<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">Does this community have a wiki that "explicitly" documents knowledge shared on list - around ideas and concepts so that it lives somewhere other then just "the list archives" this is not a good format for retrieval by others in the future. <DIV> It is a pattern of effective open source communities to do so.</DIV><DIV> Just wondering.</DIV><DIV> =kaliya</DIV><DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On Nov 16, 2007, at 12:23 PM, Peggy Holman wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Hi Kerry,</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Yes, that's definitely the direction I'm<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>heading - essentially fund the underlying strategy of growing community on many scales - including Earth community in different settings.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Thanks for your framing of it.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Peggy</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">----- Original Message ----- From: "kerry napuk" <<A href="mailto:k@napuk.demon.co.uk">k@napuk.demon.co.uk</A>></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">To: <<A href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</A>></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 3:41 AM</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Subject: [OSLIST] more funding community work?</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Peggy & Doug</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Helpful redefinition of the question "how can we find funding sources to do the difficult and innovative work of bringing communities together?"</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Maybe we should do some lateral thinking.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Traditionally, we respond to a sponsor with a specific problem where the application of a large group process, especially OS, is an effective way to bring people together to create a way forward or a shared future. <SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Perhaps we should turn this approach on its head by<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>presenting the process as a means for a concerned funding source to promote community building and participatory democracy distinct from and alternative to specific organisational initiatives and sponsorship.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">In other words, can OS be made attractive as a generic process that a civil institution would support as an offering to the Community?<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Is there something in your country like the UK's Roundtree Foundation that funds projects to reform or expand the political process?<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Is there a credible and progressive think tank that shares OS values and would put together a programme and find funding?<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>If so, would it be worth making a proposal by a group of practitioners or even an OS institute to fund the generic application of OS to Communities and present it to a foundation or think tank?<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Once the process is piloted, it can be rolled out to more people and places.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Public decision making and politics clearly are failing and desparately need to find new ways to involve more people.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Conventional approaches no longer work.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Rather, public decision making continues to fall into fewer and fewer hands and, more often than not, is hidden from "public" view until it is too late to change except to protest.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>OS has the fantastic ability<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>to be organised quickly and involve large numbers who have the passion (care about an issue)<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>and do something about it (take responsibility.)</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Does this make any sense?</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; 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