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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">That is marvellous. Thank you. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">I will wait for corrections of small typing errors (done by other "English natives", I hope...) and will translate it to Portuguese and include it in the Portuguese version of the Wikipedia, during the next Sunday (I hope). Is that timing ok?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Carla will do the Dutch section. Can we have offers for the other languages (<st1:PersonName w:st="on" ProductID="at list">at list</st1:PersonName> the ones represented in the openspaceworld site)? <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><st1:PersonName w:st="on" ProductID="Michael Herman"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Michael Herman</SPAN></st1:PersonName><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">: would you agree about repeating those new many-languages versions of the OST description from the Wikipedia in the openspace wiki? (Including the wikis that are now closed for edition, like the Iberian one)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Lisa: Wikipedia is an Encyclopaedia - or wants to be one. I am afraid that links to consultants’ pages may be considered as "advertising", no matter how important they may be considered by the OST community, especially when they have been added by the owner of the linked sites. So I would suggest removing those links from the Wikipedia, maintaining the link to opensapceworlg.org, edited to say that the photo-illustration of the process and the glossary of international terms and phrases is included there and edit that wiki to included the links to those materials in a prominent place. What do you think?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Best regards. </SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">From Lisbon with b</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">eijos e abraços<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<DIV><BR><BR>--- On <B>Mon, 6/16/08, Harrison Owen <I><hhowen@verizon.net></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid">From: Harrison Owen <hhowen@verizon.net><BR>Subject: Re: [OSLIST] OST becoming mainstream (was: Opening Space at Microsoft PDC)<BR>To: OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<BR>Date: Monday, June 16, 2008, 3:09 PM<BR><BR>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Carla – Great! And let’s get the English straight first. I have made a first effort. Hopefully some of our more literate compatriots in OS Land will hear the call to improve!!!</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> OSLIST [mailto: OSLIST @LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Vliex, Carla (cvl)<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, June 16, 2008 3:42 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> OSLIST @LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: OST becoming mainstream (was: Opening Space at Microsoft PDC)</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">great idea</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I can do the dutch part</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">ciao Carla from the Netherlands</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> OSLIST [mailto: OSLIST @LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Artur Silva<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> maandag 16 juni 2008 15:39<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> OSLIST @LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> OST becoming mainstream (was: Opening Space at Microsoft PDC)</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Jack, Harrison and all: </SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">There is strong evidence that OST is becoming mainstream. </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I am not speaking only based on the Microsoft event but on some other international conferences that announced that they are going to use OST. </SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">But this is also a problem. In some cases, the expression Open Space (or even Open Space Technology) is used, but there are variants in its application that may subvert its flavour or event its essence. </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I am not speaking of heterodoxy - that always implies that the heterodox knows what the orthodoxy is - but about using the label with complete ignorance of the OST User's Guide.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Some 3 or 4 years ago a CPSquare event was announced as "OS" but the topics for break out sessions were selected in advance by the organizers.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">In the Microsoft event, it happens that the person that apparently is opening the space for that "OST" is concerned about the fact that (fortunately) he will not be able to apply what he thinks are two rules of OST - but they are not. </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">In a different event, where a fried of mine will have to assure the logistics part, a lot of strange material has been asked by the facilitator for the break out spaces of an "OST event". </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I know that a non proprietary methodology has no way to enforce its principles. But there are some corrections that can be done easily.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">As you all know, more and more the Wikipedia is the standard for definitions and first information about almost everything. And if one googles "Open Space Technology" the first entry refers to the Wikipedia </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><A href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Space_Technology" target=_blank rel=nofollow><FONT color=purple><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="COLOR: purple">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Space_Technology</SPAN></FONT></A></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">. </SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">But if one reads the content there are a lot of wrong or misleading information in it. This goes from small imperfections, like the wording of principles, to the fact that the Law is completely forgotten. </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The same is true in other languages. If I google "Metodologia de Espaço Aberto" the first enter refers to the Wikipedia in Portuguese </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><A href="http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Espa%C3%A7o_aberto" target=_blank rel=nofollow><FONT color=purple><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="COLOR: purple">http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Espa%C3%A7o_aberto</SPAN></FONT></A></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">. Again the definition is very superficial.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">But anyone can correct the wikipedia (</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><A href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Contributing_to_Wikipedia" target=_blank rel=nofollow><FONT color=purple><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="COLOR: purple">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Contributing_to_Wikipedia</SPAN></FONT></A></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">)</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">So, here go my suggestions:</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">1) Harrison and a small group of friends could correct the English entry of the Wikipedia.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">2) Afterwards all of us could use that version as a guide and translate it in all of our different languages to include in the Wikipedia version in each language.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">3) Anyhow the Wikipedia has a link to the OST site (</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><A href="http://www.openspaceworld.org/" target=_blank rel=nofollow><FONT color=purple><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="COLOR: purple">http://www.openspaceworld.org/</SPAN></FONT></A></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">) but this was initially thought, I think, as a resource for practitioners. Now it is used also by non OST practitioners, that can't find easily (in the main page of each language) a short, agreed upon, clarification of the principles and fundamentals of OST. This could complement the Wikipedia entries - or even simply repeat them. </SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">From: Jack Martin Leith <jack@jackmartinleith.com><BR>Subject: Re: [ OSLIST ] Opening Space at Microsoft PDC<BR>To: OSLIST @LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<BR>Date: Friday, June 13, 2008, 11:24 AM</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Delighted to get your email and to see both blog comments.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Please have another look at <A href="http://www.jackmartinleith.com/?p=232" target=_blank rel=nofollow>www.jackmartinleith.com/?p=232</A> where you'll see my response to the two numbered points in our second comment (also pasted below for the benefit of OSListers).</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">And please accept my apologies for getting hold of the wrong end of the stick!</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Jack Martin Leith<BR>Creating the new. Enriching the world<BR>Bristol , United Kingdom<BR>Mobile : 07831 840541 (+44 7831 840541)<BR>Skype: jackmartinleith<BR>email: <A href="mailto:jack@jackmartinleith.com" target=_blank rel=nofollow>jack@jackmartinleith.com</A><BR><A href="http://www.jackmartinleith.com/" target=_blank rel=nofollow>www.jackmartinleith.com</A> </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">From <A href="http://www.jackmartinleith.com/?p=232" target=_blank rel=nofollow>www.jackmartinleith.com/?p=232</A>:</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">1) Due to the size of the conference (and the fact that Open Space is just an un-conference within the larger conference), there isn't a current plan to have attendees vote and prioritize the sessions they want to see talked about (which, unfortunately, removes some of the agile nature of Open Space).</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">As you can imagine, this has me concerned as both of them are departures from the Open Space model. I would love to have a chat here with you and your readers on ways that we can avoid this (or if we should even be worrying about it). The biggest key is that I don't want to take a great model like Open Space and butcher it because we didn't actually "grok" the true purposes behind Open Space.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><STRONG><B><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">My response to Jason's two posts:</SPAN></FONT></B></STRONG><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P><FONT face=Arial color=#1f497d size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thanks for the email Jack! I commented on your blog post directly to make the conversation more public. My wording may have been a bit unclear. There is no creating of the agenda ahead of the conference. This is something that is created onsite, at the conference, by the attendees and for the attendees. This also enables me to avoid having us (Microsoft) try to "dictate" what can or can't be discussed. This should be an agile process. </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P><FONT face=Arial color=#1f497d size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The part that concerns me right now (and where we currently deviate from a typical Open Space), is that there is no "attendees vote for the sessions they would like to see and we use that to determine what is presented." Because of the potential number of people involved, combined with the fact that this is merely a smaller unconference within a larger conference, I'm not convinced that it would work. So, currently, it's largely "first come, first serve" when people sign up for an Open Space session. Also, there's really not a supported model for submitting a session you want to hear about, but have no clue who can moderate/or discuss the session in general.</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P><B><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A href="mailto:jackmartinleith@gmail.com" target=_blank rel=nofollow>jackmartinleith@gmail.com</A> [mailto:<A href="mailto:jackmartinleith@gmail.com" target=_blank rel=nofollow>jackmartinleith@gmail.com</A>] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Jack Martin Leith<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, June 13, 2008 9:11 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> OSLIST<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> Jason Olson (DPE)<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: Opening Space at Microsoft PDC</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><A href="http://microsoftpdc.com/View.aspx?post=91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:8590057" target=_blank rel=nofollow>http://microsoftpdc.com/View.aspx?post=91d46819-8472-40ad-a661-2c78acb4018c:8590057</A> Don't have any idea who is doing it, but I am sure they will have a grand time.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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