We have found the value of that honest and clear voice of the younger children to far outweigh the wiggliness they sometimes also bring. Our experience with our own children is that they have a very strong interior sense of when something is too intense for them and they will use thier two feet very smoothly and quickly, particularly when they trust that the space is truly welcoming of their judgement and movement and they can see they have somewhere else to go. Given that the law of two feet is something that is often not encouraged in a school setting, it would be great to open space in a way that really makes this really clear to them.
<br><br>Looking forward to hearing more,<br><br>Caitlin.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Nov 14, 2007 12:44 PM, Harrison Owen <<a href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net">hhowen@verizon.net</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<p><font color="red" face="Arial" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;">Well one thing about younger kids is that
they very often ask the questions that are on everybody's mind but nobody
dares ask. So I guess you might miss that. Could be a real show stopper –
or just take the whole affair to new and different levels. One thing I would be
pretty sure of is that there would be few issues of significance that all the
kids don't already know about. They may have things a little confused and
a little transparent discussion could clear away some of the shadows.</span></font></p>
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[mailto:<a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" target="_blank">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a>] <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">On
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, November 14, 2007
11:54 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" target="_blank">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: Open Space in
Arab/Jewish School</span></font></p>
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<p style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;" lang="EN-GB">Harrison, </span></font></p>
<p style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;" lang="EN-GB">Thanks for
your response. I am presenting the idea to the central parents' committee
tonite. I've heard some concern about some of the "heavier"
issues being discussed with younger children involved. I'm not sure what
I think about that. As a Jewish – Arab school with some fairly loaded
issues, it more or less requires an essential shift in the way people see
things to have a truly open space with first graders and political heavies in
the same event. </span></font></p>
<p style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;" lang="EN-GB">What do you
see as the damage we will do if we limit the thing to sixth-ninth graders,
along with everyone else? The gain? Yoav </span></font></p>
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[mailto:<a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" target="_blank">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a>] <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">On
Behalf Of </span></b>Harrison Owen<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, November 12, 2007
9:59 PM<br>
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<p style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="red" face="Arial" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: red;">Yoav – Sounds like a
lot of fun, and there is indeed some experience in the area. Some time ago in
Seattle (USA) one school began each year with an Open Space for everybody. All
the folks that you are talking about – and it turned out to be quite a
bunch, something like the 400 you are talking about. But everything seemed to
work just like usual. In fact it worked much better than things usually worked
at school. For one thing teachers actually talked to students and the students
reciprocated. Parents were involved, really involved. Not to mention the cooks,
custodians, security and administration. You should have a grand time and we
look forward to hearing the results. Only suggestion I have is to make sure you
have plenty of space. That many people, particularly active, vocal, young
people need a lot of space. And if the younger grades are involved (they should
be) you might think about having ½ hour to 45 min sessions. Attention spans are
on the short side, but the Law of Two Feet usually takes care of any problems.</span></font></p>
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> OSLIST
[mailto:<a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" target="_blank">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a>] <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">On
Behalf Of </span></b>Yoav Peck<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, November 12, 2007
1:09 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" target="_blank">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: Facilitator as
space-invader!</span></font></p>
<p style="margin-left: 1in;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p style="margin-left: 1in;"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;" lang="EN-GB">I can one-up you, Thomas. In the holy space of Yom Kippur, toward
the end of the full-day fast, as a speaker reached the climax of a talk about
the holiness of silence, believe it or not, <i><span style="font-style: italic;">my</span></i>
cellphone rang. Understand, I run programs on human dignity and cellphone abuse
is one of the examples that come up as people explore the ways in which they
abuse each other's space, and here I was, Dr. Dignity, forgetting to turn
off before entering the synagogue. If people had not been in a Yom Kippur-ish
forgiving mood, I would have been tarred and feathered!</span></font></p>
<p style="margin-left: 1in;"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;" lang="EN-GB"> </span></font></p>
<p style="margin-left: 1in;"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;" lang="EN-GB">Meanwhile, I am promoting our opening space at the Jewish-Arab
school which my daughter attends here in Jerusalem. I'd be happy to hear
from folks who have done this sort of thing. I will be presenting the idea to
the school parents' committee Wednesday, and I'm thinking that we
should go for inviting to the space all teachers, parents, perhaps the older
students (7-9<sup>th</sup> graders) and assorted additional stakeholders. 450
kids learn thee, so it could be a big event. Any thoughts, tips from
people's experience will be appreciated. Thanks much in advance, </span></font></p>
<p style="margin-left: 1in;"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;" lang="EN-GB">Yoav Peck, </span></font><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-family: Arial; color: navy;" lang="EN-GB">
Jerusalem</span></font></p>
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OSLIST
[mailto:<a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" target="_blank">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a>] <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">On
Behalf Of </span></b>Thomas Herrmann<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, November 12, 2007
7:14 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" target="_blank">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Facilitator as
space-invader!</span></font></p>
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<p style="margin-left: 1in;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Hi </span></font></p>
<p style="margin-left: 1in;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">I have a confession to make. I, as
the facilitator, was a space invader today!</span></font></p>
<p style="margin-left: 1in;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Just when I said the final words...I
now invite you to come to the center of the circle....my cell-phone rang!</span></font></p>
<p style="margin-left: 1in;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font></p>
<p style="margin-left: 1in;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Did that ever happen to anyone else
in our community, I wonder??</span></font></p>
<p style="margin-left: 1in;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font></p>
<p style="margin-left: 1in;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Quite funny, actually. – And
of course – it still worked.</span></font></p>
<p style="margin-left: 1in;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Warm regards</span></font></p>
<p style="margin-left: 1in;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Thomas</span></font></p>
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