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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=red face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>Craig -- Happy to be helpful. As for the
Practice of Peace – the edition published by the Human Systems Dynamics
Institute is not much different substantively – but it is certainly a lot
prettier and much better edited.</span></font></p>
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12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>Harrison</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>Harrison Owen</span></font></p>
<p align=center style='text-align:center'><font size=2 color=red face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>7808 River Falls Drive</span></font></p>
<p align=center style='text-align:center'><font size=2 color=red face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>Potomac,
Maryland 20854</span></font></p>
<p align=center style='text-align:center'><font size=2 color=red face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>Phone </span></font><font size=2 color=red face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:red'>301-365-2093</span></font></p>
<p align=center style='text-align:center'><font size=2 color=red face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>Skype hhowen</span></font></p>
<p align=center style='text-align:center'><font size=3 color=red face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>Open Space Training</span></font><font
color=red><span style='color:red'> <a href="http://www.openspaceworld.com/"><font
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>www.openspaceworld.com</span></font></a>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>Open Space Institute</span></font><font
color=red><span style='color:red'> <a href="http://www.openspaceworld.org/"><font
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>www.openspaceworld.org</span></font></a></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>Personal website</span></font><font
color=red><span style='color:red'> <a href="http://www.ho-image.com/"><font
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>www.ho-image.com</span></font></a> </span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Craig Gilliam<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, October 22, 2007
8:39 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: Craig</span></font></p>
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<br>
Thanks for the response. Your thought that grow out of experience are
helpful. <br>
<br>
Oh yeah, is the second edition of your<i><span style='font-style:italic'>The
Practice of Peace </span></i>different from the first printing. I read
the first, and it was excellent. I need to reread it. But instead,
I might order the second, and use it as my reread. Can't seem to get
enough of this stuff!!!<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Craig</span></font></p>
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Mon, 22 Oct 2007 07:30:22 -0400<br>
From: hhowen@verizon.net<br>
Subject: Re: Craig<br>
To: OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>Hi Craig!</span></font></p>
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<p class=NormalWeb1 style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=red face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>1. With approx. 110
people, is your experience best with one large circle or two concentric circles
(keeps it smaller)?</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'> </span></font></p>
<p class=NormalWeb1 style='margin-left:.5in'><i><font size=3 color=red
face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red;
font-style:italic'>I always go for more space – so if you can make it
with one circle, that would be my choice. However at that point people are a
long way from each other so a mike is essential. A big circle with lots of
space is truly awesome, but you do have to run about a bit in order to cover
it. Are you in good shape?</span></font></i></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'> </span></font></p>
<p class=NormalWeb1 style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=red face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>2. A technical
question--If we have to go with two concentric circles because of space, where
I have a beginning number, does any one have experience as to an estimate as to
the number of chairs for the inner and outer circles? I have done it, but
it has been a while. Trying to remember at what number to begin the
experiment as we set up the circles.</span></font></p>
<p class=NormalWeb1 style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=red face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'> </span></font></p>
<p class=NormalWeb1 style='margin-left:.5in'><i><font size=3 color=red
face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red;
font-style:italic'>Don’t have a clue. I would start with the outer circle
and fill in as necessary.</span></font></i></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'> </span></font></p>
<p class=NormalWeb1 style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=red face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>3. In the past, I
usually go with 1 hour and 15 minute sessions. This gathering, even
though the group is more accustomed to 1 hour meetings, I am thinking about
using the 1 and 1/12 time frame for the sessions—knowing that when it is
over, it is over. Any thoughts on your experiences about time—when
it is a longer gathering like this one it seems the 1 and ½ sessions could
allow more freedom or space.</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'> </span></font></p>
<p class=NormalWeb1 style='margin-left:.5in'><i><font size=3 color=red
face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red;
font-style:italic'>For whatever it is worth I always go with 1½ hour sessions
-- unless there is a REALY good reason for smaller time slots. It is a lot more
relaxed, particularly if the breakout spaces are spread out all over the place.</span></font></i></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red;
font-style:italic'> </span></font></i></p>
<p class=NormalWeb1 style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=red face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>4. With a group of
this size, I plan to have Evening News at the end of each day and a closing
news on the last morning. Often, I ask, What have you learned? Do
you suggest staying with that question at the end of each day or do you suggest
something different (In this gathering, I will have two evening news and one
closing news. Generally, I find the closing news the deepest and
longest.)? My other concern at times is the length of such news with this
large number each evening and on the last morning, but I guess, if they get
bored, they can engage the law of two feet. Any thoughts?</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'> </span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red;
font-style:italic'>I am a little curious about a “closing news?”
First off I always try and keep my “News” times brief, especially
in the morning as folks want to go to work. Do you mean a “closing
session” – which comes at the end of everything? That for me is the
time for reflection and sharing. The other news spots are more practical. Like
lost watches and wallets, places to go to dinner, etc. Of course if something
deeper wants to come out, it usually does, and you got to give it space/time.
But don’t let it get away from you time wise else people get tired of it
all. If things tend to go on too long, and I can see that folks are edgy and
want to head for the door, I remind them that the law of two feet is always in
operation – and those who need to – can put one ahead of the other.</span></font></i></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>Have fun!</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>Harrison</span></font></p>
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color:red'>Potomac, Maryland 20854</span></font></p>
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color:red'>Phone 301-365-2093</span></font></p>
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style='font-family:Arial'>www.openspaceworld.com</span></font></a> </span></font></p>
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href="http://www.openspaceworld.org/" target="_blank"><font face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial'>www.openspaceworld.org</span></font></a></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Craig Gilliam<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, October 21, 2007
9:22 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Craig</span></font></p>
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<p class=NormalWeb1 style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>I am getting ready to
lead another Open Space. Please excuse the smallness of these questions,
but I continue to evaluate how I do Open Space, what can I learn, and how can I
do it better?</span></font></p>
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<p class=NormalWeb1 style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>This gathering will start
mid-day, have one full day, then another half-day. My questions are:</span></font></p>
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<p class=NormalWeb1 style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>1. With approx. 110
people, is your experience best with one large circle or two concentric circles
(keeps it smaller)?</span></font></p>
<p class=NormalWeb1 style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=NormalWeb1 style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>2. A technical
question--If we have to go with two concentric circles because of space, where
I have a beginning number, does any one have experience as to an estimate as to
the number of chairs for the inner and outer circles? I have done it, but
it has been a while. Trying to remember at what number to begin the
experiment as we set up the circles.</span></font></p>
<p class=NormalWeb1 style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=NormalWeb1 style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>3. In the past, I
usually go with 1 hour and 15 minute sessions. This gathering, even
though the group is more accustomed to 1 hour meetings, I am thinking about
using the 1 and 1/12 time frame for the sessions—knowing that when it is
over, it is over. Any thoughts on your experiences about time—when
it is a longer gathering like this one it seems the 1 and ½ sessions could
allow more freedom or space.</span></font></p>
<p class=NormalWeb1 style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=NormalWeb1 style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>4. With a group of
this size, I plan to have Evening News at the end of each day and a closing
news on the last morning. Often, I ask, What have you learned? Do
you suggest staying with that question at the end of each day or do you suggest
something different (In this gathering, I will have two evening news and one
closing news. Generally, I find the closing news the deepest and longest.)?
My other concern at times is the length of such news with this large number
each evening and on the last morning, but I guess, if they get bored, they can
engage the law of two feet. Any thoughts?</span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=NormalWeb1 style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Always interested in
learning from your experiences, and how I might do what I do better.</span></font></p>
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<p class=NormalWeb1 style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Thanks,</span></font></p>
<p class=NormalWeb1 style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Craig</span></font></p>
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