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12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>Hardly a “novice” -- Sounds to
me like you went right to the core! The stories you tell are touching, very
touching. And they touch on a point that has fascinated me for years –
the apparent cultural neutrality of Open Space. As near as I can determine, OS “works”
anywhere. I have looked long and hard for some indication that this apparent universality
is only apparent, feeling that if we could find some genuine exception we might
learn a great deal about Open Space and possibly also the cultural environment
in which it failed to function. But every time I thought I had a real live one –
a total flop – it turned out on closer questioning that the difficulty
had nothing to do with Open Space. Sometimes folks were trying what they
called, “a little bit of Open Space,” or same thing with different
words, “modified Open Space.” Normal translation was that it really
wasn’t open. In other situations it turned out that Open Space worked
just as advertised – but some folks didn’t like the results. </span></font></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>NigelSeys-Phillips<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, June 01, 2007 9:39
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: "rules" and
self-organization</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Dear Helen,</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I am a total novice at
this but a brief comment …..</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Among my first few Open
Space events were:</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in'><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>1)<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>    
</span></font></span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>An NGO in Cambodia where
children previously working on the city trash dump are being lovingly cared for
and educated – children from 12-18yrs old</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in'><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>2)<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>    
</span></font></span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>A group of 200 street
children in Mongolia whose most important issue (at the end of a two day OS
event) was being allowed to have ID cards – and which event has I believe
made a huge difference to their lives as the findings have been adopted by the
Government and has resulted in much closer communication between the wonderful
people who work with the children – children from 8-20yrs old</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in'><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>3)<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>    
</span></font></span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>A group of young people
in Singapore – from 18-35yrs old </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>These three events were
part of a wider series working to identify “How we create a better
future”</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in'><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>4)<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>    
</span></font></span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>An international
organization working on how best to communicate across geographical boundaries
– senior experienced executives</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in'><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>5)<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>    
</span></font></span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>A leading hi-tech
equipment manufacturer bringing their people together for a common goal –
managers and team leaders from across the business</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>We had no chairs for the
first three…but we had a circle…and nobody could have had the
slightest clue about what would happen</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>We had a room with chairs
and a circle for the others…and they had received a reasonably well-written
invitation </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>My conclusion (possibly
naïve) – <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>it just flat out works! </span></b>-
despite these totally disparate levels of experience. That’s the link!</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>And it works even if
there is a lunatic foreign person walking round in circles speaking a language
they have no idea about (translated ably I must say by my supporters for the
events) in an environment they have absolutely no experience of at all…I
can only imagine what the street children were thinking!!</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>May not help – but
I remain totally in awe of the power of OS to deliver results and just wish I
had understood this years, and years, ago.</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>All the best – and
yes, it’s hot here!!</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Nigel</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
 style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Nigel Seys-Phillips</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Fulcrum Business
Management Solutions</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>30 Mount </span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
  color:navy'>Elizabeth</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>#04-34 Highpoint</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Singapore 228519</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Tel: +65 9639 2510</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>E-mail: <a
href="mailto:nigel@fulcrum.com.sg">nigel@fulcrum.com.sg</a></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>www.fulcrum.com.sg</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Helen Bishop<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, 30 May 2007 10:15
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: "rules" and
self-organization</span></font></p>

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face=Geneva><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Geneva;color:black'>I
think it would be interesting to find out if there's a link between age and
range of experiences, and the way people would react to the room with chairs in
a circle and a theme on the wall.  I'm guessing that young adults would
react differently from people in their middle years, and from people nearing
the end of a career.  Part of the story, I think, links to the experiences
of people in the room, and how they acquired those experiences.  Facilitator/storytellers
also embody things in terms of gender, race/ethnicity, language(s) used, age,
abilities, class, all those interesting things that relate to the worldview of
the people who respond to an invitation.  Previous experiences with
processes like Open Space would matter, too.<br>
<br>
Helen Bishop<br>
Etowah, NC USA</span></font><font face=Arial FAMILY=SANSSERIF><span
style='font-family:Arial'><br>
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