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color=#000000 size=2><FONT face="Times New Roman"><SPAN lang=EN-AU
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-AU">Dear
Brian and All<o:p></o:p></SPAN></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-AU
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-AU"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-AU
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-AU">This
is for those who are interested in matters of hierarchies and for you,
a dweller in one :-). My 'noticing' it is a nice example of
'whatever happens ...' in everyday life. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-AU
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-AU"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-AU
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-AU">When
'half' listening recently to an item broadcast on BBC World Service radio I
was taken with two elements; the great clarity with which the person spoke
and her accent. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-AU
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-AU"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-AU
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-AU">And
so I googled to discover that she:</SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-AU"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-AU
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-AU">.
is Lesley-Anne Knight, newly </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-AU
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-AU">appointed
<A
href="http://www.caritas.org/jumpNews.asp?idLang=ENG&idUser=0&idChannel=109&idNews=5123"><FONT
color=#810081>Secretary General of Caritas Internationalis</FONT></A> which
could be considered to be integral to a hierarchical system ...
</SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-AU"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-AU
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-AU">. was
born in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Zimbabwe</st1:place></st1:country-region>, the country that I come
from. </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-AU
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-AU"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-AU
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-AU"><SPAN
lang=EN-AU
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-AU">From this
search I found </SPAN>this lovely 'bonus': </SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-AU"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-AU
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-AU">Lesley-Anne </SPAN><SPAN
lang=EN-AU
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-AU">recognises
the wonder and beauty of being in Open Space. At least this is my interpretation
from seeing these comments in her <A
href="http://www.caritas.org/jumpNews.asp?idLang=ENG&idChannel=1444&idUser=0&idNews=5131"><FONT
color=#810081>inaugural speech</FONT></A>. </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-AU
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-AU"></SPAN><SPAN
lang=EN-AU
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-AU"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN
lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-font-family: Batang; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">"...
As this General Assembly draw to a close, I would like to reflect briefly on one
of the lasting impressions I shall take away with me – and that is how we have
shown so successfully this week the capacity for dialogue to create unity among
diversity. At coffee breaks, meal times, in the corridors, there has been a real
buzz of reaching out and engaging. Through conversation we build a world of
shared significance – through the process of listening to another, sharing
another perspective, we build trust and mutual respect. We don’t necessarily
have to agree, but when we are willing to listen to one another, when we listen
with the ear of our hearts,<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>we
often discover those universal values that unite us in our diversity. This
offers us a vision of hope for what might be achieved if we could only reproduce
this in the wider world. Through dialogue we recognise the love that makes us
one humanity; we become ‘witnesses of charity’. And that recognition is the
foundation upon which we can build peace ..."<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Batang; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN
lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-font-family: Batang; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">It
seems to me that this resonates with your yearning as expressed in your
posting? (below)</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN
lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-font-family: Batang; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN
lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-font-family: Batang; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT
size=3>For bringing OST to the attention * of people such as Lesley-Anne
Knight - and myriad others who have <BR>had similar experiencing - could help
them to do what they also yearn for: To reproduce such experiences in the
wider world. </FONT></SPAN></P>
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lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-font-family: Batang; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT
size=3></FONT></SPAN> </P><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-font-family: Batang; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"></SPAN><SPAN
lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-font-family: Batang; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT
size=3>I wonder how this sounds to you? </FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN
lang=EN-AU
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-AU"> </SPAN><SPAN
lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Batang; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN
lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-font-family: Batang; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Go
well</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Batang; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN
lang=EN-AU
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-AU"> </SPAN><SPAN
lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Batang; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN
lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-font-family: Batang; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">With
love</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Batang; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN
lang=EN-AU
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-AU"> </SPAN><SPAN
lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Batang; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><SPAN
lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-font-family: Batang; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Alan
</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Batang; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></FONT></FONT></o:p></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-font-family: Batang; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #1a1a1a; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'">* in the
spirit as expressed by a person whom I had the wonderful opportunity to
meet twice (the second was at his home on Rattlesnake Hill, <st1:place
w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Pescadero</st1:City>, <st1:State
w:st="on">California</st1:State></st1:place>, shortly before he died).
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><I><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #555555; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"></SPAN></I> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><I><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #555555; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'">Take it
or leave it.</SPAN></I><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #1a1a1a; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><I><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #555555; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'">I don't
want to sell anything to anyone.</SPAN></I><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #1a1a1a; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><I><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #555555; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'">I don't
want to persuade any human being.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></I></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><I><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #555555; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'">I only
want to draw attention.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></I></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><I><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #555555; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'">The only
thing I want is to draw attention.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></I></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><I><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: #555555; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>~ Heinz von Foerster<o:p></o:p></SPAN></I></P>
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face=Arial size=2></FONT></SPAN> </P></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=briansb@mira.net href="mailto:briansb@mira.net">Brian S
Bainbridge</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, July 15, 2007 8:49 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: hierarchy and things</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Responding to Chris
Corrigan’s insighting.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Dear
Chris<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">As a person who –
perhaps as much as any other Open Space character – lives within a dominantly
hierarchic system, I have very little personal interest in the matter of
hierarchies, except to note that they “are there” in some
fashion.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">What I am excited
about in your letter is the last paragraph – talking about seeing “the larger
implications for organizing human endeavours” , the “incredibly inspired
thinking”, the “broad implications for the way things are organized”, and the
“crux of the next level of investigations into what all these methodologies
mean”.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">For me personally,
this is why I have kept going to the OSonOS gatherings, hoping that – as I
said recently to Michael Pannwitz Jnr, - there might be the emergence of some
impacting and effective discussion and prospective exploration relating to
these very aspects of our work.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">For more years than I
can remember, these are the real goals and dreams of why I open space, every
time. And, with so many other wonderful people in this network, I know an
immense amount of change and growth and development and success has been
achieved.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To share the
insighting, to help it happen more widely yet, to encourage “newbies” to start
to think in these terms, to work up themes which stimulate such results, and
to learn from so many other more experienced people than I how to help these
things happen better – that, for me, is what an OSonOS is primarily about.
That this goal is perhaps seldom achieved (IMHO at least) only means it is
more important yet to continue trying to help it happen, whatever of the
immense personal expense and inconvenience and long- distance travel and so
on.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">All praise to you –
again – Chris, for getting this very aspect into words – for me at least. The
<st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Camden</st1:place></st1:City>
gathering could be very special, perhaps. That’s my
prayer.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Ta!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Cheers and
blessings, BRIAN<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Fr Brian S.
Bainbridge<BR>0412 111 525</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=navy><SPAN
style="COLOR: navy"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Skype:
briansbain</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On
Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Chris Corrigan<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Sunday, 15 July 2007 9:30
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: hierarchy...was report from
the field</SPAN></FONT><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Within the Art of Hosting community of
practice, we have been looking at a fifth organizational paradigm, which is
something like a combination of hierarchy, circle, network and
bureaucracy. Some of us have been looking at what these four paradigms
have to offer, for examples, hierarchy offers order and clarity, circle offers
an equal reflective space, network offers an immediate ability to connect with
whatever is needed, and bureaucracy helps channel resources where they are
needed, "irrigating" initiatives or parts of an organization.
<BR><BR>Certainly, each of these has a dark side, but if the benefits are
illuminated and then transcended, you get a fifth organizational paradigm in
which all four can be somehow present and somehow something new is born.
I think we are increasingly seeing Open Space meetings as the embodiments of
this fifth form, which has gone by many other names among those of us here on
the list: InterActive Organization, Conscious Open Space Organization,
Inviting Organization, Radiant Networking and so on. There is something
in the pattern of Open Space that, if it has not yet achieved transcendence of
these four forms, at least leads the eye to what might emerge.
Self-organization is clearly the key, or at least the gas in the engine.
<BR><BR>I find it interesting that many of us who are devoted to these models
of dialogic practice can. <BR><BR>Great
thread.<BR><BR>Chris<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=gmailquote><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">On 7/15/07, <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Harrison Owen</SPAN></B> <<A
href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net">hhowen@verizon.net</A>>
wrote:</SPAN></FONT></SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Raffi -- You will notice that I very carefully did not
use the word<BR>"hierarchy," but a quite different word -- "elitism." I am not
sure that is<BR>the right word either, but that is the problem with words.
Indeed, hierarchy <BR>itself (as you point out) is not a bad thing. Quite
natural in fact and very<BR>useful. Heirarchy is a problem, however, when it
is frozen and stuck. At<BR>that point it becomes an "old" hierarchy reflective
of a different time <BR>and/or situation, holding power and authority very
much in the fashion of<BR>the Divine Right of Kings. That is what I would call
elitism. The real<BR>problem is that it is non-functional because it limits
the capacity of a <BR>system to adapt to a changing environment. This of
course can go on for a<BR>long time, and indeed some environments stick around
for a bit. But at the<BR>moment a stable environment seems to be more the
exception than the rule. So <BR>Heirarchy, Yes. Elitism, No.<BR><BR>In terms
of our community of folks -- to be sure there is hierarchy, in fact<BR>there
are multiple hierarchies constantly changing with time and tide, and<BR>many
existing simultaneously in a wonderful dance of conflict and
<BR>collaboration. I think that is fantastic, useful, and something to
be<BR>honored. However, if we ever got to the point where there was
one,<BR>unchanging hierarchy that would be the last moment you would be seeing
me<BR>anywhere on the premises -- even if, and most especially if, I was the
King<BR>of the heap!<BR><BR>I think Kaliya is absolutely correct in pointing
out the utility of a<BR>"repetitional meritocratic hierarchy" (WOW! -- the
words sort of roll off <BR>the tongue!!). And if I understand the words at
all, I think that is pretty<BR>much what "we" are. I would also agree that
experience, training, maturity<BR>are critical -- in Open Space, as everywhere
else. But I would take some <BR>issue with the notion that, "Open Space
Technology is fundamentally<BR>different then these two community practices --
OST is not trying to build<BR>an operating system or have 100,000 all
collaborate on the same thing - it <BR>doesn't 'need' the kind of hierarchy
that technical communities do."<BR><BR>From where I sit, the adventure we have
embarked on is actually larger and<BR>more complex than the "simple business"
of creating an operating system. Our <BR>task (or at least the one I choose
for myself) is not so much about<BR>designing a system but rather the
appreciation of the infinite complexity<BR>and elegance of the self-organizing
Human System. And this is not just <BR>"music appreciation," performance is
the name of the game. How do we<BR>effectively live in this system, and maybe
even more importantly, what can<BR>we do to enable the system to
live?<BR><BR>I think of Open Space as a wonderful natural experiment in which
thousands <BR>of people are participating. The power of the experiment emerges
when we<BR>freely and openly share our experiences and understandings. And
everybody<BR>has a vital part to play. Those of us who have been around for a
bit may <BR>have a broader and possibly deeper view, but there is an almost
inevitable<BR>tendency to take some things for granted and get stuck in our
ways. The<BR>antidote for all of that is the arrival of fresh eyes with
apparently "dumb <BR>questions." There are no dumb questions that are also
real questions. Real<BR>questions have no answers, they only open more space
and take you deeper.<BR>And when you have lots of space (up, down, sideways,
wherever)-- then the <BR>fun begins.<BR><BR><st1:place
w:st="on">Harrison</st1:place><BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From:
OSLIST [mailto:<A
href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</A>]
On Behalf Of Raffi<BR>Aftandelian<BR>Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 2:08 PM
<BR>To: <A
href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</A><BR>Subject:
hierarchy...was report from the field<BR><BR>Greetings friends and
colleagues--<BR><BR><st1:place w:st="on">Harrison</st1:place> you
wrote:<BR><BR>"The other day I got a note which said in part, "I was surprised
to <BR>find out that there was a hierarchy in the OST community and everyone
having<BR>a specific place to hold, voices are not equal and politics prevails
in<BR>certain circuits Just the same old same old... I'm not sure
this is what <BR>you envisioned with OST." I have no idea what the specific
circumstances<BR>were, and less interest in finding out. But presuming that we
have the<BR>creeping tentacles of elitism sneaking in - a good dose of the Law
of Two <BR>Feet and a clear recognition of the Universal License of Open
Space<BR>(everybody has one by birth) should do the trick. Or
something."<BR><BR>I would love to hear more from the person who wrote about
hierarchy in the <BR>OST community. What is meant by "hierarchy"
here?<BR><BR>Isn't there hierarchy everywhere? Is it a bad thing? The question
is what<BR>kind of hierarchy do we have in the OST community? Is it a
hierarchy that <BR>feeds us, strengthens us? And how do we choose to engage
with it as a<BR>community? Do we create the spaces to talk about the power
differentials<BR>within our practitioner community in a way that, well, builds
more capacity <BR>within us?<BR><BR>Quakers, for example, acknowledge that
voices are not equal within the life<BR>of a Monthly Meeting. They have the
concept of "weightiness" or a "weighty<BR>Friend." In other words,
these are the elders within the Quaker world. <BR><BR>And doesn't the OST
world have its elders and sages?<BR><BR>I, too, have heard (and thought) that
the OST community is the "same<BR>old...," - heck, some of that "same oldness"
shows up on the list from time <BR>to time- *and* I do not know of a more
generous, welcoming, inspiring<BR>facilitation community. We either choose to
engage with the OST community as<BR>it is, or...well exercise the law of two
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=briansb@mira.net href="mailto:briansb@mira.net">Brian S
Bainbridge</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, July 15, 2007 8:49 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: hierarchy and things</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=Section1>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Responding to Chris
Corrigan’s insighting.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Dear
Chris<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">As a person who –
perhaps as much as any other Open Space character – lives within a dominantly
hierarchic system, I have very little personal interest in the matter of
hierarchies, except to note that they “are there” in some
fashion.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">What I am excited
about in your letter is the last paragraph – talking about seeing “the larger
implications for organizing human endeavours” , the “incredibly inspired
thinking”, the “broad implications for the way things are organized”, and the
“crux of the next level of investigations into what all these methodologies
mean”.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">For me personally,
this is why I have kept going to the OSonOS gatherings, hoping that – as I
said recently to Michael Pannwitz Jnr, - there might be the emergence of some
impacting and effective discussion and prospective exploration relating to
these very aspects of our work.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">For more years than I
can remember, these are the real goals and dreams of why I open space, every
time. And, with so many other wonderful people in this network, I know an
immense amount of change and growth and development and success has been
achieved.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To share the
insighting, to help it happen more widely yet, to encourage “newbies” to start
to think in these terms, to work up themes which stimulate such results, and
to learn from so many other more experienced people than I how to help these
things happen better – that, for me, is what an OSonOS is primarily about.
That this goal is perhaps seldom achieved (IMHO at least) only means it is
more important yet to continue trying to help it happen, whatever of the
immense personal expense and inconvenience and long- distance travel and so
on.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">All praise to you –
again – Chris, for getting this very aspect into words – for me at least. The
<st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Camden</st1:place></st1:City>
gathering could be very special, perhaps. That’s my
prayer.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Ta!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Cheers and
blessings, BRIAN<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Fr Brian S.
Bainbridge<BR>0412 111 525</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=navy><SPAN
style="COLOR: navy"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Skype:
briansbain</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On
Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Chris Corrigan<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Sunday, 15 July 2007 9:30
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: hierarchy...was report from
the field</SPAN></FONT><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Within the Art of Hosting community of
practice, we have been looking at a fifth organizational paradigm, which is
something like a combination of hierarchy, circle, network and
bureaucracy. Some of us have been looking at what these four paradigms
have to offer, for examples, hierarchy offers order and clarity, circle offers
an equal reflective space, network offers an immediate ability to connect with
whatever is needed, and bureaucracy helps channel resources where they are
needed, "irrigating" initiatives or parts of an organization.
<BR><BR>Certainly, each of these has a dark side, but if the benefits are
illuminated and then transcended, you get a fifth organizational paradigm in
which all four can be somehow present and somehow something new is born.
I think we are increasingly seeing Open Space meetings as the embodiments of
this fifth form, which has gone by many other names among those of us here on
the list: InterActive Organization, Conscious Open Space Organization,
Inviting Organization, Radiant Networking and so on. There is something
in the pattern of Open Space that, if it has not yet achieved transcendence of
these four forms, at least leads the eye to what might emerge.
Self-organization is clearly the key, or at least the gas in the engine.
<BR><BR>I find it interesting that many of us who are devoted to these models
of dialogic practice can. <BR><BR>Great
thread.<BR><BR>Chris<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=gmailquote><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">On 7/15/07, <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Harrison Owen</SPAN></B> <<A
href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net">hhowen@verizon.net</A>>
wrote:</SPAN></FONT></SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Raffi -- You will notice that I very carefully did not
use the word<BR>"hierarchy," but a quite different word -- "elitism." I am not
sure that is<BR>the right word either, but that is the problem with words.
Indeed, hierarchy <BR>itself (as you point out) is not a bad thing. Quite
natural in fact and very<BR>useful. Heirarchy is a problem, however, when it
is frozen and stuck. At<BR>that point it becomes an "old" hierarchy reflective
of a different time <BR>and/or situation, holding power and authority very
much in the fashion of<BR>the Divine Right of Kings. That is what I would call
elitism. The real<BR>problem is that it is non-functional because it limits
the capacity of a <BR>system to adapt to a changing environment. This of
course can go on for a<BR>long time, and indeed some environments stick around
for a bit. But at the<BR>moment a stable environment seems to be more the
exception than the rule. So <BR>Heirarchy, Yes. Elitism, No.<BR><BR>In terms
of our community of folks -- to be sure there is hierarchy, in fact<BR>there
are multiple hierarchies constantly changing with time and tide, and<BR>many
existing simultaneously in a wonderful dance of conflict and
<BR>collaboration. I think that is fantastic, useful, and something to
be<BR>honored. However, if we ever got to the point where there was
one,<BR>unchanging hierarchy that would be the last moment you would be seeing
me<BR>anywhere on the premises -- even if, and most especially if, I was the
King<BR>of the heap!<BR><BR>I think Kaliya is absolutely correct in pointing
out the utility of a<BR>"repetitional meritocratic hierarchy" (WOW! -- the
words sort of roll off <BR>the tongue!!). And if I understand the words at
all, I think that is pretty<BR>much what "we" are. I would also agree that
experience, training, maturity<BR>are critical -- in Open Space, as everywhere
else. But I would take some <BR>issue with the notion that, "Open Space
Technology is fundamentally<BR>different then these two community practices --
OST is not trying to build<BR>an operating system or have 100,000 all
collaborate on the same thing - it <BR>doesn't 'need' the kind of hierarchy
that technical communities do."<BR><BR>From where I sit, the adventure we have
embarked on is actually larger and<BR>more complex than the "simple business"
of creating an operating system. Our <BR>task (or at least the one I choose
for myself) is not so much about<BR>designing a system but rather the
appreciation of the infinite complexity<BR>and elegance of the self-organizing
Human System. And this is not just <BR>"music appreciation," performance is
the name of the game. How do we<BR>effectively live in this system, and maybe
even more importantly, what can<BR>we do to enable the system to
live?<BR><BR>I think of Open Space as a wonderful natural experiment in which
thousands <BR>of people are participating. The power of the experiment emerges
when we<BR>freely and openly share our experiences and understandings. And
everybody<BR>has a vital part to play. Those of us who have been around for a
bit may <BR>have a broader and possibly deeper view, but there is an almost
inevitable<BR>tendency to take some things for granted and get stuck in our
ways. The<BR>antidote for all of that is the arrival of fresh eyes with
apparently "dumb <BR>questions." There are no dumb questions that are also
real questions. Real<BR>questions have no answers, they only open more space
and take you deeper.<BR>And when you have lots of space (up, down, sideways,
wherever)-- then the <BR>fun begins.<BR><BR><st1:place
w:st="on">Harrison</st1:place><BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From:
OSLIST [mailto:<A
href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</A>]
On Behalf Of Raffi<BR>Aftandelian<BR>Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 2:08 PM
<BR>To: <A
href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</A><BR>Subject:
hierarchy...was report from the field<BR><BR>Greetings friends and
colleagues--<BR><BR><st1:place w:st="on">Harrison</st1:place> you
wrote:<BR><BR>"The other day I got a note which said in part, "I was surprised
to <BR>find out that there was a hierarchy in the OST community and everyone
having<BR>a specific place to hold, voices are not equal and politics prevails
in<BR>certain circuits Just the same old same old... I'm not sure
this is what <BR>you envisioned with OST." I have no idea what the specific
circumstances<BR>were, and less interest in finding out. But presuming that we
have the<BR>creeping tentacles of elitism sneaking in - a good dose of the Law
of Two <BR>Feet and a clear recognition of the Universal License of Open
Space<BR>(everybody has one by birth) should do the trick. Or
something."<BR><BR>I would love to hear more from the person who wrote about
hierarchy in the <BR>OST community. What is meant by "hierarchy"
here?<BR><BR>Isn't there hierarchy everywhere? Is it a bad thing? The question
is what<BR>kind of hierarchy do we have in the OST community? Is it a
hierarchy that <BR>feeds us, strengthens us? And how do we choose to engage
with it as a<BR>community? Do we create the spaces to talk about the power
differentials<BR>within our practitioner community in a way that, well, builds
more capacity <BR>within us?<BR><BR>Quakers, for example, acknowledge that
voices are not equal within the life<BR>of a Monthly Meeting. They have the
concept of "weightiness" or a "weighty<BR>Friend." In other words,
these are the elders within the Quaker world. <BR><BR>And doesn't the OST
world have its elders and sages?<BR><BR>I, too, have heard (and thought) that
the OST community is the "same<BR>old...," - heck, some of that "same oldness"
shows up on the list from time <BR>to time- *and* I do not know of a more
generous, welcoming, inspiring<BR>facilitation community. We either choose to
engage with the OST community as<BR>it is, or...well exercise the law of two
feet.<BR><BR><BR>Raffi<BR><BR>*<BR>*<BR>==========================================================<BR><A
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CORRIGAN<BR>Facilitation - Training<BR>Open Space Technology<BR><BR>Weblog: <A
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