<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Chris Kloth <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:chris@got2change.com">chris@got2change.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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Quoting Michael Herman <<a href="mailto:michael@michaelherman.com" target="_blank">michael@michaelherman.com</a>>:<br>
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I was wondering if anyone that has used open space tech for teachers or<br>
schools has ever tried to get the participating teachers continuing<br>
education credits as incentive? How did you go about this? Did it work?<br>
Thanks!<br>
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I have done many meetings with teachers and other educators in open space over the years. On several occasions continuing education credits were offered as an incentive and in others they were not. When there was a sufficiently compelling question that was important to those attending people came without the credits to do what they saw as important work.<br>
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When CEUs were offered is was as a bonus after we clarified the compelling question. I am not sure if we had more people because of the CEUs.<br>
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I have to own a degree of ambivalence on this matter because the part of who I am that can be judgmental can feel judgmental about people who need credits before being willing to engage in important work. My less judgmental side knows that, in the US, teachers are under-payed and already working more uncompensated hours than we have a right to demand so if CEUs help them get recognition or compensation they more than deserve it.</blockquote>
<div><br><br>Chris, in the U.S. underpaid teachers usually have to pay for the CEU's and CEU's are required if they want to keep their license and keeping their license is required if they want to keep their underpaid jobs. . . . so when teachers spend some of their small, underpaid salaries to attend an event, they might not be able to go to an interesting event held in OS AND go to an event that will give them the CEU's that they are legally mandated to obtain.<br>
<br>You shared what you identify as some judgemental thoughts about people who, as you put it 'need' credits before being willing to engage in important work. . . . I don't think that is the issue here. It is a fact of life, a legal fact, that teachers need CEU credits. It is another fact that teachers have limited financial resources (just like everyone else!). If a teacher has $100 to spend to go to a conference and if one conference awards legally-needed CEU's and one does not -- and this teacher only has one hundred dollars. .. . they choose the CEU's because they have to have them. <br>
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>From my perspective the key to getting the CEUs awarded was having someone as part of the planning team who had experience working the CEU system in the jurisdiction AND understood how OST works so that s/he was able and willing to frame the application for credits in a way that the reviewers can approve and to advocate for the application when there were reviewers who did not "get it."<br>
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Hope this helps.<br>
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Shalom,<br>
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Chris Kloth<br>
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