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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hi Gerardo,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>This response is too late to be of much
use, but I think that your proposed solution could work well, although it would
be great if it could be framed as one Open Space event with an intermission, so
that the people who are attending earlier in the day will be more likely to
stay for the later portion and connect with the people who come later.
Whatever happens…</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Wingdings><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:navy'>J</span></font><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Spero che voi siete bene!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Tante belle cose,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Karen<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#409F9D'>Karen Sella </span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color="#409f9d" face=Arial><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#409F9D'>Coaching: </span></font><font
size=1 color="#408080" face=Arial><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:
Arial;color:#408080'><a href="http://www.luminacoaching.com">www.luminacoaching.com</a></span></font><font
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color="#409f9d" face=Arial><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#409F9D'>Consulting: </span></font><font
size=1 color="#408080" face=Arial><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:
Arial;color:#408080'><a href="http://www.integralventures.com">www.integralventures.com</a></span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#409F9D'>Blog: </span></font><font
size=1 color="#408080" face=Arial><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:
Arial;color:#408080'><a href="http://www.lumina.typepad.com">www.lumina.typepad.com</a></span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color="#409f9d" face=Arial><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#409F9D'>Phone: 1.206.780.2998</span></font><font
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style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#409F9D'>Skype: karensella</span></font><font
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName> [mailto:<st1:PersonName w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>gerardo de
luzenberger<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, April 02, 2008
1:25 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> struggling with a client
to create time and space (rather long)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=maroon face=Helvetica><span lang=IT
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:maroon'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=maroon face=Helvetica><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:maroon'>Hi. In these days
here in <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:country-region w:st="on">Italy</st1:country-region></st1:place>
I’m struggling with a client who want to make an OS. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=maroon face=Helvetica><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:maroon'>It’s a municipality
where I already did a one day OS that was a success on the possible reuses of a
dismissed factory. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=maroon face=Helvetica><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:maroon'>Now the issue is
one road, full of bar and night clubs and where residents are increasingly
complaining for noise etc.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=maroon face=Helvetica><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:maroon'>I suggested to put
all the system in the room (barkeepers, residents, civil servants and clients)
to understand how this situation could be solved.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=maroon face=Helvetica><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:maroon'>Now the problem is
how to schedule the session. Originally they asked me to make a 4 hours OS (I
know MMP what are you thinking now), from 6pm to 10pm. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=maroon face=Helvetica><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:maroon'>This cause in order
to make participate clients, residents etc we should work after business hours.
Barkeepers should not be a problem cause we will work on Monday, day in which
most of the bar are closed. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=maroon face=Helvetica><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:maroon'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=maroon face=Helvetica><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:maroon'>I replied that to
make something that could have sense we need longer. At the end we agreed on
doing a 7 hours open space (from 3pm to 10pm), hoping that having announced
two months in advance the event people that care would take a day off.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=maroon face=Helvetica><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:maroon'>Now the date of the
event is quite close. Today I received a phone call from this client. He
explained me that some people complained for the OS schedule, saying that being
busy at work they could not attend. But that on the other hand they have
already advertised OS as starting at 3pm and ending at 10pm. They added
to this that, given the schedule, we will probably have different participants
for different time. Residents that are retired from 3pm to 7 pm, and workers
from 6pm to 23.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=maroon face=Helvetica><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:maroon'>So, he asked me to
run the OS in two different sessions. On from 3pm to 6pm (he said for retired
people), the other one from 6pm to 23 pm for workers.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=maroon face=Helvetica><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:maroon'>My first reply was
NO, this is not possible. But my feeling is that I need to find an innovative
solution to their requests. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=maroon face=Helvetica><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:maroon'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=maroon face=Helvetica><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:maroon'>So I’m thinking of
a programme like this:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=maroon face=Helvetica><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:maroon'>I will open the
space at 3pm (that in <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:country-region w:st="on">Italy</st1:country-region></st1:place>
means later around 3 an a half pm, but you never know). <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=maroon face=Helvetica><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:maroon'>Then, when the
agenda is ready, one session of 90 minutes. At 6pm a 30 minutes break in order
to welcome late comers.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=maroon face=Helvetica><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:maroon'>Then a sort of
morning news and a quick explanation of the programme, the principles,
the one law etc . Time to add new issues, and then back to work.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=maroon face=Helvetica><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:maroon'>To be honest I’m
not really convinced with this solution, but in this moment I have no idea
about how to approach this situation.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=maroon face=Helvetica><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:maroon'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=maroon face=Helvetica><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:maroon'>And as you can
imagine ideas and suggestions are really welcome.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=maroon face=Helvetica><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:maroon'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=maroon face=Helvetica><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:maroon'>Hugs<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=maroon face=Helvetica><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:maroon'>ge<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy;font-weight:bold'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
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lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;color:maroon'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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lang=IT style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'><img border=0 width=133 height=135
id="_x0000_i1030" src="cid:image001.jpg@01C8943D.0D870ED0"> </span></font><font
color=navy><span lang=EN-GB style='color:navy'>n some way </span></font><font
color=maroon><span lang=EN-GB style='color:maroon'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><st1:PersonName ProductID="Gerardo de Luzenberger" w:st="on"><strong><b><font
size=3 color=blue face="Trebuchet MS"><span lang=IT style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Trebuchet MS";color:blue'>Gerardo de Luzenberger</span></font></b></strong></st1:PersonName><font
color=maroon><span lang=IT style='color:maroon'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><strong><b><font size=3 color="#ff8000" face="Trebuchet MS"><span
lang=IT style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS";color:#FF8000'>SSF -
Scuola Superiore di Facilitazione</span></font></b></strong><font color=maroon><span
lang=IT style='color:maroon'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><U1:PERSONNAME u2:st="on" ProductID="Via Alessandro"><st1:PersonName
ProductID="Via Alessandro" w:st="on"><font size=2 color=blue face="Trebuchet MS"><span
lang=IT style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS";color:blue'>Via
Alessandro</U1:PERSONNAME></span></font></st1:PersonName><font size=2
color=blue face="Trebuchet MS"><span lang=IT style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Trebuchet MS";color:blue'> Volta 12</span></font><font
color=maroon><span lang=IT style='color:maroon'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS";color:blue'>tel: +39 02
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title="blocked::mailto:info@scuolafacilitazione.it">ge@scuolafacilitazione.it</span></span></a>
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Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.3/1354 - Release Date: 4/1/2008 5:38 AM<BR>
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