<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Dear all,<div><br></div><div>I have a question: I have been opening space with 120 people yesterday at the ILO Training Centre in Turin as part of a larger conference. I have observed something (for the second time), that I would like to have your advice on.</div><div><br></div><div>I am explaining people how it works, including the principles and the law - very briefly, 10-15 minutes. Then I invite people to nominate topics and step away. And then I feel that they already start living the law of the two feet - immediately - before the first topic is announced. They stand up, start talking, walk away, get coffee, whatsoever...</div><div><br></div><div>I am torn between a) accepting and trusting that they know what to do and b) asking them to stay calm until we open the market place.</div><div><br></div><div>I understand, that they already at this stage start discussing what topics to suggest - they anticipate the market and start exploring and discussing on issues - not a bad thing (it starts whenever it's the right time...).</div><div><br></div><div>Usually they themselves come back to a self-established order and calm after some time - maybe 5-10 minutes. But in particular I feel sorry for those participants who make a start, ie. make the first announcements of topics, but nobody listens - and everybody misses those.</div><div><br></div><div>What is your thinking and experience? How do you deal with this?</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers and thanks in advance!</div><div>-marc</div><div><br><div apple-content-edited="true"> <span><img height="55" width="173" src="cid:65F22F96-B123-4BC0-915C-A79100B0D074"></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Arial Narrow'; "><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">IngeniousPeoplesKnowledge</span></div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-variant: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-variant: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial Narrow"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Arial Narrow'; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Arial Narrow'; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Arial Narrow'; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Arial Narrow'; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Arial Narrow'; ">Marc Steinlin</span></span></span></span></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial Narrow"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Arial Narrow'; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Arial Narrow'; "><span class="Apple-style-span" st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