from another michael here, martin...<br><br>this question you asked of michaelmp, raises an important distinction. people often ask me similar, little more general question: "how does open space lead to action. nice to have all the conversations, but what about getting to action?"<br>
<br>to this question, i always point out that we 'invite' action. but that we do the inviting in the opening. when 200 or 300 people sort their world into 50 or 70 breakout sessions in the opening, same for small groups and smaller numbers of issues, of course -- that IS action. just because it's usually hashed out in weeks or months from office chairs, doesn't mean it's any different in conference room chairs when it only takes an hour!<br>
<br>then, recognizing that action continues throughout the meeting, your question about how to get there seems really about how not to break the flow that already is. the surest way, to break the flow that is, is to send it to the chief for review. or worse yet, to have the typing and distributing of notes be long delayed or never happen.<br>
<br>the best way to keep things going, on the other hand, is to keep ongoing the things we've already done: inviting, conversing, and documenting in a way that includes everbody.<br><br>some time ago we coined the term 'non-converging' for the practice of 're-opening' the space at the end. goes like this: open the space, have the conversations, publish the notes, give them out as the next invitation (usually near the end of the event), 're-open' the space with the question of 'what's next?' often focusing on convening conversations about 'next steps' or 'actions' or 'projects' that need to be established for continuing the work into the 'real world' of the everyday working, in the desk chairs again.<br>
<br>mherman<br><br><br><br> <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Martin Boroson <<a href="mailto:marty@becomingme.com">marty@becomingme.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Great discussion. I'm very interested in this evolution of our understanding,
and thanks to everyone for sharing your experience and wisdom. </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">I assumed that the ability to facilitate 'natural convergence' is one
of the most wonderful, magical, and marketable features of OST, and that the
voting process, far from forcing consensus on a group, is just a way to reveal
that convergence in a more obvious way (if it wasn't clear already). </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">But on a more practical note, let me ask:</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">- <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Harrison</span></b>,
I'd still love to know how you use five dots!</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">- <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Michael</span></b>, I'd love to
know you facilitate a group in moving from reading the book of proceedings
'directly' to action planning. </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Thanks … </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Marty</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"><div class="Ih2E3d">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: OSLIST [mailto:<a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" target="_blank">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a>] On Behalf Of Michael
M Pannwitz<br>
Sent: 07 March 2008 08:45<br>
To: <a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" target="_blank">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a><br></div><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">
Subject: Re: Convergence for Group Consensus</div></div></span></font></p><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">After working for a while "by the book" and doing the 55 dots
</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">convergence followed by action planning around the 7 most highly voted </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">issues I came to the conclusion that I, clients,the real business issue
</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">at hand, the world, etc. dont benefit much from consensus (especially
by </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">voting) but get real mileage out of PASSION.</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Since then I have successfully convinced clients/sponsors to move </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">directly from the divergent phase closed by reading the book of </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">proceedings to action planning.</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Open Space Technology from where I stand is an action orienting (not </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">"action oriented")process that runs on passion and
responsibility. Of </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">course, following that course seems risky to many, lets have consensus </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">first. My repeated experience in OST events has been, however, that </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">regardless of what "consensus" processes produced, action
required </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">needed passion and responsibility. Projects evolved independent,
outside </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">of, in contrast to the "consensus" apparently found in
"convergence" and </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">the issue with the highest number of dots led to no direct action
...and </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">that has to do with letting go of control. So one of my suspicions has </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">been that the call for consensus is also fed by control needs that
close </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">space rather than keeping it open.</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Greetings from Berlin</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">mmp</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Harrison Owen wrote:</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> Marty said: Here are my two questions:</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> a) In the Users Manual, you say that "with a sizable
group (fifty and</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> larger), electronic tallying is infinitely preferred."
But in this email,</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> you say that "with small groups (<100) Sticky dots do the
job."</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> b) In the Users Manual, you recommend the use of 55 sticky
dots per person,</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> but in your email, you recommend just 5. In the quest for
simplicity, it</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> seems you have removed about 5 per year!</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> My Answer --</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> Consistency was never one of my virtues. And when it comes to
closure</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> (consensus or otherwise) I recommend Sniffy. Works every time, but
you may</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> not be asked back! But I never was a real fan of consensus. Moving
the</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> business seemed more important.</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> Harrison </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> Harrison Owen</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> 7808 River Falls
Drive</span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> -----Original Message-----</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> From: OSLIST [mailto:<a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" target="_blank">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a>] On Behalf Of Martin</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> Boroson</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 5:34 PM</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> To: <a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" target="_blank">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a></span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> Subject: Re: Convergence for Group Consensu</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> Harrison</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> I checked the Users Manual (always next to my desk) on
convergence, as you</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> suggested.</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> Forgive me for quoting you back to you, but there are a couple of</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> differences between what you said in the Manual and what you've
written</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> below, and I'm really interested in understanding how your
thinking/practice</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> has evolved in the last ten years. (I'm also planning a
couple of 3-day</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> events where formal convergence and voting is very important to
the</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> clients.)</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> Here are my two questions:</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> a) In the Users Manual, you say that "with a sizable
group (fifty and</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> larger), electronic tallying is infinitely preferred."
But in this email,</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> you say that "with small groups (<100) Sticky dots do the
job."</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> b) In the Users Manual, you recommend the use of 55 sticky
dots per person,</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> but in your email, you recommend just 5. In the quest for
simplicity, it</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> seems you have removed about 5 per year!</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> :)</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> Many thanks,</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> Marty</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> -----Original Message-----</span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> Owen</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> Sent: 04 March 2008 13:15</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> To: <a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" target="_blank">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a></span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> Subject: Re: Convergence for Group Consensu</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> Pretty simple -- Sticky dots or voting. (Details all in the User's</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> Guide)With small groups (<100) Sticky dots do the job. Just
give everybody</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> the same number of dots (5 works well) and invite them to past
their dots on</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> the Issue(s) they love. They can place all the dots, a few or
none. Then</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> count the dots or just eyeball it.</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> Harrison </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> Harrison Owen</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> 7808 River Falls
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<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> -----Original Message-----</span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> Willing</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 11:09 PM</span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> Subject: Convergence for Group Consensu</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> Does anyone have any experience or advice in 'converging' open
space, in </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> such a way that the emerging consensus of the whole group is
identified? </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> Specifically, I have a 2 day event coming up - the purpose of
which is to </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> develop a best practice framework for reporting on the topic, and
at least </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> to develop a check list of issues to be addressed in preparing
such a </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> reporting framework. </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> Day 1 could be spent diverging (in Open Space) and I am wondering
how best </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> to converge on Day 2, given that one outcome mine host would like
to see, </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> is an articulation of the level of agreement of the whole group on
certain </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> matters.</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> With thanks,</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">> Kim.</span></font></p>
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