<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Dear all, many thanks for your feedback! I will take up your ideas and inputs with my colleagues.<div><br></div><div>I can take some ideas with me: initially I was more thinking of having each of us facilitating a part of the OS - "serial" facilitation. But on the basis of your comments, I feel like maybe rather going for "parallel" facilitation. I don't know exactly what that means, but have a feeling emerging in my guts - I'm positive we will know how to do it.</div><div>Thanks for the words of caution, in particular to you Michael. I have made similar experiences in other contexts with regard to confused roles, projections and so on and if we are aware of this possibility, I'm sure we - well, as you say maybe not avoid it, but will be able to deal with it when it's there. But I'm not really afraid of this, I have a lot of confidence in my friends' and my own experience.</div><div><br></div><div>What makes things easier is that nobody would consider me as their leader. I will - together with others - facilitate the event, and for some it will be their first full-fledged OS experience, but nobody would think I might be something like their "leader" beyond facilitating this day. The nice thing about this group of people is, that it is very open and open-minded community - in fact I feel that the open space philosophy is very close to the thinking of this group.</div><div><br></div><div>I also like very much the idea of adopting OS as a system of continuous operation, which has come through some of your responses. I am currently thinking about how to run my own little organisation in a micro-macro-OS way: micro because at this stage we are just 3 of us, macro because I would like to start somehow getting into the OS way and opening space, but not really closing it anymore - eg. having a constantly evolving market place of topics that we are conversing about, and to somehow apply the principles as our normal mode of operation. Don't know whether this (will) make any sense...</div><div><br></div><div>-marc</div><div><br><div apple-content-edited="true"> <span><img height="55" width="173" src="cid:65F22F96-B123-4BC0-915C-A79100B0D074"></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Arial Narrow'; "><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">IngeniousPeoplesKnowledge</span></div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-variant: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-variant: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial Narrow"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Arial 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lly, this can be<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">understood as pelvis (literally holding a space for everything stacked on<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">top) and brain (seeing, visioning, choosing and directing).  the whole thing<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">mediated by heart in the middle.  so you can find your way between the two<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">roles you've identified by following heart, same as navigating learning and<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">contributing as participant using law of two feet.  so the practice is to<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">refine your pulsation between the two, until they look and feel like the<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">same "being".<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">two cautions, or mileposts really, on the way...<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">first, while you're pulsing back and forth, i find it's easy to get lost.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">yes, sometimes that means getting caught up in conversation, letting<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">attention focus locally and forgetting about the larger space, maybe<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">forgetting to ring the bells for evening news, for instance.  it's helpful<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">to have partners to remind you, or to ring them for you.  in the same way,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">it is also possible to accidentally not be fully present in a breakout<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">session, to be not fully local, and in that state, be offering views of the<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">world that nobody else sees or can understand, cuz they don't have this<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">larger view of space.  the caution isn't about not sharing, but about<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">recognizing that it's possible to do, possible to try to be in a breakout<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">session but bringing experiences that are totally foreign to those who are<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">apparently your colleagues and partners in the group.  this not an<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">unfamiliar situation for leaders who regularly have more information, a<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">wider view, that those in the "trenches" in an organizaiton.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">the second caution or noting here is less obvious, or peculiar to straddling<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">the facilitation/participation divide in open space.  i don't think fr.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">brian will mind if i tell a story about osonos in oz to illustrate.  he was<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">facilitator and host, but also a member of the community.  he ran a great<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">event, facilitated the whole thing "by the book".  there was somebody there,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">however, who had not had firsthand experience with our approach.  she also<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">knew that brian was a priest.  when she had a difficult time with how things<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">were going in open space, and discomforts do naturally arise for<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">participants at various and random moments, her experience with "priest"<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">allowed her to dump responsibility for difficulties on "how the facilitator<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">is", what he's doing, how he's run things, etc.  all of that story she was<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">making was nonesense and after a long talk, she understood that her<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">difficulty came from what he wasn't and didn't do.  it was the openess of<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">the space, the press of responsibility and reality that was making her<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">squirm.  so it was the combination of *her* newness in open space and her<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">(in this case rather thin) connection to brian that allowed her to make up a<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">story that was getting in her way.  so if you have colleagues new to this<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">experience and you are still known as some sort of 'leader' or just some<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">sort of guy to these folks, they might be confused by what is open space,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">what is you, what is you as leader and what you as facilitator, and so on.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">in the end, this is just a noticing that such confusion is possible.  there<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">is nothing to "do" about it, other than know it's there and possible.  if<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">you notice it along the way in your meeting, and maybe it'll be there or<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">maybe it won't, then all the clarity you will bring to the process from the<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">very beginning, is all you will or can or should bring to that moment.  just<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">be as clean in both roles as you can, and as clear about what is you and<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">what is reality of org/world, and it's all still open space, or not.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">good luck!  i hope you'll find this is a great and fun practice, and come<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">back and tell some of the internal story of how it goes for you...<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">m<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 8:07 AM, Jack Martin Leith<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><<a href="mailto:jack@jackmartinleith.com">jack@jackmartinleith.com</a>> wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Harrison, those are some of the wisest words I've ever read. Thank you!<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Jack<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">2008/5/21 Harrison Owen <<a href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net">hhowen@verizon.net</a>>:<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Marc – I have done what you are proposing (actively participate in a<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">gathering I facilitate) on multiple occasions and have never encountered any<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">problems, and I rather think you will have a similar experience. I would<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">never suggest that you try such a thing if it were your first experience<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">facilitating an Open Space, but that is obviously not the case.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">The art of Holding Space is of course critical and because it is so<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">different from what most people have come to understand "facilitation" to<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">mean – it is just too easy for the first time facilitator to get sucked into<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">the action and forget to mind the store. But with experience, at least in my<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">experience, you can keep that old intuitive sense alive and functioning even<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">when actively engaged in a conversation of passionate concern to you. As I<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">think about it, this is probably where we all hope to end up anyhow. At some<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">level every conversation is an Open Space, and the more open the space, the<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">better the conversation. And a really great conversation has a powerful<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">(passionate) focus while still being open to everything else that is going<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">on in the environment.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Approaching the same thoughts from a slightly different point of view, I<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">find that when a group really begins to groove/cook/work – space holding is<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">a community activity. In fact, enabling a group to reach a point where it<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">will effectively "hold its own space," might well be the Holy Grail of OST.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">So anyhow, I would think that rather than a problem, you have a real<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">opportunity to enhance your own capacity as facilitator by moving into that<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">marvelously "zeny" place where you are simultaneously attached and<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">non-attached – passionately concerned about an issue and always free to move<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">beyond. And if you want to share this opportunity with your colleagues<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">(different people opening space every day) that would work for me, or at<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">least it always has.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Have fun!<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Harrison<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Harrison Owen<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">7808 River Falls Drive<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Potomac, Maryland   20854<br></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kquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">I myself over the last 2 years have organised/ facilitated approx. 20 OS<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">all over the world (from Switzerland to South Africa, from Indonesia to<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Ethiopia), some as large as 70 participants (unfortunately I never had the<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">opportunity for a larger group - would love to try that!), some as small as<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">5 persons - and I (as well as the participants!) enjoy it greatly each time!<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">We, the KM4Dev (a global community of practice on Knowledge Management<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">for Development; <a href="http://www.km4dev.org">http://www.km4dev.org</a>) have decided to run this year's<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">annual meeting over 2.5 days entirely as an OS. We are about four persons<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">who have already facilitated OS and are preparing the facilitation of the<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">event.<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">However, all of the four of us are also greatly interested in the topics<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">which will be discussed, it's certain that we also want to propose topics<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">for groups to work on. Therefore my question:<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Is it possible, that a facilitator opens the Open Space, but once the<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">market place starts, she/ he will transform into a regular participant and<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">mingle with the rest? I always attached great importance to "holding space"<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">- I have never been doing anything actively, I have done my best to get out<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">of the way, however I have been there, almost invisible, but still...<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Do you have any experience or advice on whether the facilitator can give<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">up her/ his role and become a normal participant until to the closing<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">circle?<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Alternatively, do you have any thoughts about rotating faciliators:<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">person A doing it on the first day, B on the second day, so that we all have<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">the opportunity to participate in the discussions with our own topics? I<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">guess none of us would want to limit her/ himself for the full duration to<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">just holding space...<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Your experience is much appreciated!<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">-marc<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">IngeniousPeoplesKnowledge<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Marc Steinlin<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><a href="mailto:marc.steinlin@i-p-k.ch">marc.steinlin@i-p-k.ch</a><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Skype: marcsteinlin<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">PO Box 27494<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Rhine Road<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Sea Point<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">8050 Cape Town<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Republic of South Africa<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Mobile: +27 (76) 222 81 12<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote t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