<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div apple-content-edited="true"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'; font-size: 11px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Trebuchet MS'; font-size: 11px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px; "><b><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#0000FF"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11px; font-weight: normal; "><div>I say bring on the curious inquiry - how else do we explore complex issues except with mutual trust that we'll use sometimes smooth, sometimes lumpy words to express, wonder, share and each other in a community that cares.</div><div><br></div><div>Let's hear it for edginess, John - these things of access and inclusion are hard to unpack and so often avoided. And it's interesting hearing an edge in someone (you) who is usually so very skilled with direct and thoughtful speaking but not with edginess. Maybe it teaches others that you, a man of great peace and dedication to equity who works side by side with people facing great challenges, have seen things that some of us others could hardly imagine about injustice and disinclusion....</div><div><br></div><div>I am guessing that all of us in this community will always strive to choose words that express, communicate and inquire in the best possible way.</div><div><br></div><div>Let us welcome inquiry and mutual learning even (and especially?) when it is not all smooth.</div><div>Let us never be silenced by fear that we won't have said something well enough, although we have tried to do so.</div><div>I think when edges happen it illustrates an opportunity that so much more is to be shared and learned.</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you Nigel for asking and thank you John for both your edgy response and your 'circling back' to reflect on the possible impact of your response...</div><div>Lisa</div><div><br></div></span>Lisa Heft</font></b></span></font></div><div>Consultant, Facilitator, Educator</div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; "><b><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#0000FF">Opening Space</font></b></span></font></div><div><a href="mailto:lisaheft@openingspace.net">lisaheft@openingspace.net</a></div><div><a href="http://www.openingspace.net">www.openingspace.net</a></div><div><br></div></div></div></span></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> </div><br><div><div>On May 5, 2009, at 9:51 AM, John Engle wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>Hi everyone.<br>I want to thank you, lisa, for your gracious and thorough message. You're great! You said it so well.<br>I want to thank you Jeff, Jon and Pat for your messages as well. Thanks for expressing appreciation for mine, Jeff.<br>I want to apologize to everyone especially you, Nigel, for the edginess of my response to your curiosity.<br>I'm glad you expressed it instead of silencing it.<br>I need to sleep on my messages more often before sending them off. Live and learn.<br>Thanks again everyone,<br>John<br><br> </div></blockquote></div></body></html>*
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