<div>Hello Ivana.</div>
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<div>My Amsterdam-based friend Tom van der Kroon <a href="http://www.tonvanderkroon.nl/">www.tonvanderkroon.nl</a> has facilitated Open Space for Nederlandse Spoorwegen (Dutch Railways). It was my client but they needed a Dutch speaker. This was about 12 years ago! </div>
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<div>And I was technical adviser to a couple of OS events for ABN Amro Bank - one was held in Noorwijk, the other in Hong Kong.</div>
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<div>Also, I've run a number of OS events for Shell in Rijswijk, and much further afield (e.g. Muscat, Oman).</div>
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<div>There's a lot of OS going on in the Netherlands and I'm sure you'll get other replies like this one.</div>
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<div>I can't see how this is going to help you "sell this upwards from the ground level" though. Is there any chance of getting these managers together so you can walk (not just talk) them through the process?</div>
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<div>I'm not one of those people who says "you can't sell Open Space". That's utter nonsense. Anything can be sold. Selling isn't sbout making someone buy something that's not right for them. It's about helping people address their concerns. So find out what these concerns are, and help address them.</div>
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<div>If all else fails, consider saying to them: "You're right. This is too risky for you right now. I advise you not to use Open Space under any circumstances."</div>
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<div>I hope this helps.</div>
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<div>Success!</div>
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<div>Jack</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2008/10/28 Ivana Balazevic-Fisher <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ivana_bf@yahoo.com">ivana_bf@yahoo.com</a>></span><br>
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<div>HI all</div>
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<div>I wonder if anybody has heard that the OST was done in ING Amsterdam, or ING in the rest of Netherlands. </div>
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<div>I am working on a project which is crying out for some open space, crisis after crisis happens, and they never get "resoved" but just white-washed only to reappear in similar disguise 3 months on. People get recruited, 3 months later they get sacked because of crisis, then they get recruited again etc... See-saw if ever I saw one. </div>
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<div>This calls for some grass-root action, lots of open space for anybody who cares. </div>
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<div>But - how to sell it to management? The mindsets are as they are, things have "always been done this way", nobody even thinks that grass roots could be consulted..... Therefore, looking for somebody who has done it in ING already, or done it in Amsterdam, who could give me one or two hints as to how to sell this upwards from the ground level, to managers who (most probably) would not believe that a thing like that could happen ever, anywhere. </div>
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<div>Thoughts?</div>
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<div>Thank you</div>
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<div>Ivana </div>
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