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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Interesting, Peggy – and to carry
the thought a bit further, my learning from Open Space is that consensus is a
totally natural part of the process of self organization. I think we see this
practically when a highly conflicted group of people begins their journey in OS
with what seem to be a host of radically opposed ideas and positions. Everybody
is totally sure that nobody agrees with anybody. However as the discussions
proceed it be comes clear that some of the painful difference comes from mis-understanding.
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was really being said. In other cases the pain of difference resolved as it
became clear that two or more positions were good, useful and not mutually
contradictory. They could live well together, given the space to do so. I have
found, and I think others have found as well that as the OS proceeds, larger
themes emerge from most of the groups around which there is a broad level of
agreement. Nothing special was done in order to achieve all this – it just
seemed to happen. To me this is an essential part of the adaptive process which
Complex Adaptive Systems do as a matter of course – as they seek to have
things fit together (Search for fitness).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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consensus that there is no consensus. Or put another way – what everybody
presumed was the consensus had changed. My favorite example of this was a
business I worked with once who had asked me to open some space around the
theme of their future. By noon of the first day it was apparent to everybody
(consensus) that there was no future. By mid afternoon, they had essentially dissolved
the business, which came as a great relief to everybody, but it was rather a
shock to the President. Beware of Predetermined outcomes! The good news,
however, was that by dinner time that evening they had created two new businesses
both of which are doing quite well to this day.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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process of self organization it becomes quite clear that this is not something
we invented, and probably not something we need “do” as a special
activity. It happens all by itself, given the space/time to work in. To the
extent that we perceive painful differences in a group our focus should not be
on achieving consensus, but rather to insure that the system has the
opportunity to heal itself – which in most cases means that we will need
to open some space so all that can happen. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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energy for consensus process – a feeling I share. The issue for me is
that given the space/time, the system will do a much better job that I ever could.
Not only do I end up with a less than optimal result, but it is also a lot of
hard work. Doubtless this reflects badly on my skills and competence, but
unnecessary hard work is one more thing I would choose not to do.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I must admit to having little energy for consensus process, though I
have seen its remarkable power to shift a group to a new level of understanding
when people truly do listen to that one hold-out voice who brings some very
important truth into the mix. Still, I believe Open Space, as an ongoing
practice, a collective way of being, provides a very useful alternative
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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you love. (As an aside, I now believe that to do so is always an act of
service, not the selfish act that some assume it would be. But that's
another conversation....)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Now, there is a major assumption in what follows, but I seem to recall
this is a going in condition for consensus process as well: that the people
involved are committed to the well-being of the system of which they are a
part.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>This is primarily what I learned from Spirited Work, an Open Space
community of practice which used the four principles and the law as its
operating framework (along with Angeles Arrien's four-fold way). In
practice, those who cared about something, took responsibility to make it
happen. If, for some reason, their actions created dissonance, the issue
found its way into the marketplace and those who cared showed up to deal with
it. This happened with everything from washing dishes to dealing with a
financial deficit early in the community's life.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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reminder that no decision is permanent. Those who care, act and if
something hiccups, well, then, it surfaces and those who care, convene,
reflect, and act anew. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Now all that said, when the risk goes up, perhaps because the nature of
the action is difficult to undo, then it can be challenging. Transparency
is essential so that people can step in should they choose to do so. As
groups stumble through learning to do this, I think they develop the capacity
to discern when to bring something into a larger group for discussion, knowing that
action will flow based on taking responsibility for what one loves as an act of
service. I have experienced this sort of co-sensing on many occasions.
It seems to involve 1) understanding that a decision is a moment in a
larger unfolding and 2) radically trusting others in the community, knowing
they are taking responsibility for what they love in service to a larger whole.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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style='font-size:6.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>Peter,<br>
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This is necessarily my favoured definition of consensus but rather the most
thorough one that I have seen. Just meant to illustrate the amount of work
sometimes required to reach consensus.<br>
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Bui<br>
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Peter Emerson wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Bui,<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>You propose the following definition:<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>"Consensus is a group decision -
which some members may not feel is the best decision but which they can all
live with, support, and commit themselves to not undermine - arrived at without
voting, through a process whereby the issues are fully aired, all members feel
that they have been adequately heard, in which everyone has equal power and
responsibility, and different degrees of influence by virtue of individual
stubbornness or charisma are avoided, so that all are satisfied with the
process.”<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>May I suggest a slight amendment, adding
the two words ‘</span></font><font color=red><span style='color:red'>with
or</span></font><font color=navy><span style='color:navy'>’, as follows:<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>"Consensus is a group decision -
which some members may not feel is the best decision but which they can all
live with, support, and commit themselves to not undermine - arrived at</span></font><font
color=red><span style='color:red'>with or</span></font><span
class=apple-converted-space><font color=black><span style='color:black'> </span></font></span><font
color=black><span style='color:black'>without voting, through a process whereby
the issues are fully aired, all members feel that they have been adequately
heard, in which everyone has equal power and responsibility, and different
degrees of influence by virtue of individual stubbornness or charisma are
avoided, so that all are satisfied with the process.”<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<u1:p></u1:p></div>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>And a voting process in which</span></font><span
class=apple-converted-space><font color=black><span style='color:black'> </span></font></span><font
color=black><span style='color:black'>“everyone has equal power”<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span></span></font><font color=navy><span
style='color:navy'>is, may I further suggest (as in my original splurb), a
consensus vote, a multi-option preference vote, a Modified Borda Count.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>Just because some voting procedures are so
dreadful – probably the worst is the two-option majority vote –
does not mean that all voting procedures are bad. <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><font
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>Peter</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Peter Emerson</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<u1:p></u1:p></div>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><a href="http://www.deborda.org"
moz-do-not-send=true>www.deborda.org</a></span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span></b><st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Harrison Owen</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b><span
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b><span
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w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:personname></st1:PersonName>@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b><span
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I quite like what Scott Peck says,
although when you read it, it sounds like very hard work, something which can
be achieved only occasionally and under special circumstances. I wonder whether
the truth is rather different. Indeed I might suggest that the vast majority of
decisions made in any group or organization occur by consensus. There is no
argument, no great discussion, “it” whatever it was, just seemed
like the right thing to do – and that is what happened. Somewhere along
the line we came to the notion that decision is always a matter of formal
action, constrained by rules and procedure. This certainly seems to be the
reality in a number of organizations – which I find totally
claustrophobic! Probably just me – but my experience is that the essence of
life is deciding. Most of the time it just sort of flows. But there are
certainly times when it gets bumpy and hard and most usually that happens when
I try to force things. Crazy?<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <st1:personname u2:st="on"></span></font></span><st1:PersonName
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Tahoma'>OSLIST</st1:personname></span></font></st1:PersonName><span
class=apple-converted-space><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
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w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:personname></st1:PersonName>@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU]<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span></b>Bui Petersen<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b><span
class=apple-converted-space> </span>Friday, August 15, 2008 1:46 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b><span
class=apple-converted-space> <st1:personname u2:st="on"></span><st1:PersonName
w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:personname></st1:PersonName>@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b><span
class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re: A Common Consensus</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>I have been absent from this list for a
rather long time. Life has intervened again (I have just moved from<span
class=apple-converted-space> <st1:city u2:st="on"></span><st1:City w:st="on">Vancouver</st1:city></st1:City><span
class=apple-converted-space> </span>to<span class=apple-converted-space> <st1:place u2:st="on"><st1:city u2:st="on"></span><st1:place
w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">St. John's</st1:city></st1:City>,<span
class=apple-converted-space> <st1:state u2:st="on"></span><st1:State
w:st="on">Newfoundland</st1:state></st1:place></st1:State></st1:place>) and
kept me away from anything to do with Open Space. But the discussion on
consensus makes me come out from hiding.<br>
<br>
<st1:place u2:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Harrison</st1:place></st1:place>, I
agree with much of what you say. However, I think the difficulty with any
discussion on consensus is that everybody has a different interpretation of
what "consensus" means. The way I see it, consensus is not something
you come at easily. Reaching what I consider to be true consensus requires a
process that gives plenty of space for disagreements to be voiced. If a solution
can be found that everyone believes is the best and most reasonable
(considering the alternatives), and that everyone is willing to support, that
could be considered consensus. It requires a lot of time and effort and is not
always practical or even desirable.<br>
<br>
What irritates me the most is when people talk about consensus as if it only
means a strong majority, as in "8 out of 10 support this options; it looks
like we have consensus. A more common problem, however, is that people suppress
their disagreement in order to not be seen as "difficult".<br>
<br>
The most thorough definition of consensus that I have come across is:<br>
<br>
"Consensus is a group decision - which some members may not feel is the
best decision but which they can all live with, support, and commit themselves
to not undermine - arrived at without voting, through a process whereby the
issues are fully aired, all members feel that they have been adequately heard,
in which everyone has equal power and responsibility, and different degrees of
influence by virtue of individual stubbornness or charisma are avoided, so that
all are satisfied with the process. The process requires the members to be
emotionally present and engaged; frank in a loving, mutually respectful manner;
sensitive to each other; to be selfless, dispassionate, and capable of emptying
themselves; and possessing a paradoxical awareness of both people and time,
including knowing when the solution is satisfactory, and that it is time to
stop and not re-open the discussion until such time that the group determines a
need for revision." [<i><span style='font-style:italic'>© 1988,
Valley Diagnostic, Medical, and Surgical Clinic, Inc. of<span
class=apple-converted-space> <st1:city u2:st="on"></span><st1:City w:st="on">Harlingen</st1:city></st1:City>,<span
class=apple-converted-space> <st1:state u2:st="on"></span><st1:State
w:st="on">Texas</st1:state></st1:State><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>and
the Foundation for Community Encouragement,<span class=apple-converted-space> <st1:place u2:st="on"><st1:city u2:st="on"></span><st1:place
w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Knoxville</st1:city></st1:City>,<span
class=apple-converted-space> <st1:state u2:st="on"></span><st1:State
w:st="on">Tennessee</st1:state></st1:place></st1:State></st1:place></span></i>]
(as quoted by M. Scott Peck).<br>
<br>
My two cents.<br>
<br>
Bui<br>
<br>
<st1:personname u2:st="on"><st1:PersonName w:st="on">Harrison Owen</st1:personname></st1:PersonName><span
class=apple-converted-space> </span>wrote:<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><u3:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PostalCode"><u3:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="State"><u3:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="country-region"><u3:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="City"><u3:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place"><u3:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="Street"><u3:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="address"><u3:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PersonName"></u3:smarttagtype></u3:smarttagtype></u3:smarttagtype></u3:smarttagtype></u3:smarttagtype></u3:smarttagtype></u3:smarttagtype></u3:smarttagtype>Peter
– Tyranny by the majority is certainly a downside of Democracy as
practiced in my country (<st1:place u2:st="on"><st1:country-region u2_x003a_st="on" u2:st="on"><st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">USA</st1:country-region></st1:place></st1:place></st1:country-region>).
That said, it seems to me that there are circumstances where it is the
preferable alternative. The passage of the Civil Rights Act here in the US was
vociferously and often violently opposed by a very vocal minority, however I
would doubt that many black Americans opposed the vigorous enforcement of that
act, and fortunately (for the good of the country) a majority of all Americans,
regardless of hue, were in agreement.<u3:p></u3:p></span></font><font
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Consensus politics has much to commend it,
but it too has its downsides. Resolution at the lowest common denominator is
one such, which often appears to be no resolution at all. Alternatively, the
whole system may simply become paralyzed. At such times, I for one find myself
longing for a straight up or down vote. There is also such a thing a Tyranny of
Consensus, I think.<u3:p></u3:p></span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Perhaps it is useful to think in terms of
both/and as opposed to either/or? For example, Majority Rule, as in the case of
the Civil Rights act, was possible only because of a prior consensus in the
American Population that the Rule of Law was to be preferred even if you were
on the wrong side of the Law.<u3:p></u3:p></span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I suspect that the situation is infinitely
more complicated than the simple alternative (Consensus/Majority Rule). My
learning has been that our capacity to design and implement effective systems
of all sorts (political, corporate, etc) is limited at best. We simply cannot
comprehend the infinite complexity and random occurrences (essential chaos),
characteristic of all living systems. Our solutions are always approximations,
and try as we might, we will never get it “right” – and for
sure we will never be in control. This doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t
keep trying, but I think it is essential that we understand the true status of
our creations – they are maps, and never to be confused with the
territory. Like all maps, some are better than others, and as conditions change
these maps become more or less relevant/accurate.<u3:p></u3:p></span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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that there is “<st1:street u2_x003a_st="on" u2:st="on"><st1:address u2_x003a_st="on" u2:st="on"><st1:Street
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This effectively limits our options and reduces the living space (open space).
Pushed to extremes the system will die – which is the end state of all
systems, regardless. When you run out of space/time you run out of life.
Fortunately our maps do not create the systems, and our systems are infinitely
more robust than our designs could ever be. Are they perfect? No. They are
always on the way to something new. And if they ever get “there”
that will be the end, I think.<u3:p></u3:p></span></font><font color=black><span
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b><span
class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re: A Common Consensus</span></font><font
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>They key, then, is to ask these folks, do
they believe in democracy? Yes? Oh jolly good. And do they
believe democracy is for everybody, or just a majority? And if they agree
to the former, away you go.<u3:p></u3:p></span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Mediation works only when the parties to
the dispute agree to it. Democracy should work for all democrats.
Russians and Georgians claim the adjective. But the idea that a
majority can determine the fate of an unwilling minority<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span><i><span style='font-style:italic'>should</span></i><span
class=apple-converted-space> </span>be abhorrent… to both. <u3:p></u3:p></span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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protection ever devised from the tyranny of the majority." Professor
Sir Michael Dummett.</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'> <st1:personname u2_x003a_st="on" u2:st="on"></span></font></span><st1:PersonName
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Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span></b>Jack Martin
Leith<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b><span
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b><span
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Thanks for taking the trouble to explain
the method in so much detail. I've turned your post into a Word document and
filed it under Decision Making Methods for future reference.<u3:p></u3:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>The challenge is getting people's
agreement to use the method.<u3:p></u3:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Catch-22!<u3:p></u3:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Jack Martin Leith<br>
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(+44 7831 840541)<br>
Skype: jackmartinleith<br>
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