 4:59 AM<br>
<b><span style="">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a><br>
<b><span style="">Subject:</span></b> Re: =
[OSLIST] Anti Laws of OST<br>
</span></font> <br>
<font color="#3d0ed0" face="3DArial"><span>Just to
render the whole thing non-sensical, the 4 principles and one law are =
neither
laws nor principles actually. To be honest they are just my (and =
others’)
observations of what seemed to be happening in any case. In a word they =
are
descriptive as opposed to descriptive – You could say it is all a =
joke.
Rather like “technology” in the phrase Open Space =
Technology. The
joke, however turned out to be outrageously funny – because =
somehow or
another truth broke through. We are in serious trouble! Everybody knows =
that
what happens in Open Space simply can’t happen. Unfortunately it =
does
– and that makes a joke out of a whole mess of other stuff – =
like
most of what we think we know about meetings, the management of =
meetings, and
management itself. Double trouble!!<br>
<br>
Harrison<br>
</span></font></font></i></font></font></font></b></b></b></font></font></b></b></font></p>
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</span></font><font size="3D2" face="3DTahoma"><span>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style="">From:</span></b> OSLIST
[<a href="3D%22mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU%22">
mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a>] <b><span>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Derrick Mathews<br>
<b><span style="">Sent:</span></b> Monday, May 25, =
2009 9:44 AM<br>
<b><span style="">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a><br>
<b><span style="">Subject:</span></b> Re: Anti Laws of =
OST<br>
</span></font> <br>
<b><font color="#3db00e" face="3DArial"><span>Hi Andrew<br>
</span></font></b> <br>
<b><font color="#3db00e" face="3DArial"><span>I am unsure if you can have anti laws with regard to =
the
principles.<br>
</span></font></b> <br>
<b><font color="#3db00e" face="3DArial"><span>First of all the process is based on "SELF" =
(the
most important concept here)-organisation which involved participation =
or
non-participation which involves human choice. Even if you adopt a =
Doris
Day approach (Que Serra, Serra, whatever will be, will be, the future's =
not
ours to see, que serra, serra, am I giving my age away knowing this song =
lol)
your choice to let things happen is an intervention and so you have =
influenced
the process making what happens the only thing that could have.<br>
</span></font></b> <br>
<b><font color="#3db00e" face="3DArial"><span>If you do not turn up then you have had an =
influence of
non-influence on the process and outcome so you have been involved and =
have
been part of the right people.<br>
</span></font></b> <br>
<b><font color="#3db00e" face="3DArial"><span>What ever happens is the only thing as if you are
"involved" your involvement changes the dynamic and outcome, =
likewise
if you are "involved" via no-involvement you affect the =
dynamic in a
different way and as I stated above what then happens is the only thing =
that
could have.<br>
</span></font></b> <br>
<b><font color="#3db00e" face="3DArial"><span>Likewise when it starts is because someone made a =
choice to
start it and you are "involved" or "not" which still =
has
impact and similarly it's over because there is a choice made that it is =
over
via group consensus or an individual's choice that for them it is =
over.<br>
</span></font></b> <br>
<b><font color="#3db00e" face="3DArial"><span>Everything is in some way linked and interdependent =
and what
we choose to do or not do, ripples out to affect all around us.<br>
</span></font></b> <br>
<b><font color="#3db00e" face="3DArial"><span>We just need to always endeavour to impact in a =
positive way.<br>
</span></font></b> <br>
<b><font color="#3db00e" face="3DArial"><span>Anyhoo, hope this adds to the confusion.<br>
</span></font></b> <br>
<b><font color="#3db00e" face="3DArial"><span>
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----------------------------------------------<br>
And on another thread, where are the most unusual places that folks know =
OST
has happened?<br>
</span></font></b> <br>
<b><font color="#3db00e" face="3DArial"><span>I recently had the pleasure of opening space for a =
great
group of young people (that's anyone younger than me) from about 9
different parts of Europe who had come together In Londonderry to be =
involved in
an Up-cycling project of Trash to Treasure which also involved a 1 day
OS. <br>
</span></font></b> <br>
<b><font color="#3db00e" face="3DArial"><span>One participant selected the swimming pool as an =
additional
breakout space and it was one of the best attended sessions with the =
details of
the conversation recorded at the side of the pool by anyone out of the =
water.<br>
</span></font></b> <br>
<b><font color="#3db00e" face="3DArial"><span>Maybe the fifth unspoken principle is;<br>
Where ever it happens is the right place/only place it could have =
happened<br>
</span></font></b> <br>
<br>
<b><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><span>Regards<br>
</span></font></b> <br>
<b><i><font size="3D4"><span>Derrick<br>
</span></font></i></b> <br>
<br>
<br>
<b><i><font color="#3d0e00" face="3DArial"><span>Why not check out our website to =
view our
services</span></font></i></b><b><font color="#3d0e00" size="3D2"><span style="">
. <a>www.DerrickMathewsCon=
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<br>
</span></font></b> <br>
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OSLIST [<a href="3D%22mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU%22">
mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a>] <b><span>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Andrew Rixon<br>
<b><span style="">Sent:</span></b> 24 May 2009 =
02:10<br>
<b><span style="">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a><br>
<b><span style="">Subject:</span></b> Anti Laws of =
OST<br>
</span></font><font size="3D2" face="3DArial"><span>Dear All,<br>
<br>
Recently I’ve been pondering / wondering about what might be the
Anti-laws of OST.<br>
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For instance.<br>
<br>
“What isn’t happening are all the things that should =
be”<br>
<br>
Or<br>
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“What didn’t happen are all the things that should =
have”<br>
<br>
As opposed to…<br>
<br>
“Whatever happens is the only thing that could have or =
did”<br>
<br>
What are your thoughts on other “complimentary” anti-laws? =
</span></font><font size="3D2" face="3DWingdings"><span>J<br>
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Warm regards,<br>
Andrew<br>
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--<br>
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