<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">A thought about OS's market place. I often talk about what people bring into it as "offerings". With both a material and spiritual dimension to the word, it fits. I think when the economic marketplace loses that sense of offering, it goes awry.<div><br></div><div>Peggy</div><div><br><div apple-content-edited="true"> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>______________________________</div><div>Peggy Holman</div><div>The Open Circle Company</div><div>15347 SE 49th Place</div><div>Bellevue, WA 98006</div><div>425-746-6274</div><div><a href="http://www.opencirclecompany.com">www.opencirclecompany.com</a></div><div><div> </div><div>For the new edition of The Change Handbook, go to: <br><a href="http://www.bkconnection.com/ChangeHandbook">www.bkconnection.com/ChangeHandbook</a> <br> <br>"An angel told me that the only way to step into the fire and not get burnt, is to become <br>the fire".<br> -- Drew Dellinger</div></div><div><br></div></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> </div><br><div><div>On Oct 8, 2008, at 6:09 AM, Harrison Owen wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="Section1"><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" color="red" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: red; ">Good Wonderings!</span></font></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" color="red" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: red; "> </span></font></p><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" color="red" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: red; ">The actions in every Open Space are: 1. Sit in a circle. 2. Create a Bulletin Board. 3. Open a Market place. 4. Go to Work. In a word, Market (place) is an integral part of Open Space from the beginning. With the wisdom of hindsight (I certainly didn’t see this in the Two Martinis) I would suggest that what happens in every Open Space is that we create the essential conditions for the natural process of self-organization to work effectively. And every market just happens to be one of the most powerful examples of self organization at work. This is not a Capitalistic market, Marxist market, Islamic market – just Market. The various flavors are the several intellectual models or maps we have created to think about the market. Each one is useful in its own way, and all are limited by our inability to fully perceive the profound complexity and interconnectedness that is present. And when we make the ultimate mistake of confusing the map (model) with the territory we are truly in Deep Kimshi. It is all connected, it is all interdependent – and although a particular market may have a beginning and an end – the great market place in the sky never sleeps. I think that has always been true, but now we can see it in Living Color. It is called the Internet.</span></font></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" color="red" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: red; "> </span></font></p><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" color="red" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: red; ">The “Question” is very important. And so we have particular markets, and only those who care show up (usually), and if they don’t care, they leave (Law of Two Feet). For some people Sow Bellies and Corn is the thing. If that is not your cup of tea – move on. . .</span></font></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" color="red" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: red; "> </span></font></p><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" color="red" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: red; ">Wonder on!</span></font></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" color="red" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: red; "> </span></font></p><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" color="red" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: red; ">Harrison</span></font></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" color="red" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: red; "> </span></font></p><div><p align="center" style="text-align: center; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="red" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red; ">Harrison Owen</span></font></p><p align="center" style="text-align: center; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="red" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: red; ">7808 River Falls Drive</span></font></p><p align="center" style="text-align: center; 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">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b>Martin Boroson<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Sent:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, October 08, 2008 8:07 AM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">To:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Subject:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>wondering continued</span></font></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "> </span></font></p><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Book Antiqua"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Book Antiqua'; ">Thank you all, for deepening my wondering.</span></font></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Book Antiqua"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Book Antiqua'; "> </span></font></p><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Book Antiqua"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Book Antiqua'; ">I was especially struck by Harrison’s comment that capitalism and the market are not synonymous. And by those of you who spoke about the listening and connectivity that emerges in Open Space. </span></font></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Book Antiqua"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Book Antiqua'; "> </span></font></p><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Book Antiqua"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Book Antiqua'; ">Some continued wonderings, influenced by yours:</span></font></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Book Antiqua"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Book Antiqua'; "> </span></font></p><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Book Antiqua"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Book Antiqua'; ">a. Perhaps the so-called ‘free market’ is indeed an Open Space, just much much bigger than any Open Space that any of us has facilitated. And without a clear beginning or end, it’s taking us a long time to experience the connectivity and sense of responsibility that happens relatively quickly in a more defined Open Space.</span></font></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Book Antiqua"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Book Antiqua'; "> </span></font></p><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Book Antiqua"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Book Antiqua'; ">b. Maybe the thing that invokes connectivity in an Open Space is the presence of a question or theme. In an Open Space, we all gather together with a shared concern or intention, and I suspect that this certainly tilts the odds toward some kind of climax or resolution, and to experiencing some sense of connectivity through common discovery. The ‘free market’, by contrast, has the freedom of Open Space but not the shared intention.</span></font></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Book Antiqua"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Book Antiqua'; "> </span></font></p><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Book Antiqua"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Book Antiqua'; ">c. Putting (a) and (b) together: Maybe the free market is actually an enormous Open Space,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i><span style="font-style: italic; ">but</span></i><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i><span style="font-style: italic; ">we just don’t know what the question is yet</span></i>. Maybe, because this enormous Open Space has no clear starting point or ending point, it is taking us a long time to hear one another and realize that we are all connected, and that we really do have a common question. Maybe we are just starting to discern the underlying question that called us to participate in this enormous Open Space. Maybe that question is: <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i><span style="font-style: italic; ">How can we share resources equitably on this small planet? <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></i> Or simply, <i><span style="font-style: italic; ">How can ‘separate selves’ live together in peace? </span></i>And maybe we are starting to discern that there might be, after all, a time limit.</span></font></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Book Antiqua"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Book Antiqua'; "> </span></font></p><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Book Antiqua"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Book Antiqua'; ">Marty</span></font></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" color="gray" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: gray; "> </span></font></p></div>* * ==========================================================<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:oslist@listserv.boisestate.edu" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">oslist@listserv.boisestate.edu</a>:<a href="http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs:<a href="http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>* * ==========================================================<a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of<a href="mailto:oslist@listserv.boisestate.edu" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">oslist@listserv.boisestate.edu</a>:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs:<a href="http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist</a></div></span></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>*
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