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color:#1F497D'>Shikha, Ashley and HO:<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I usually assume 7 per 100,  except in lower numbered
events.  Even with 10-15 folks, I go with a minimum of 3 breakouts. 
I also plan for the same number of computers as breakouts.  It depends in
part on clients and my assumptions about the possible emergent leadership in
the group.  At the wall, sometimes all of the post-its are taken at first
and then some are put back on the “grid” as the group
self-organizes and combines some topics for discussion.  I often put up
extra meeting spaces and cover them with paper until its clear that they are
needed.  This encourages topics to be spread through the time frame of the
event.    I’m always prepared for more discussion groups
that my best guess.  Encouraging emergent leadership around the theme, to
me, is important, without setting up to many expectations.  The space/time
slots for meetings are there or they get created on the spot as needed.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'>Larry<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'>Larry Peterson & Associates in Transformation<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Toronto, Ontario, Canada<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><a href="mailto:larry@spiritedorg.com"><span style='color:blue'>mailto:larry@spiritedorg.com</span></a>  
416.651.6913   <a href="http/:www.spiritedorg.com"><span
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[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Harrison Owen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> August-21-08 8:29 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: How many break-out spaces<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Shikha – You are not very far from that old question of
“Optimal Group Size.” Some said six. Some say 12. . . My own
experience is that the optimal size is whatever works, and that depends…
I have seen groups of 3 that were a disaster and groups of 70 that were marvels
of inclusion and communication. My conclusion: Only the people can tell, and
figuring groups size is one more thing I don’t have to do.  I guess
I would put “clustering cards” under the same heading. I know the
people who do what I think is called Participatory Technology, developed by ICA
– do that, but every time I found myself in one of their gatherings it
seemed to me that it all took much too long and never came out
“right” anyhow, for the simple reason that only the people knew the
issues well enough to know what went with which. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Shikha Shrestha<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:34 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: How many break-out spaces</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Hi,<br>
<br>
I  feel that it is hard for us to determine the number of participants, as
the people themselves choose the group they want to join in. The number of
groups that we can manage at one time slot depends on our venue, how much
groups that can be managed. We do not need very formal space but just a space
for people to talk and share. In most cases, having at least table or flipchart
is helpful to write their notes and that is visible to all in the group. It is
not mandatory though!<br>
<br>
In the number of people in each group, I also agree that 5-6 people per group
is the best but as facilitator we cannot determine the number so i suggest you
not be worried and let the session be chaotic so that people feel the warmth of
informality and do feel comfortable in sharing. <br>
<br>
In some cases, if there are too many cards than we can handle but I tried using
the method of clustering the uniform cards together. But, we should be very
much careful in not clustering the cards that are not similar or carry
different meaning. It is only the last thing that can be done. <br>
<br>
Hope it helps,<br>
<br>
Shikha<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 2:48 AM, ashley
cooper <<a href="mailto:mail.easilyamazed@gmail.com">mail.easilyamazed@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Thanks Doc and Harrison.<br>
<br>
So all we have to do is remember to KISS every experience we have. I love it!<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Harrison
Owen <<a href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net" target="_blank">hhowen@verizon.net</a>>
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<p><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Spaces – my rule of thumb is 5 (SPACES) per 100 people. Same
ratio for computers. KISS. Keep it simple S… Something I can remember and
it always seems to work.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:navy'>189 Beaucaire Ave</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:navy'>Camden, ME 04843</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Subject:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
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<p><span lang=EN-US> <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Hey Ashley,</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>My experience is one for every 5-6 people. If the group is small,
12ish, I have a few more. If the group is large, for me 120ish, I have a few
less. And, I just invite people to create another space if we run out. I'm always
happy to observe that when topics are called from that place of passion and
responsibility, walls in breakout rooms become less important. Corners of rooms
work fine.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>I wonder what you've learned, the Ashley formula?</span><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:navy'> </span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Hugs.</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> OSLIST
[mailto:<a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" target="_blank">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>ashley cooper<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 20, 2008 7:53 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" target="_blank">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> How many break-out spaces</span><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p><span lang=EN-US>Hello,<br>
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I still haven't mastered the ease of searching our archives... so please
forgive my repetition.<br>
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Do you use a 'formula' for estimating out how many break-out areas based on the
number of participants? <br>
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