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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=red face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>Kaliya wrote: “At this time on our
planet we need to be as intentional and catalytic as possible in creating space
for new possibilities of our civilization to emerge....being passive and hoping
that people conditioned the way they are in our current culture will some how
'magically' 'awake' and 'self-organize' is to
me hopelessly naive.”</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=red face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>Kaliya, I could not agree more that
“intentional and catalytic” activity on our part is very useful,
and at the present moment, essential. It is also possible to adopt a fatalistic
response to the fundamental self-organizing nature of our world – “newagers”
may believe that we will somehow “magically awake,” and those on
the other end of the spectrum may believe that we are all, inevitably, going to
hell in a wheel barrow. I would agree that both responses are possible,
but by no means foreordained. I certainly would not see them (the responses) as
the inevitable consequence of a self-organizing world.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=red face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>My own thought and experience has taken me
to a place where I see self-organization as a fundamental mechanism in our
world (cosmos) – very much in the way that gravity comes with the
territory. In short, it is not a matter of choice – it is just the way
things are. Nor does self-organization inevitably lead to the appearance of “love
and light,” although I think there may be a tendency in that direction –
which we might explore. But at the end of the day, at least my day –
all systems are self-organizing including a number of systems we might rather
not confront, such as Terrorist Cells and the HIV virus, to mention a few.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=red face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>I see self-organization as the context or
environment in which we move. Thus, even when we make careful and detailed
plans and designs – once they hit the real world they inevitably become
part of the self-organizing stew. Being fully aware of this fact is critical, I
think, in terms of raising the level of probability that we may experience “successful”
outcomes. When we ignore or disregard the self-organizing environment, or worse
yet, think we can override it – we get into serious trouble. Thus when
plans and designs go astray, a typical response has been to re-organize and
re-organize coupled with redoubled efforts at control (our control). While we
may experience limited short term gains, the final result of our effort is
often no change (it doesn’t do any good) – or we actually make the
situation worse.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=red face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>A good example is the whole business of
what we call Flood Control as practiced in the </span></font><font color=red
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;color:red'>United States</span></font><font
color=red face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;color:red'> by the Army
Corps of Engineers. It is a fact that rivers flood. It is also a fact that
floods tend to be deleterious to the function of human systems located near by.
The obvious response, so we thought, is to control the river with a mixture of
dams and levees. The short term result seems positive – our feet are dry.
But longer term, things turn out a little differently. It seems that the
naturally occurring self-organizing system called the </span></font><font
color=red face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;color:red'>Mississippi</span></font><font
color=red face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;color:red'>, </span></font><font
color=red face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;color:red'>Danube</span></font><font
color=red face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;color:red'>, or whatever,
had evolved system wisdom with some structural elements we simply didn’t
understand. Case in point is a Flood Plain. Flood plains seemed to be a marvelous
place to grow crops and build cities. True! And they also have an essential function
in the life of the ecosystem of that river, which is not to be tampered with.
When floods come, as they will, the Flood Plain provides an escape valve in
which the additional waters can spread out with minimal turbulence. When the
waters go, they will go peacefully, leaving a fresh deposit of soil and seeds.
A more intelligent response on our part would be, I think, to cooperate with
the river, and align our self-organizing systems (villages and cities) with
that fundamental system. If we choose to build near by, find the high ground.
And in the absence of high ground try some stilts. But no matter what –
don’t mess with Mother Nature, because the day will surely come when
Mother Nature and Old Man River conspire to put us in our place. </span></font></p>
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12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red'>So what does all this have to do with OST?
I think what we have been learning every time we Open Space is how to optimize
system function, honor the natural self-organizing rhythm and flow, and thereby
achieve what sometimes appear to be “magical” results. This is a
conscious act, a catalytic act and, it should be noted, the net result has a
lot to do with our intentions. Given different intentions the result could be
quite different. To make the point, and only to make the point, I would say
that were it my intention to create a Terrorist Network, I can’t think of
a better possible approach than to begin with an Open Space. Indeed it might be
argued that this is precisely what Osama and friends have done. I doubt they
have read “The User’s Guide,” but as I think we are all aware,
Open Space (by whatever name) has been around long before I wrote that guide. </span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Kaliya Hamlin<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, </span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>May 30, 2007</span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> </span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>8:58 PM</span></font><font
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: "rules" and
self-organization</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>It is nice you all want to be so 'free form' about
things and 'believe' that humans just 'self-organize'.</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>My experience has taught me that leaning to far in
this direction actually creates a lot of dissonance for people and leads
to spaces with negative energy.</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>Having a person or better a group of people taking
responsiblity for holding the space creating a nest if you will... within which
people feel safe to 'open up' and explore with each other possibilities.... out
of this space this nest is born new action and activity.</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>At this time on our planet we need to be as
intentional and catalytic as possible in creating space for new possibilities
of our civilization to emerge....being passive and hoping that people
conditioned the way they are in our current culture will some how 'magically'
'awake' and 'self-organize' is to me hopelessly naive. </span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>Diffusing the simple tools and 'rules' or
principles and practices is one of the things that could make the most
difference at this time on our planet. </span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>My experience is that professional communities
(that is people coming together to use this methodology in peer-to-peer
professional network (outside 'AN' organization) settings) seeking to take
action together learn the way OST works and take to it....it becomes the new
norm -the shared way of doing things together that they work on. It lets
all the passion talent and energy come forward and the people who are
interested find each other because there is enough structure ... just enough
that it is functional and effective for them to spend their time in the space
together. THIS IS important. I somethings think people undervalue
peoples time and energy by all this 'it just happens' talk....well if you help
it happen and you follow some simple steps it is like 10x better. THAT
MATTERS for the state of the world and to respect peoples time and energy for
showing up.</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Gulim;color:blue'>great! i agree with your
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Gulim;color:blue'>thank u...</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Gulim;color:blue'>Love and Peace,</span></font></p>
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.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> OSLIST [<a
href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a>]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Ralph Copleman<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, </span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>May 30, 2007</span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> </span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>10:12 PM</span></font><font
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <a
href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> "rules" and
self-organization</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:Times'>One way to test what is essential
(what Artur termed "micro") and what is not would be to open some
space without mentioning either the four principles or the law of two feet.
Or anything else.<br>
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If self-organization occurs in os, would not the "space" still
"open" without things we have come to believe are essential?
I'm betting it would, or at least could. Perhaps all we need is a room
and a theme and a wall. Maybe some tea and coffee. How free are we?
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Picture it. You're invited, so you show up because the theme interests
you or you know the inviter. You get there, see the theme statement on
the wall, and nothing but a circle of chairs. Nothing. Not even a
facilitator. Others arrive. The only things you share at this point
are your presence and your presumed interest in the theme.<br>
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If self-organization is real, is not the space already open? It may take
longer, but might relevant, useful conversations begin?<br>
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I think the facilitator meets our need for an authority figure (a perfectly
natural, good thing, most of the time), and the ideas about feet, insects, etc.
a minimal unifying structure (think of it perhaps as curbs to a boulevard?)
that steer us into an opening, a place we have agreed, by showing up, we want
to be. OS in action <i><span style='font-style:italic'>resembles</span></i>
self-organization, but it isn't the pure thing. (Not that it really
matters. I love it simply because it’s the best way I know to show
people what evolution on Earth is really like. And it produces great
results for my clients.)<br>
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One more rumpled notion occurs this morning... What about the
storytelling role, the thing we do as facilitators to connect people entering
an open space to a greater whole? I know this is important, but is not
the facilitator simply reminding people of a story they already know, deep
down? If self-organization/evolution is real, it’s been working far
longer than humans have even been around. Might we not trust this
process? How far can we go?<br>
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Ralph Copleman<br>
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