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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Dear Lisa, Michael, Harrison and all<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks for opening this conversation. I
think World OSonOS is great and don’t see it as closing space for other
OSonOS’s – we are having a local one each month all year around (although
½ day only and called mentoring circle and inviting conversations around Open
Space/genuine contact) + our yearly Scandinavian OSonOS – so I agree keep
on inviting – open space! I appreciate joining World OSonOS when I can
because I love the diversity I encounter when learning about Open Space from colleagues
from all over the world IRL. I also think it’s a nice tradition.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I don’t think there is a need for 2
years to plan the event, agree to keep it simple – but to my memory one
of the main issues was that people wanted more time to plan their travels in
the world because of financial, environmental, practical etc reasons. And that
is fine with me too.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>To me the world-OS-telephonecalls can be
open to anyone while at the same time it is open to anyone to start
world-os-telephone conferences. The calls have so far resulted in some
recommendations from the group meeting. Meeting like that is a very nice simple
means to stay in contact, learn together and build community. Skype is another
way to get in a bit more “genuine contact” than via email, I think.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I think it could be nice for the coming
host teams if there was an agreed upon decisionmaking process, but as there is
none I guess they will find their way. If there is passion to develop something
which might be used, that could be an offer for coming hosts I guess.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>These were my thoughts right now<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Warm regards<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thomas Herrmann<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=SV style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>Från:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=SV style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName> [mailto:<st1:PersonName w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>För </span></b>Lisa Heft<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Skickat:</span></b> den 25 augusti 2008 03:35<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Till:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Ämne:</span></b> WOSonOS -and- future years
and locations [long]</span></font><span lang=SV><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>Hello, dear colleagues –</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>Get yourself a cup of tea (or other beverage
of your choice) as this is a long message...</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>First, thank you for your patience as we
work to complete the WOSonOS 2008 Book of Proceedings for distribution.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>We are just waiting for a few more
individuals who had wanted to send in their completed session notes in
post-event for inclusion in the Book.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>So: as soon as those come in (very soon I
promise) we will first send the Book to all the WOSonOS 2008 participants, and
then let you know here on the <st1:PersonName w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>
where it will be posted for your own reading enjoyment.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>And next, a little thing I have been
thinking about. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>I am interested in hearing your thoughts.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>And here is a bit of background.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>At the WOSonOS last month, there were two </span></font><b><font
size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS";
font-weight:bold'>invitations</span></font></b><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'> made for the WOSonOS to
come to someplace welcoming in the world, for 2009 and for 2010. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>You may remember that June 18<sup>th</sup>
message from the June ‘OS Groups or Institutes Call’ that was **
posted on <st1:PersonName w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>. This call is
an every-few-months gathering of one or two representatives from each Open
Space Institute or Group – about 15 countries are represented. I
also attend those calls as Access Queen, because I communicate with and support
each year’s Host Team and Askers as needed, no matter where in the world
the WOSonOS may be. In the notes from that meeting, you probably read
that Taiwan was interested in inviting for 2009 and bringing a nice contingent
to the WOSonOS, Berlin was interested in 2010, and also if you look in earlier
calls notes, <st1:country-region w:st="on">Hungary</st1:country-region>, <st1:country-region
w:st="on">France</st1:country-region> and <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Estonia</st1:place></st1:country-region> were also thinking of
inviting for a future year – perhaps 2010 or another year they felt ready
to do so. You may also have read in those notes that at the <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Kiev</st1:place></st1:City> conference (2007)
there was a discussion about having these conferences’ locations and dates
announced </span></font><b><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS";font-weight:bold'>two years
ahead</span></font></b><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'> – as it is very hard for both the
Host Teams and some of the travelers to plan for these things with less than
one years’ advance notice. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>(Our Host Team worked for over one year on
this WOSonOS, for example. Other Host Teams may need even more time
because there is not a large OS community yet locally and the majority of
people who come to these WOSonOSs seem to come over land – so this is
just my observation but a strong local OS community seems so essential for
supporting an event like this. Plus I think it is incredibly useful for
prospective hosts to attend a few WOSonOSs if possible to see how it is the
same and yet different from a client OS, to experience some of the traditions,
and make their own design and decisions based on some of that observation and
experience. Again – just my opinion, but to me, this seems incredibly
useful.)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>And there was also conversation and support
for moving the conference </span></font><b><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS";font-weight:bold'>back and
forth across the world</span></font></b><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'> – over this land, over
that ocean, over someplace else next – so that some people would miss
coming for some years but others would be able to come – because of the
sharing and moving across the world of this lovely event.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>My Host Team was interested in designing
something thoughtful, supportive and useful for both the invitation process and
– as appropriate – any deliberation process, should there have been
more than one inviting team for 2009 and 2010. Typically, these
invitations get made live at the WOSonOS – by the inviting Host Team or a
representative (Brian B of Australia and I once invited the world to India for
the 2004 WOSonOS to represent that year’s host, Janet Pinto; Thomas
Herrmann and Eva P Svensson of Sweden offered my third year’s invitation
at Kiev last year to represent me - and you can see what happened!). Some
of us on the Host Team had ideas for designing a discussion / consensus /
decision process and we wanted to know who was offering an invitation so we
could welcome them, create time in our event schedule for them, and support all
inviters through this invitation and decision process with thoughtful process
design. I asked all the conference registrants, too, if anyone was
thinking of inviting, just so we would know and design the time and approach to
support each potential hosting group or individual.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>(I had also talked to a few folks who had
expressed an earlier interest – and so had some of my colleagues such as
Gerard, Karen Davis and others– and it seemed as if those others who had been
interested felt it would be better to make their own invitation in another year
– though the Hungary inviters asked that the Berlin event be held close
to the 2010 OD Summit if possible, for potential attendance at both events).</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>As it turns out, at this invitation portion
of the WOSonOS there was </span></font><b><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS";font-weight:bold'>only one
inviting team for 2009</span></font></b><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'> (</span></font><st1:country-region
w:st="on"><b><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Trebuchet MS";font-weight:bold'>Taiwan</span></font></b></st1:country-region><font
size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>,
their second year of invitation) </span></font><b><font size=2
face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS";
font-weight:bold'>and one team for 2010</span></font></b><font size=2
face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>
(</span></font><st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on"><b><font size=2
face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS";
font-weight:bold'>Berlin</span></font></b></st1:place></st1:State><font
size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>).
So there was no need for any decision-making. Although fabulous <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Gerard Muller</st1:PersonName> stood up and reminded me to
stop....and breathe....and ask one more time if there was anyone else thinking
of inviting the WOSonOS to their country. I bow to you, Gerard. The
silence was nutritious. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>As it turns out, nobody else came forward.
So we celebrated our next 2 years of hosts (!!! 2009 <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Taiwan</st1:place></st1:country-region> !!! !!! 2010 <st1:State
w:st="on">Berlin</st1:State> !!!), and at the end of the conference – as
is our tradition – the 2008 (<st1:City w:st="on">San Francisco</st1:City>)
Host Team passed the lovely WOSonOS talking stick to the 2009 (<st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Taiwan</st1:place></st1:country-region>) team.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>So. </span></font><b><font size=2
face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS";
font-weight:bold'>My thoughts for your discussion are...</span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>As Access Queen, I often think of
‘what will help different kinds of people participate if they have a
passion to do so’. I do not get to all the WOSonOSs in person, but
I know it is very very powerful to receive an invitation from a potential Host
Team – in person – to get a sense for their country, their culture,
their personality. And powerful to make decisions in person – with
whoever comes - with conversation, and listening, in-person. I am not
sure how one would get such an amazing, experiential sense of someone inviting
– especially someone from another culture and country – in written
form only. Especially if their home language is not in English, as this
list conversation usually is.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>However sometimes I wonder if there would be
a way to bring the invitations to the larger OS community – including
those of you who cannot come live to the WOSonOS.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>I am guessing there are some of you who feel
‘it is just fine that whoever comes to any given year’s event in
person collectively hears these invitations and decides / agrees on the future
year(s) locations.’ You are fine with a diverse group of colleagues
being there to hear and feel and taste and sense what future potential hosts
are offering. You are like the butterflies in the room.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>I am guessing there are some of you who feel
‘I would like to be included too and I do not get to go to these live
events. I wish there was a way I can be included’. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>Maybe some of you feel both of these things
at once.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>I do not have an answer – and I for one
am one of those people who is fine with whoever being there getting to make a
decision. That is how I have experienced and enjoyed many Open Space-like
organizations’ or communities’ decision-making processes.
They use each others’ energies and participation in that fluid and
trusting manner, and whoever is at a given meeting gets to make the decisions,
whether all are present at that meeting or not.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>However: I want to invite you to share your
thoughts, dear colleagues. As I am just one person. And I feel like there
is a conversation here that is waiting to happen.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>I look forward to hearing the conversation,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:
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<pre><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Trebuchet MS"'>** You can find the brief notes from that recent international call in our own June archives (see below my signature for the web address for the <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName> archives), or take a look at the complete notes for each of those phone meetings at <a
href="http://www.openspaceworld.org/cgi/netwiki.cgi?WorldOSonOS">http://www.openspaceworld.org/cgi/netwiki.cgi?WorldOSonOS</a> </span></font><o:p></o:p></pre>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS";color:blue;font-weight:bold'>L
i s a H e f t</span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS";color:blue'>Consultant,
Facilitator, Educator</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS";color:blue'>O p e n i n
g S p a c e</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'><a href="mailto:lisaheft@openingspace.net"><font
color=black><span style='color:black'>lisaheft@openingspace.net</span></font></a></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'><a href="http://www.openingspace.net"><font
color=black><span style='color:black'>www.openingspace.net</span></font></a> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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