Dear Bui,<br><br>There is always new learning experience while facilitating using open space. As you really do not know what will be outcomes of the meeting. These outcomes are always good surprises. <br><br>In context of South Asia, there is very big power based hierarchical structure. So, it was hard for these Chairperson or Board or President treated as equal as our philosophy of circle. However, the strategy we adopted was convincing these sources of power the relevance of our methodology and saying that it is a platform where they can moderate their discussions on the agenda they wanted. Another challenge was moving these big people from one group to other, that again need lots of convincing. The methodology has been great in my experience with the youth, who are open to new ideas and vibrant options of facilitations. <br>
<br>I always recall my experience of Pakistan as one of the nightmare;) The methodology was not well taken by the participants. While reviewing the reason, it was mainly due to language barrier. We had made a team of two person, myself and other friend of local area who was fluent in local language. The part we missed was good planning with two of us. Therefore, I think it is mainly about knowing expectations of the participants, their composition and cultural background where we can twist a bit of our methodology to make it a livelier workshops ever!<br>
<br>Hope it helps,<br><br>Shikha<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 4/9/09, <b class="gmail_sendername">Harrison Owen</b> <<a href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net">hhowen@verizon.net</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<p><font color="red" size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;">Bui – Not to worry about odd balances
of power. More often that not the “offender” (Chairman of the
Board, President, etc) will get the picture and will simply be blown away by
the rich resources in the room. And if they are not impressed, they are
the real losers. Of course, it may be that the Big Cheese is SO good that
nobody else has anything to contribute – if so he/she is REALLY a looser.
After all he/she is the person who hired all those folks and if it turns out
that they are all just plain turkeys, that does not say much for his executive
ability. To say the least!</span></font></p>
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<p><font color="red" size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;">But let me ask you this. If not Open Space
– what would you do? Go ahead and tell me that you are going to keep in
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> </span></font><font color="black" size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: windowtext;">Wednesday, April 08, 2009</span></font><font color="black" size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: windowtext;"> </span></font><font color="black" size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: windowtext;">10:33 PM</span></font><font color="black" size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: windowtext;"><br>
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: SV: [OSLIST] Bad OS
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<p style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Thank you everyone for
you great and varied responses. I think I am reminded of the importance of
preparation and of clearly assessing if OST is a good choice for the situation.<br>
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The more I think of the OS my wife participated in, the more I start to believe
that the conditions may not have been right and the problems may have
exacerbated by the some of the modification of the format.<br>
<br>
I do have a concern about using OS situations where there are significant power
imbalances. I'm sure it has worked such on occasions but I am also nervous that
it may not always do that.<br>
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Thanks again,<br>
<br>
Bui<br>
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Thomas Herrmann wrote: </span></font></p>
<p style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="navy" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">The
other day I had a participant in an Open Space-meeting telling me that she had
a not so good experience in something called Open Space – where the
facilitator used an alarm-clock – I guess to “tell”
participants when “it was over” – and on top of that the
alarm went off every now and then – so it seemed not even the alarm-clock
could be managed... That participant, by the way, signed up for our upcoming
training in October...</span></font></p>
<p style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="navy" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> </span></font></p>
<p style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="navy" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">One thing I do is to
provide participants with an invitation to start with a round at hte start of
each session. That gives everyone the opportunity to use his/her voice directly
and share what thoughts they brought to the session – why they chose to
come and also presenting their name to the workgroup. My experience is that
this adds to the conversation and highlights that there is such richness in the
group – straight at the start of their meeting. </span></font></p>
<p style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="navy" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">I’ve personally
experienced working sessions in Open Space where one or a few people in the
group occupied the space talking and talking – and of course yes I used
my feet...</span></font></p>
<p style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="navy" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Cheers</span></font></p>
<p style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="navy" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Thomas Herrmann</span></font></p>
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Skickat:</span></b> den 8 april 2009 22:22<br>
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<p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 12pt; margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Thanks Harrison, and I resonate with the "no bad open space"
experience because it always does in a community exactly what it can to reveal,
heal, evoke, provoke and connect. It may not satisfy obsessions with speed and
scale, but often delights the tenders of organic growth.<br>
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With gratitude, Jack<br>
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<p style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">On </span></font>Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Harrison Owen <<a href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">hhowen@verizon.net</a>> wrote:</p>
<p style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="black" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">How wonderful to return
to find BAD OPEN SPACE! I didn't know there was any,<br>
and truthfully, I never met an Open space I didn't like. But then again I am<br>
biased. My own experience is that as long as the conditions are OK (Real<br>
business issue, voluntary self-selection, lots of diversity, lots of<br>
complexity, real passion/confusion, and a decision time of yesterday) and<br>
the procedure followed (sit in circle, create bulletin board, open market<br>
place, go to work) just about everything comes out perfect. Does that mean<br>
that everybody is 100% happy? Have they ever been? -- and if not, why now?<br>
<br>
The president of a company whose employees decided to dissolve the company;<br>
he was un-happy. Control freaks that were sure that their way was the only<br>
way -- they were unhappy. People who suffer from Freedom Shock pretty well<br>
go out of their gourds. People who think so little of themselves that they<br>
permit the blowhards of this world to brow beat them without employing the<br>
Law of Two Feet are definitely unhappy -- and must also understand that they<br>
alone are responsible for their misery. Neither Open Space nor anything else<br>
will turn raving idiots into towering Einsteins for silk purses do not<br>
ordinarily come from sow's ears -- and that is a bad rap on sows! Goodness<br>
me -- we have problems. But are those problems attributable to Open Space?<br>
<br>
All of that said most people, most places, most of the time find the<br>
ordinary to be extraordinary, the mundane to be magnificent. Just an average<br>
day in Open Space, relishing the wonderful world of self organization --<br>
which truthfully is the only world we have.<br>
<br>
</span></font>Harrison<br>
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I believe the key is in preparing the right question or issue.<br>
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Bui:<br>
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In Toronto,
I've also experienced some people who were not happy with their<br>
experience of open space.<br>
<br>
Some people prefer the sense that somebody is in control of a meeting<br>
(particularly in Canada).
Others, particularly in healthcare, who are used<br>
to dominating get upset when they are not able to do that.<br>
<br>
To me a critical component is the preparation of the sponsor by the<br>
facilitator. This is especially important in smaller groups from my<br>
experience. How they frame the space that is opened before the facilitator<br>
asks the question has a big impact on the sense of freedom that participants<br>
have or do not have. It is also important to have enough time in open space<br>
to get beyond the usual suspects shaping the discussion particularly when<br>
the culture of the group has not encouraged participation in the past.<br>
<br>
Certainly the setup of the room and the breakout spaces particularly in<br>
smaller group have a real impact. A clear articulation of be done with the<br>
results is also critical.<br>
<br>
I have led many open space events of 15 or fewer people that were lively,<br>
new ideas emerging, new leadership surfacing, over six hours to two days.<br>
Some individuals, however, are not quite ready to be full participants in<br>
riding waves. They only find this out in the experience of open space.<br>
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Larry<br>
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Hi everyone,<br>
<br>
Having almost settled in living in St.
John's, Newfoundland,
I am<br>
looking for opportunities to open space. It is a slow process to<br>
introduce something that people are not familiar with, especially as I<br>
am new in a town where everyone seems to know each other.<br>
<br>
My question is, what do you do in cases where you meet people who HAVE<br>
been exposed to OST but did not have a good experience. My wife for one<br>
participated in one OS forum, and she is not at all convinced. Her<br>
experience was that the usual suspects did all the talking and those<br>
that usually are quiet, stayed that way. I wasn't there myself, but from<br>
what I gather there may have been some factors that contributed to this<br>
such as, the size of the group (only 15), the breakout spaces had tables<br>
and a couple of other factors. Nevertheless, my wife is not convinced it<br>
could have been much different.<br>
<br>
What do you more experienced think is a play? My own experience is<br>
limited so I'm not sure what to say about this. Is it the case that some<br>
OS events just don't have the right energy and don't work out that well?<br>
If so, what can you do to make people consider doing it again? The best<br>
I have come up with is that even if OST may not be perfect, it is better<br>
than most other things I have tried.<br>
<br>
Your thoughts would be much appreciated.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
<br>
Bui Petersen<br>
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