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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=red face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>Marc – I have done what you are
proposing (actively participate in a gathering I facilitate) on multiple
occasions and have never encountered any problems, and I rather think you will
have a similar experience. I would never suggest that you try such a thing if
it were your first experience facilitating an Open Space, but that is obviously
not the case. </span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=red face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>The art of Holding Space is of course critical
and because it is so different from what most people have come to understand “facilitation”
to mean – it is just too easy for the first time facilitator to get sucked
into the action and forget to mind the store. But with experience, at least in
my experience, you can keep that old intuitive sense alive and functioning even
when actively engaged in a conversation of passionate concern to you. As I
think about it, this is probably where we all hope to end up anyhow. At some
level every conversation is an Open Space, and the more open the space, the
better the conversation. And a really great conversation has a powerful
(passionate) focus while still being open to everything else that is going on
in the environment.</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=red face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>Approaching the same thoughts from a
slightly different point of view, I find that when a group really begins to
groove/cook/work – space holding is a community activity. In fact,
enabling a group to reach a point where it will effectively “hold its own
space,” might well be the Holy Grail of OST.</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=red face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>So anyhow, I would think that rather than a
problem, you have a real opportunity to enhance your own capacity as
facilitator by moving into that marvelously “zeny” place where you
are simultaneously attached and non-attached – passionately concerned
about an issue and always free to move beyond. And if you want to share this
opportunity with your colleagues (different people opening space every day)
that would work for me, or at least it always has.</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Marc Steinlin (I-P-K)<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, May 20, 2008 1:18
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Going underground as
facilitator</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt'>Dear OS list members,</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>I have been following this list for almost two years
now and have enjoyed many of your conversations, learnings, ideas and
inspirational thoughts! Many thanks for all that valuable insight and
encouragement!</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>I myself over the last 2 years have organised/
facilitated approx. 20 OS all over the world (from Switzerland to South Africa,
from Indonesia to Ethiopia), some as large as 70 participants (unfortunately I
never had the opportunity for a larger group - would love to try that!), some
as small as 5 persons - and I (as well as the participants!) enjoy it greatly
each time!</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>We, the KM4Dev (a global community of practice on
Knowledge Management for Development; <a href="http://www.km4dev.org">http://www.km4dev.org</a>)
have decided to run this year's annual meeting over 2.5 days entirely as an OS.
We are about four persons who have already facilitated OS and are preparing the
facilitation of the event.</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>However, all of the four of us are also greatly
interested in the topics which will be discussed, it's certain that we also
want to propose topics for groups to work on. Therefore my question:</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Is it possible, that a facilitator opens the Open
Space, but once the market place starts, she/ he will transform into a regular
participant and mingle with the rest? I always attached great importance to
"holding space" - I have never been doing anything actively, I have
done my best to get out of the way, however I have been there, almost
invisible, but still...</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Do you have any experience or advice on whether the
facilitator can give up her/ his role and become a normal participant until to
the closing circle?</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt'>Alternatively, do you have any thoughts about rotating
faciliators: person A doing it on the first day, B on the second day, so that
we all have the opportunity to participate in the discussions with our own
topics? I guess none of us would want to limit her/ himself for the full
duration to just holding space...</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Your experience is much appreciated!</span></font></p>

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