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<DIV>Hi Raffi,</DIV>
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<DIV>I'd like to continue a robust Obama discussion off-list.</DIV>
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<DIV>I invite others on the list to join us by emailing Raffi directly at <A href="mailto:raffi@BK.RU">raffi at BK.RU</A> or me at magic.teams at hotmail.com.</DIV>
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<DIV>thanks,</DIV>
<DIV>Jeff Aitken</DIV>
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<DIV><BR><BR>> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:31:36 -0600<BR>> From: raffi@BK.RU<BR>> Subject: Message from Berlin<BR>> To: OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<BR>> <BR>> Dear all,<BR>> <BR>> A number of spaceniks have been having an energetic, respectful, and lively<BR>> exchange about the Obama candidacy offlist.<BR>> <BR>> Indeed, there is much about him that is encouraging, and the more one<BR>> explores him more carefully, the more troubling questions come up.<BR>> <BR>> The Real News Network (realnews.com started by former Canadian Broadcasting<BR>> Company journalist Paul Jay) has offered a critical, progressive perspective<BR>> on Obama.<BR>> <BR>> Among the latest pieces after the Berlin speech:<BR>> Mustafa Barghouti, leader of the Palestinian National Initiative, interviewed:<BR>> <BR>> http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=1965<BR>> <BR>> From the transcript:<BR>> <BR>> PEPE ESCOBAR, SENIOR ANALYST: Senator Barack Obama, in his world tour, spent<BR>> less than an hour in Palestine, compared to 32 hours in Israel. Very few<BR>> people know the facts on the ground in Palestine as well as Mustafa<BR>> Barghouti. Barghouti, born in Jerusalem and a resident of Ramallah, is a<BR>> member of Parliament and the leader of the Palestinian National Initiative,<BR>> a democratic, reformist alternative to the Palestinian Authority in Hamas.<BR>> The Real News spoke to Mustafa Barghouti in Washington about Obama's visit<BR>> to Israel and Ramallah and the facts on the ground in the<BR>> Israeli-Palestinian conflict.<BR>> <BR>> MUSTAFA BARGHOUTI, PALESTINIAN MEMBER OF PARLIAMENT: I found it astonishing<BR>> that he spoke so well about the issue of walls in Berlin, where the wall is<BR>> gone. He should have said this while he was visiting Israel and Palestine to<BR>> refer to the wall that we have in Palestine that is three times the length<BR>> of Berlin Wall and twice as high as Berlin Wall is, and very drastic in its<BR>> effect on Palestinian population.<BR>> <BR>> ***<BR>> <BR>> Even if Obama is elected/selected, I'm not holding my breath. He's now<BR>> pushing for more troops in Afghanistan.<BR>> <BR>> Indeed, I think it all comes down to opening more space wherever one is. <BR>> Thanks for the encouragement Harrison.<BR>> <BR>> warmly,<BR>> raffi<BR>> <BR>> *<BR>> *<BR>> ==========================================================<BR>> OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<BR>> ------------------------------<BR>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options,<BR>> view the archives of oslist@listserv.boisestate.edu:<BR>> http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html<BR>> <BR>> To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs:<BR>> http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist<BR></DIV><br /><hr />With Windows Live for mobile, your contacts travel with you. <a href='http://www.windowslive.com/mobile/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_mobile_072008' target='_new'>Connect on the go.</a></body>
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