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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Christine wrote:</span></font><font face=Calibri><span
style='font-family:Calibri'> “</span></font><font face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial'>Beyond the "meeting" the principles of Open
Space guide our life and work.  I find that those who engage in Open Space
appreciate the principles as much as they do the process.”</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Which might suggest, Christine, that all of life is open
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<p align=center style='text-align:center'><font size=2 color=red face=Arial><span
 style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>Harrison Owen</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>7808 River Falls Drive</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>Potomac,
Maryland   20854</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>Phone </span></font><font size=2 color=red face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
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<p align=center style='text-align:center'><font size=2 color=red face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>Skype hhowen</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>Open Space Training</span></font><font
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>Open Space Institute</span></font><font
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face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>www.openspaceworld.org</span></font></a></span></font></p>

<p align=center style='text-align:center'><font size=3 color=red face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>Personal website</span></font><font
color=red><span style='color:red'> <a href="http://www.ho-image.com/"><font
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>www.ho-image.com</span></font></a> </span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Christine Whitney Sanchez<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, May 09, 2008 1:59 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: Open Space 2.0 -
Beyond the Dogma</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=navy
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:navy'>Beyond
the "meeting" the principles of Open Space guide our life and work.</span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'> </span></font><font color=navy
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri;color:navy'> I find that those
who engage in Open Space appreciate the principles as much as they do the
process.</span></font></p>

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face="Lucida Handwriting"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Handwriting";
color:navy'>Christine</span></font></i></em></p>

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face=Calibri><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:navy'>Christine
Whitney Sanchez</span></font></p>

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color=navy face=Calibri><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
color:navy;font-style:italic'>CWS - Collaborative Wisdom & Strategy</span></font></i></b></strong></p>

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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'><a
href="http://www.christinewhitneysanchez.com/"><font size=2 face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>www.christinewhitneysanchez.com</span></font></a></span></font><font
size=2 color=navy face=Calibri><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
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color:green'>Please consider the environment before you print this email</span></font></b></strong></p>

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.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Harrison Owen<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, May 08, 2008 4:09
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: Open Space 2.0 -
Beyond the Dogma</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=red face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>Omitting mention of the 4
Principles certainly can be done, but I am not sure that would change things in
any substantial way. The reason being that the Principles are descriptive as
opposed to prescriptive. In short, they will happen anyway, mentioned or not.
However, one might reasonably ask – why state the obvious? My reason has
always been that keeping the principles in mind seems to ease the way in Open Space.</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>Harrison</span></font></p>

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color=red face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:red'>Harrison Owen</span></font></p>

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color=red face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:red'>7808 River Falls Drive</span></font></p>

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color=red face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:red'>Potomac, Maryland   20854</span></font></p>

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color=red face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:red'>Phone 301-365-2093</span></font></p>

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color=red face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:red'>Skype hhowen</span></font></p>

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color=red face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:red'>Open Space Training</span></font><font color=red><span
style='color:red'> <a href="http://www.openspaceworld.com/"><font face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial'>www.openspaceworld.com</span></font></a> </span></font></p>

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color=red face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:red'>Open Space Institute</span></font><font color=red><span
style='color:red'> <a href="http://www.openspaceworld.org/"><font face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial'>www.openspaceworld.org</span></font></a></span></font></p>

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color=red face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:red'>Personal website</span></font><font color=red><span
style='color:red'> <a href="http://www.ho-image.com/"><font face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial'>www.ho-image.com</span></font></a> </span></font></p>

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color=red face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:red'>OSLIST: To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Jack Martin Leith<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, May 04, 2008 8:16 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: Open Space 2.0 -
Beyond the Dogma</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt'>Hiya Tree.</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Thanks for your thoughts on my <Open Space 2.0 -
Beyond the Dogma> post.</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Has OS become arthritic? And are certain Open
Space practitioners becoming dogmatic?</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt'>Here in the UK the answer is "yes".</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>I've been to two gatherings of OS practitioners, both
held in London (I was the co-creator of the first one) and anyone
wandering in from the street would probably have thought they were
witnessing a meeting of a religious group or a cult.</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt'>At the second of these gatherings, structured along
"Open Space on Open Space" lines, Paul Levy led a session that
challenged the four principles of Open Space, and was shot down in flames by a
number of people.</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>And a year ago he advertised, on this very email
list, a workshop with a similar theme to the one he and I are running in
Brighton next week, and received from a prominent OS practitioner what ca bes
be described as hate mail.</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Thanks for your invitation to share more of my
thoughts. You can find plenty of them here <a
href="http://www.jackmartinleith.com/?p=191">www.jackmartinleith.com/?p=191</a>
and here <a href="http://www.jackmartinleith.com/?p=192">www.jackmartinleith.com/?p=192</a>,
along with some thoughts expressed by people beyond this list. The purpose of
the 14 May workshop is to discover what other people think.</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt'>My aim (I can't speak for Paul) is not for
'better' space at meetings, but for a process which is most likely to deliver
the desired results. Which results? Those that will generate as much value as
possible for as many parts of the stakeholder system as possible. I don't
see myself as a process facilitator, but rather as a results facilitator. As in
midwifery, a healthy mother and baby are the first priority. The process has to
serve the results. My personal preference is for natural methods, but I keep
forceps in my back pocket and a scalpel in a glass box, for emergency use only.</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt'>If you'd like to take part in the discussion through
Skype, the user name is <rationalmadness> and the timing is 1400 to 1600
British Summer Time, which is one hour ahead of GMT.</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt'>Jack Martin Leith<br>
Bristol, United Kingdom<br>
Mobile: 07831 840541 (+44 7831 840541)<br>
Skype: jackmartinleith<br>
Facebook: <a href="http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=725422325">www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=725422325</a><br>
Facebook group on Open Space Technology: <a
href="http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=7189220743">www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=7189220743</a><br>
LinkedIn: <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/jackmartinleith">www.linkedin.com/in/jackmartinleith</a><br>
email: <a href="mailto:jack@jackmartinleith.com">jack@jackmartinleith.com</a><br>
<a href="http://www.jackmartinleith.com">www.jackmartinleith.com</a> </span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt'>2008/5/4 Tree Fitzpatrick <<a
href="mailto:therese.fitzpatrick@gmail.com">therese.fitzpatrick@gmail.com</a>>:</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt'>On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 6:01 AM, Jack Martin Leith
<<a href="mailto:jack@jackmartinleith.com" target="_blank">jack@jackmartinleith.com</a>>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>Hiya Harrison.</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt'>Happy that you're not offended by our undertaking!</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt'>Maybe it's different on your side of the pond, but
Paul and I have both, separately, noticed the worrying extent to which OS
certainly has become a dogma over here, sometimes along with the words
"Harrison Owen" says. (I must put my hand up to having done that many
times.) We both feel that OS has become somewhat arthritic, and overdue for a
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Open Space Technology is what it is.  Right?  How can it become
arthritic?  I am challenged by your suggestion but I hope you don't
perceive that I am challenging you.  I am genuinely puzzled.  I would
welcome more of you thoughts, perhaps some examples of how OS is changing?<br>
<br>
How can OS 'become' anything?  It is what it is.<br>
<br>
I am wondering if, when you suggest that it is due for a 'rethink', perhaps you
are seeing something else, or striving to see something else. Perhaps you have
a (inchoate?) yearning for, please forgive me, 'better' space at meetings.<br>
<br>
I don't have Harrison's depth of experience opening sepace, but I
wholeheartedly agree with what he says about 'second generation open
space'.  When in doubt, open more space and if opening more space brings
me to a place of doing nothing, well, for me, then I know I'm doing it right.<br>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>What you say is perfectly true, and I agree
wholeheartedly ... although I'm personaly keen on conversation that
precipitates action ... but all too often it's very different on the ground.</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt'>Big thanks for your support and encouragement. We'll keep
you posted. Steve the Doc has already signed up for the Skype option.</span></font></p>

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Martin Leith<br>
Bristol, United Kingdom<br>
Mobile: 07831 840541 (+44 7831 840541)<br>
Skype: jackmartinleith<br>
Facebook: <a href="http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=725422325"
target="_blank">www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=725422325</a><br>
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href="http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=7189220743" target="_blank">www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=7189220743</a><br>
LinkedIn: <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/jackmartinleith" target="_blank">www.linkedin.com/in/jackmartinleith</a><br>
email: <a href="mailto:jack@jackmartinleith.com" target="_blank">jack@jackmartinleith.com</a><br>
<a href="http://www.jackmartinleith.com/" target="_blank">www.jackmartinleith.com</a>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>2008/4/30 Harrison Owen <<a
href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net" target="_blank">hhowen@verizon.net</a>>: </span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>Sounds like a marvelous
under taking, but I am not sure about all this "Dogma" business. Dogma
in my lexicon is a whole bunch of stuff that you have to do/believe. My
experience with OST is that it is all about thinking of one more thing NOT to
do – or believe. The end of the line, or indeed the next iteration, would
involve doing nothing at all, and where "belief" translated into pure
experience. You were just "there" in that present moment being fully
what you (we) already were – full, conscious, passionate, responsible
human beings. My experience with most of the 2<sup>nd</sup> Generation Open
Spaces is that they seem to involve more and different doing and believing. To
my eyes this seems to be going in the wrong direction. But what do I
know?  Have fun!!</span></font></p>

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