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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><SPAN class=268015721-27092007><FONT color=#000000>I'm
deeply appreciative of the input I received from our communities regarding my
query below. As promised, I have compiled all the responses in the order
in which they were received. </FONT></SPAN></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><SPAN class=268015721-27092007><FONT color=#000000>I
have gotten a copy of Roberta's Rules of Order and it looks promising, although
it is designed to work with small nonprofit groups and my situation involves
thousands. What's especially cool about Roberta's Rules of Order
is that it <EM>"attempts to codify a chaordic meeting method" that balances
chaos and order.</EM> And author, Alice Collier Cochran's intention in
developing Roberta's Rules was to bring forward <EM>"methods that
are:</EM></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></P>
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color=#000000><EM>Less formal (Robert is a first name; Robert was Henry
Robert's last name)</EM></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV></LI>
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color=#000000><EM>More feminine (but not just for women) with a softer tone
and nonmilitary language</EM></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV></LI>
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color=#000000><EM>More flexible (so that you can customize them to fit your
organization's culture)"</EM></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV></LI></UL>
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up our alley!</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#000000>Thanks for the generative conversation.</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><SPAN class=268015721-27092007><FONT color=#000000>Warm
regards from cloudy Phoenix,</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV align=left><EM><FONT face="Lucida Handwriting" color=#000080
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<DIV align=left><EM><FONT face="Lucida Handwriting" color=#000080
size=2>Christine</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#000080 size=1></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Verdana color=#000080 size=2>Christine Whitney
Sanchez</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Verdana color=#000080 size=2><EM>CWS - Collaborative
Wisdom & Strategy</EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Verdana color=#000080 size=2>2717 E. Mountain Sky
Avenue</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Verdana color=#000080 size=2>Phoenix, AZ
85048-8990</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Verdana color=#000080
size=2>480.759.0262</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Verdana color=#000080 size=2><A
href="http://www.christinewhitneysanchez.com/">www.christinewhitneysanchez.com</A>
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<DIV></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><SPAN
class=268015721-27092007><FONT color=#000000>(My original
query)</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><FONT color=#000000>Hi All,<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><FONT color=#000000>I'm in conversation with a large
membership organization about using participatory methods at their delegate
convention.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>For the past 50
conventions they have used Robert's Rules of Order for their decision
making.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>They fully realize just how
tedious and antiquated a process that is and they are eager to open the dialogue
during the business meeting.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>But
they are understandably concerned about the impact of engaging in high
engagement processes such as AI Interviews, World Cafe discussions and Open
Space Technology meetings and then switching to something so linear and formal
as Robert's Rules for voting on the proposals before the
delegate<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><FONT color=#000000>body.<SPAN
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</SPAN><o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><FONT color=#000000>I'm hoping for stories of membership
organizations that have successfully used something other than Robert's Rules as
the decision making process.<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><FONT color=#000000>I've just begun checking into
Roberta's Rules of Order and would welcome those examples, as
well.<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><FONT color=#000000>Thanks in advance for any
examples.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I will compile the
results and feed them back.<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><FONT color=#000000>Warmly from cooling <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Phoenix</st1:place></st1:City>,<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><FONT
color=#000000>Christine<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><FONT color=#000000>Christine Whitney
Sanchez<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><FONT color=#000000>CWS - Collaborative Wisdom &
Strategy<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
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color=#000000><st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">2717 E. Mountain Sky
Avenue</SPAN></st1:address></st1:Street><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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color=#000000><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Phoenix</SPAN></st1:City><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">,
<st1:State w:st="on">AZ</st1:State><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN><st1:PostalCode
w:st="on">85048-8990</st1:PostalCode></SPAN></st1:place><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><FONT
color=#000000>480.759.0262<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><A
href="outbind://163/www.christinewhitneysanchez.com"><FONT
color=#0000ff>www.christinewhitneysanchez.com</FONT></A><FONT color=#000000>
<</FONT><A
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</SPAN><o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
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style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><FONT
color=#000000>FROM THE APPRECIATIVE INQUIRY
LISTSERVE<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></B></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><o:p><FONT
color=#000000> </FONT></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT
color=#000000><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You may know this
book, if you don't order Roberta's Rules of Order!<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><o:p><FONT
color=#000000> </FONT></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT
color=#000000>Billie T. Alban<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
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color=#000000><st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'">400 Seabury
Drive</SPAN></st1:address></st1:Street><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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color=#000000><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'">Bloomfield</SPAN></st1:City><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'">, <st1:State
w:st="on">CT</st1:State> <st1:PostalCode
w:st="on">06002</st1:PostalCode></SPAN></st1:place><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT
color=#000000>Phone: 860-242-9662<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT color=#000000>Fax:
860-243-0622<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
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color=#000000>Cell: 203-770-6911<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P><SPAN
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href="mailto:albanb@aol.com"><FONT color=#0000ff>albanb@aol.com</FONT></A><FONT
color=#000000> <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT
color=#000000>Christine,<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
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color=#000000><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Robert's Rules of
Order by my recollection, does seem to focus on order more than on decision
making.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is possible that some
alternative voting methods may be needed?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>What if you replaced the voting with a consensus tool.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Fist of Five comes to mind.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is a discription of the technique
from the web </FONT><A
href="http://www.freechild.org/Firestarter/Fist2Five.htm">http://www.freechild.org/Firestarter/Fist2Five.htm</A><FONT
color=#000000> .<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This allows you to
keep the assembly focused using Robert's Rules.<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><o:p><FONT
color=#000000> </FONT></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT
color=#000000>Nancy Heinsz<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><A
href="mailto:n.heinsz@sbcglobal.net"><FONT
color=#0000ff>n.heinsz@sbcglobal.net</FONT></A><FONT color=#000000>
<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><o:p><FONT
color=#000000> </FONT></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; mso-layout-grid-align: none"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT color=#000000>I
spent many years working organizationally with Will Schutz (FIRO
B).<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; mso-layout-grid-align: none"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT color=#000000>When
we wanted to ensure consensus in the group, we used the power of YES.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The process was elegantly simple:<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>If people agreed to support the decision
they would say 'yes' NOT okay or sure or yeah.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It had to be yes.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Any other word meant they were not
totally in agreement to support<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>the
decision. If they said NO or any of the other conflicted words, the group would
stop and listen to their concerns.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>By the end of the process, which sometimes would require checking
agreement a few times around the circle, all had been heard and were in
agreement.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I did not experience a
stalemate in all the times I used this process. It made decision execution very
smooth. Gail<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><A
href="mailto:gailkelley@cox.net"><FONT
color=#0000ff>gailkelley@cox.net</FONT></A><FONT color=#000000>
<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
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style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; mso-layout-grid-align: none"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><o:p><FONT
color=#000000> </FONT></o:p></SPAN></P>
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color=#000000>Sociocratic Decision Making can be a good alternative to Robert's
Rules. It bears some similarity to Roberta's Rules, but is more formalized and
also more consensus-based (yet very efficient). It was developed to be used
within a Sociocratic organizational structure, but I've found it can stand alone
as a decision-making process.<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; mso-layout-grid-align: none"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT
color=#000000>Alice Leibowitz<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><A
href="mailto:alice@insightunlimited.org"><FONT
color=#0000ff>alice@insightunlimited.org</FONT></A><FONT color=#000000>
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color=#000000>FROM THE OPEN SPACE LISTSERVE<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></B></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hi
Christine:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">It is my understanding
that Robert's Rules is for use to conduct a meeting, i.e., protocols of when to
vote, what kind of vote is required, etc. The application of the rule in
its true form or on occasion to varying degrees, is traditionally done at
Board of Education or Town council meeting. Absent following Roberts Rules, it
can lead to legal problems or the threat of litigation. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">In my experience in
education, I have always had a lawyer in attendance at our Broad of Education
meetings. Actually when I was in a large school district (4,000
kids) , we had two lawyers at our meeting as one was general council and the
other was a contract specialist. Between utilization of Robert's rules and the
lawyer(s) we still had people getting warned about "the law" or what they can
and can not say in public.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The utilization of
high engagement program to come to an agreement would, in my opinion, mitigate
problems at a BoE meeting as the processes you describe involves people. Having
folk involved in a process, come to consensus and then present it to a
Board Of Education is always effective. To pass a school budget, we involve
people in the process and it yields positive results.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Each serves a purpose,
in my opinion. After dealing with 1M law suits for not
following Robert's rules, I have quickly gained an appreciation of when it
should and could be used.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thanks<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Mario C.
Barbiere <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT color=#000000>Hi
Christine,<BR><BR>Many organizations are mandated through their constitution to
use Robert's Rules for their decision making. I have found that Robert's Rules
can be a lot more "pleasant" and workable when they are not being used too
strictly. For example, it is often a lot easier to discuss an issue, come to a
decision (by whatever means you choose), and then craft the resolution to be
voted on. If most people already agree on the resolution then there shouldn't
really be any more discussion and voting will just be a formality. This is
process that I see most of the time. Occasionally, I see some chair who wants to
do Robert's Rules "properly" (i.e. no discussion before the resolutions is been
tabled) making the meeting dreadful. In most membership organizations, very few
decisions will ever be legally tested but on certain times you need to be a 100%
sure that you are following whatever decision making rule you are supposed. An
example of this could be a budget. But again, you can have discussed the budget
before the formal resolution is made.<BR><BR>I once sat in on a church meeting
where the congregation had to make rather fundamental decision for the future. I
was shocked to see that the meeting chair started (after a prayer, of course)
with reading the resolution which ended up being the final decision. All that
people could do was to speak for or against the resolution. Did not seem very
Christian to me.<BR><BR>What I am very interested in hearing, is if someone has
managed to mix in some of the processes you mention into a Robert's Rules
meeting. I am not sure how to do this myself because they are so different. It
would feel more natural a more structure but collaborative process than the ones
you mentioned On option would be to divide the meeting in two and have the first
part a more open dialogue (using your process if choice) and follow that with a
more formal meeting. Or if it is a long meeting (1 day or more), you could have
a break in the middle for an open dialogue. It all depend on what they want with
the dialogue.<BR><BR>Hope this is some help.<BR><BR>Bui</FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I have never had any
problem with Robert’s Rules so long as it was understood what they were good
for. And that is not decision making. It is the formalization of decisions that
have already been made even if the votes have not been counted. Actually the
best and most actionable decisions are usually those that never come to a
vote. The issue is simply resolved in the course of community conversation.
Which brings me to Open Space. As we all know, OS is a wonderful way to hold a
community conversation which leads to resolution and action. If formalization is
required, so be it – and bring on the Robert’s Rules. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Harrison</SPAN></st1:place><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I guess my response was
kind of cryptic. What I meant to say was that on several occasions (precisely
when and where now clouded in the great cloud of unknowing) I worked with large
groups that had good luck with doing an Open Space on “their future” and when it
came to convergence/action, part of the assignment was to determine whether
there was any necessity for formal action. If so, the group had the
responsibility of formulating the appropriate motion which was presented to the
whole group in a separate (and very short) formal session at the end of the
affair. Discussion and argument was quite limited if only because there had been
a lot of that during the OS. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Harrison</SPAN></st1:place><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><B
style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><FONT
color=#000000>FROM THE WORLD CAFÉ LISTSERVE<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></B></P>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#000000>Hi all, </FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT color=#000000>You may want to
contact Chris Bui, who works with a very effective and simple "keypad"
technology to take people's ideas coming out of
participatory<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT color=#000000>engagement approaches
like World Cafe and helps the harvesting and "convergence" process happen in a
much more "open" and<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT color=#000000>lively way than
Robert's Rules of Order (and it's quick!) I've just experienced it in a
trans partisan dialogue across political divides and I think
it<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT color=#000000>has a lot to offer to
our own thinking, at least in the World Cafe community, about taking our normal
harvesting process to another level that<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT color=#000000>is both clear and
actionable and can easily be used to construct subsequent Open Space style
conversations (in a more organized way) as well<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT color=#000000>as other action
planning modalities.<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><o:p><FONT
color=#000000> </FONT></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT color=#000000>I've copied Chris on
this e-mail so you and he can be in touch.<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><o:p><FONT
color=#000000> </FONT></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT
color=#000000>Warmly,<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
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color=#000000>Juanita<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P></DIV>
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color=#000000> </FONT></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT color=#000000>Christine
-- <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><o:p><FONT
color=#000000> </FONT></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT color=#000000>This is an area I am
really interested in. A statewide group I worked with in <st1:State
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Texas</st1:place></st1:State> took a few steps
into an approach based on the "reality dialog" in future search as a way to "do
business" as an organization. <o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><o:p><FONT
color=#000000> </FONT></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT color=#000000>The shift here is
from focusing on what decisions need to be made and how to make those decision
to where the common ground is and how we want to act on that common ground.
In fact, taking up new ways of thinking about action, can call into
question all kinds of assumptions regarding what a decision is and why or if we
even need this concept. It is also related to how we define concepts like
"implementation," "sustainability" and "success" and how we evaluate outcomes.
These are issues deliberative bodies using ROR are generally helpless
around.<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><o:p><FONT
color=#000000> </FONT></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT color=#000000>We are so used to a
set of conventional assumptions in the arena of "decisionmaking." assumptions
which seldom get surfaced or questioned, that we typically fall into established
patterns in these areas.<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><o:p><FONT
color=#000000> </FONT></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT color=#000000>It often seems like
Roberts Rules of Order "works best." This is not surprising, since many of
our ideas about what decision making is were defined by Roberts Rules of Order
in the first place.<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><o:p><FONT
color=#000000> </FONT></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT color=#000000>If we can step back
and take a fresh look at what it means for a group of people to come together
and act effectively together, a much richer horizon makes itself visible.
This is pretty much new territory, though, in my experience, there is much
rich ground to till here and much wisdom already in existence which can be
harvested from the fruits of that labor. Among other things, I would trust
that there are new possibilities and see what you can discover along with your
clients.<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><o:p><FONT
color=#000000> </FONT></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT color=#000000>It may be" inquiry"
more than "decisions" that is needed.<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><o:p><FONT
color=#000000> </FONT></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT color=#000000>Ask questions
like:<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><o:p><FONT
color=#000000> </FONT></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT color=#000000>What are we trying to
do here (really!)?<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT color=#000000>What would feel
right?<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT color=#000000>How would the world
be different if we succeeded?<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT color=#000000>Anyone know how to
make that happen?<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT color=#000000>Who needs to be
involved in what we do and in figuring out what that
is?<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT color=#000000>How can we include
them in the conversation?<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT color=#000000>How can we act to
make our work and lives meaningful and achieve the goals we want to
achieve?<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT color=#000000>What are the elements
that support meaningful and effective action?<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT color=#000000>How have we achieved
those things in the past? (What do we already know)<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><o:p><FONT
color=#000000> </FONT></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT color=#000000>You know, just simple
things like that . . .<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><o:p><FONT
color=#000000> </FONT></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT
color=#000000>--Kenoli<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><o:p><FONT
color=#000000> </FONT></o:p></SPAN></P>
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determined to use Roberts Rules of Order, give them an experience first where
they work together as a group to generate a common vision they all feel
passionate about. They will then figure out themselves how to use Roberts
Rules of Order to accomplish that vision. There are a log of ways of doing
that, World Cafe, future search, dynamic facilitation and others. (They
may even come up with another way to make decisions
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