<div>Hiya Shikha.</div>
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<div>Thanks for sharing your experiences of doing Open Space in south east Asia and Pakistan.</div>
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<div>You say: "The part we missed was good planning with two of us."</div>
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<div>One way to reduce the likelihood of a repeat of your Pakistan experience is to pull together a design team consisting of you (and your co-facilitator if you're working with one), the client-side person and, say, three people who be taking part in the Open Space event.</div>
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<div>The design team decides:</div>
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<li>The non-negotiables (the musts and must nots - what some call 'the givens')</li>
<li>The date, timing and location of the OS event</li>
<li>The theme or focal question</li>
<li>The outputs that are required from the event - reports, photos, whatever - and the reporting method to be used</li>
<li>Who to invite and how to invite them</li>
<li>Number and length of timeslots</li>
<li>Places to meet - where and how many</li>
<li>What materials will be needed (paper, pens, flipchart stands and pads etc.) and how these will be acquired</li></ul>
<div>No matter how well a collaborative gathering is designed, the reality will almost always be different. You plan for 150 people and only 70 show up. You thought a 45 minute timeslot would be enough, but on the day people needed 60 minutes. You arranged six places to meet but eight were required. And so on. But a design team generally produces a better design than one created by other means. The three participants-to-be know things that you aren't aware of. If one of the three is a sceptic, so much the better.</div>
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<div>I was taught this way of working by Robert "Jake" Jacobs, the co-developer of Real Time Strategic Change (<a href="http://thechangehandbook.com/content/view/62/38">http://thechangehandbook.com/content/view/62/38</a>) and it translates readily to Open Space.</div>
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<div>Some people have said to me: "You don't need a design team for an Open Space event - there's nothing to design."</div>
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<div>Your experience in Pakistan proves otherwise!</div>
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<div>Thank you again for telling your stories.</div>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Dear Bui,<br><br>There is always new learning experience while facilitating using open space. As you really do not know what will be outcomes of the meeting. These outcomes are always good surprises. <br>
<br>In context of South Asia, there is very big power based hierarchical structure. So, it was hard for these Chairperson or Board or President treated as equal as our philosophy of circle. However, the strategy we adopted was convincing these sources of power the relevance of our methodology and saying that it is a platform where they can moderate their discussions on the agenda they wanted. Another challenge was moving these big people from one group to other, that again need lots of convincing. The methodology has been great in my experience with the youth, who are open to new ideas and vibrant options of facilitations. <br>
<br>I always recall my experience of Pakistan as one of the nightmare;) The methodology was not well taken by the participants. While reviewing the reason, it was mainly due to language barrier. We had made a team of two person, myself and other friend of local area who was fluent in local language. The part we missed was good planning with two of us. Therefore, I think it is mainly about knowing expectations of the participants, their composition and cultural background where we can twist a bit of our methodology to make it a livelier workshops ever!<br>
<br>Hope it helps,<br><br>Shikha
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<p><font face="Arial" color="red" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Bui – Not to worry about odd balances of power. More often that not the “offender” (Chairman of the Board, President, etc) will get the picture and will simply be blown away by the rich resources in the room. And if they are not impressed, they are the real losers. Of course, it may be that the Big Cheese is SO good that nobody else has anything to contribute – if so he/she is REALLY a looser. After all he/she is the person who hired all those folks and if it turns out that they are all just plain turkeys, that does not say much for his executive ability. To say the least!</span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Arial" color="red" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">But let me ask you this. If not Open Space – what would you do? Go ahead and tell me that you are going to keep in control of the situation </span></font><font face="Wingdings" color="red"><span style="COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings">J</span></font></p>
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<p style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><font face="Times New Roman" color="black" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Thank you everyone for you great and varied responses. I think I am reminded of the importance of preparation and of clearly assessing if OST is a good choice for the situation.<br>
<br>The more I think of the OS my wife participated in, the more I start to believe that the conditions may not have been right and the problems may have exacerbated by the some of the modification of the format.<br><br>I do have a concern about using OS situations where there are significant power imbalances. I'm sure it has worked such on occasions but I am also nervous that it may not always do that.<br>
<br>Thanks again,<br><br>Bui<br><br>Thomas Herrmann wrote: </span></font></p>
<p style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The other day I had a participant in an Open Space-meeting telling me that she had a not so good experience in something called Open Space – where the facilitator used an alarm-clock – I guess to “tell” participants when “it was over” – and on top of that the alarm went off every now and then – so it seemed not even the alarm-clock could be managed... That participant, by the way, signed up for our upcoming training in October...</span></font></p>
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<p style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">One thing I do is to provide participants with an invitation to start with a round at hte start of each session. That gives everyone the opportunity to use his/her voice directly and share what thoughts they brought to the session – why they chose to come and also presenting their name to the workgroup. My experience is that this adds to the conversation and highlights that there is such richness in the group – straight at the start of their meeting. </span></font></p>
<p style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I’ve personally experienced working sessions in Open Space where one or a few people in the group occupied the space talking and talking – and of course yes I used my feet...</span></font></p>
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<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in"><font face="Times New Roman" color="black" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Thanks Harrison, and I resonate with the "no bad open space" experience because it always does in a community exactly what it can to reveal, heal, evoke, provoke and connect. It may not satisfy obsessions with speed and scale, but often delights the tenders of organic growth.<br>
<br clear="all">With gratitude, Jack<br><br>-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-<br>DesigningLife.com<br><br></span></font></p>
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<p style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><font face="Times New Roman" color="black" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">On </span></font>Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Harrison Owen <<a href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net" target="_blank">hhowen@verizon.net</a>> wrote:</p>
<p style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><font face="Times New Roman" color="black" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">How wonderful to return to find BAD OPEN SPACE! I didn't know there was any,<br>and truthfully, I never met an Open space I didn't like. But then again I am<br>
biased. My own experience is that as long as the conditions are OK (Real<br>business issue, voluntary self-selection, lots of diversity, lots of<br>complexity, real passion/confusion, and a decision time of yesterday) and<br>
the procedure followed (sit in circle, create bulletin board, open market<br>place, go to work) just about everything comes out perfect. Does that mean<br>that everybody is 100% happy? Have they ever been? -- and if not, why now?<br>
<br>The president of a company whose employees decided to dissolve the company;<br>he was un-happy. Control freaks that were sure that their way was the only<br>way -- they were unhappy. People who suffer from Freedom Shock pretty well<br>
go out of their gourds. People who think so little of themselves that they<br>permit the blowhards of this world to brow beat them without employing the<br>Law of Two Feet are definitely unhappy -- and must also understand that they<br>
alone are responsible for their misery. Neither Open Space nor anything else<br>will turn raving idiots into towering Einsteins for silk purses do not<br>ordinarily come from sow's ears -- and that is a bad rap on sows! Goodness<br>
me -- we have problems. But are those problems attributable to Open Space?<br><br>All of that said most people, most places, most of the time find the<br>ordinary to be extraordinary, the mundane to be magnificent. Just an average<br>
day in Open Space, relishing the wonderful world of self organization --<br>which truthfully is the only world we have.<br><br></span></font>Harrison<br><br><br><br>Harrison Owen<br>7808 River Falls Drive<br>Potomac, Maryland 20854<br>
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<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: OSLIST [mailto:<a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" target="_blank">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a>] On Behalf Of Elisabeth<br>Tepperk Kofod<br>Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 2:14 PM<br>
To: <a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" target="_blank">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a><br>Subject: Re: Bad OS experiences<br><br>I believe the key is in preparing the right question or issue.<br><br>Elisabeth Tepper Kofod<br>
Venezuela<br><br>-----Mensaje original-----<br>De: OSLIST [mailto:<a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" target="_blank">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a>] En nombre de Larry<br>Peterson<br>Enviado el: miércoles, 08 de abril de 2009 10:52 a.m.<br>
Para: <a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" target="_blank">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a><br>Asunto: Re: [OSLIST] Bad OS experiences<br><br>Bui:<br><br>In Toronto, I've also experienced some people who were not happy with their<br>
experience of open space.<br><br>Some people prefer the sense that somebody is in control of a meeting<br>(particularly in Canada). Others, particularly in healthcare, who are used<br>to dominating get upset when they are not able to do that.<br>
<br>To me a critical component is the preparation of the sponsor by the<br>facilitator. This is especially important in smaller groups from my<br>experience. How they frame the space that is opened before the facilitator<br>
asks the question has a big impact on the sense of freedom that participants<br>have or do not have. It is also important to have enough time in open space<br>to get beyond the usual suspects shaping the discussion particularly when<br>
the culture of the group has not encouraged participation in the past.<br><br>Certainly the setup of the room and the breakout spaces particularly in<br>smaller group have a real impact. A clear articulation of be done with the<br>
results is also critical.<br><br>I have led many open space events of 15 or fewer people that were lively,<br>new ideas emerging, new leadership surfacing, over six hours to two days.<br>Some individuals, however, are not quite ready to be full participants in<br>
riding waves. They only find this out in the experience of open space.<br><br>Larry<br><br><br>Larry Peterson & Associates in Transformation<br>Toronto, Ontario, Canada<br><a href="mailto:larry@spiritedorg.com" target="_blank">larry@spiritedorg.com</a> 416.653.4829 <a href="http://www.spiritedorg.com/" target="_blank">http://www.spiritedorg.com</a><br>
<br><br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: OSLIST [mailto:<a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" target="_blank">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a>] On Behalf Of Bui<br>Petersen<br>Sent: April-08-09 10:11 AM<br>
To: <a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" target="_blank">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a><br>Subject: [OSLIST] Bad OS experiences<br><br>Hi everyone,<br><br>Having almost settled in living in St. John's, Newfoundland, I am<br>
looking for opportunities to open space. It is a slow process to<br>introduce something that people are not familiar with, especially as I<br>am new in a town where everyone seems to know each other.<br><br>My question is, what do you do in cases where you meet people who HAVE<br>
been exposed to OST but did not have a good experience. My wife for one<br>participated in one OS forum, and she is not at all convinced. Her<br>experience was that the usual suspects did all the talking and those<br>that usually are quiet, stayed that way. I wasn't there myself, but from<br>
what I gather there may have been some factors that contributed to this<br>such as, the size of the group (only 15), the breakout spaces had tables<br>and a couple of other factors. Nevertheless, my wife is not convinced it<br>
could have been much different.<br><br>What do you more experienced think is a play? My own experience is<br>limited so I'm not sure what to say about this. Is it the case that some<br>OS events just don't have the right energy and don't work out that well?<br>
If so, what can you do to make people consider doing it again? The best<br>I have come up with is that even if OST may not be perfect, it is better<br>than most other things I have tried.<br><br>Your thoughts would be much appreciated.<br>
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<p style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><font face="Times New Roman" color="black" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><br>* * ========================================================== <a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" target="_blank">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a> ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of <a href="mailto:oslist@listserv.boisestate.edu:" target="_blank">oslist@listserv.boisestate.edu:</a> <a href="http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html" target="_blank">http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html</a> To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: <a href="http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist" target="_blank">http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist</a> </span></font></p>
<p style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><font face="Times New Roman" color="black" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">* * ========================================================== <a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" target="_blank">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a> ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of <a href="mailto:oslist@listserv.boisestate.edu:" target="_blank">oslist@listserv.boisestate.edu:</a> <a href="http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html" target="_blank">http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html</a> To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: <a href="http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist" target="_blank">http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist</a> </span></font></p>
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