Not much to add to this font of wisdom except perhaps to say that this principle is also the one I struggle most with. In that sense it is the basis of my practice. I present it as an invitation to follow threads. If we feel as if the conversation should be going in one direction and the passion of the moment takes it in another direction, I invite people to follow that. It is in that rich ground of friendship and engagement that innovation is born. It is there we truly experience emergence. And emergence is, after all, why we choose to engage in conversation in the first place.
<br><br>Because we can never know what will emerge, trusting in one another will take us to a place that none of us could have guessed at prior to meeting. And thus, whatever happens is the only thing that could have.<br>
<br>Chris<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 4/23/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Peggy Holman</b> <<a href="mailto:peggy@opencirclecompany.com">peggy@opencirclecompany.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<div><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="2">I did a search of my OSlist
archive. The last time this subject came up in depth was in 2001!
I've copied some excerpts below.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="2">A new insight for me on whatever happens
is that it helps reframe disonnance, disturbance. I know now that
perturbations in a system are a sign that something new is wanting to
emerge. When conflict, anger, frustration or even excitement, hope,
aspirations show up in Open Space, they are a reminder to be curious; to
"welcome disturbance", knowing that it could well reveal something
pivotal. So rather than resisting or in other ways block unexpected
energies, whatever happens is a great reminder to be present to what is showing
up.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="2">open-heartedly,</font></div>
<div><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="2">Peggy</font></div>
<div><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="2"></font> </div>
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<div><span class="q"><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="2">----- Original Message -----
</font><div><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="2">From: "Larry Peterson" <<a href="mailto:lpasoc@INFORAMP.NET" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">lpasoc@INFORAMP.NET</a>>
</font></div>
<div><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="2">To: <<a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a>></font></div></span>
<div><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="2">Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 8:06 AM</font></div>
<div><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="2">Subject: Re: Whatever happens... (was: Dear OSLIST)</font></div></div>
<div><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="2"><br></font></div><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="2">>I agree with Michael and Joelle. "Whatever happens" is
a key principle to<br>> inform how we operate in Open Space. At first I
struggled a bit with that<br>> one. I later recognized that it was my
desire to shape or control the<br>> outcomes that was driving that struggle
for me. As a social justice<br>> activist, I was convinced that I had
to control and that certainly something<br>> else "could have" happened if
"right people" had been there, or if people<br>> only had a better
consciousness of the real situation. I came to realize<br>> that once
the space was opened, it was best for me and the participants to<br>> assume
that whatever happened was the only thing that could have and then<br>> learn
from that. The principle opens the group up to tremendous
learning<br>> about where the group is at now -- not some ideal sense of
where you think<br>> it ought to or should be. In my work with
corporations or with activist<br>> organizations, if there is a need to
provide perspectives or information to<br>> the whole group that will affect
how people see what is possible, then that<br>> is done before opening
space. However, accepting what manifests in Open<br>> Space as a
reflection of the situation now is critical learning for deciding<br>> what
to do next. We cannot change history only our perceptions of it.<br>>
"Could" it have been different -- we like to think so. However, it
wasn't<br>> and the complex of variables that led to what it was were the
reality at the<br>> time, including our own behaviour.<br>> <br>>
Larry<br></font></div>
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<div><span class="q">----- Original Message -----
<div>From: "Michael Herman" <<a href="mailto:mherman@GLOBALCHICAGO.NET" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">mherman@GLOBALCHICAGO.NET</a>></div>
<div>To: <<a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a>></div></span>
<div>Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 6:08 PM</div>
<div>Subject: Re: Whatever happens... (was: Dear OSLIST)</div></div>
<div><br></div>> artur,<br>> <br>> i think that 'whatever happens is
the only thing that could have' is<br>> necessarily absolutely true. if
there was anything else more likely,<br>> more possible, it would have
happened. this does not mean that it is<br>> most
desirable. does not mean that it should be repeated.
and,<br>> especially does not mean that we understand all of the conditions
that<br>> made it the most likely outcome (most likely in that it did in fact
beat<br>> out all other happenings that might otherwise have happened in
that<br>> moment). that we don't understand all of those conditions is,
i think,<br>> the little bit of mystery that this particular principle points
to.<br>> indeed, i thnk that's what the principles are for... pointing to
the<br>> mystery, the surprise, the unknown.</div>
<div> </div>
<div><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="2">********************</font></div>
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<div> </div>
<div><span class="q">----- Original Message -----
<div>From: "Joelle Lyons Everett" <<a href="mailto:JLEShelton@aol.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">JLEShelton@aol.com</a>></div>
<div>To: <<a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a>></div></span>
<div>Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 11:52 PM</div>
<div>Subject: Re: Whatever happens... (was: Dear OSLIST)</div></div>
<div><br>> <br>> I don't take "Whatever happens is the only thing that
could have" as an<br>> expression of fatalism, but as an acknowledgment that
in the course of the<br>> meeting we will do what we can, given the time,
resources, and our capability<br>> to take action, maybe in a new
direction. It reminds me of a statement I<br>> heard early in my
training for working with organizations: "Begin where the<br>> client
is. Not only is this philosophically the 'correct' position, but
it<br>> is the only place you can begin."<br>> <br>> The most
interesting comment I've seen about the 4 principles came from<br>> Angeles
Arrien, who states that they are statements about spiritual<br>>
detachment--the ability to work hard on something without being attached to
a<br>> particular outcome. This rang true for me; I find that
facilitating Open<br>> Space is very closely related to my inner struggle to
stop trying to control<br>> everything in the world. Spiritual work,
and it doesn't come easy to me.<br>> <br>> <br>> Joelle</div>
<div> </div>
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<div><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="2">^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^</font></div>
<div><br></div>
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<div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;">----- Original Message ----- </div>
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<b>From:</b>
<a title="john@johnengle.net" href="mailto:john@johnengle.net" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">John Engle</a>
</div>
<div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>To:</b> <a title="OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a>
</div></span><div><span class="e" id="q_11221dd39cde659c_8">
<div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 23, 2007 7:06
PM</div>
<div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSLIST] whatever
happens...</div>
<div><br></div>these are great! thanks for your affirmations, lisa, and for
your reflections alan and doug.<br><br>no one will ever be able to argue or
dispute, "whatever happens is the only thing that did"<br><br>i can't even say
it without a grin and chuckle. that's a good sign.<br><br>i look forward to
learning what others think.<br><br>thanks
again!<br><br>john<br><br><b><i>douglas germann <<a href="mailto:76066.515@compuserve.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">76066.515@compuserve.com</a>></i></b>
wrote:
<blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px;">John--<br><br>How
about "Whatever happens is the only thing that did"?<br><br>:-
Doug.<br><br>On Mon, 2007-04-23 at 18:22 -0700, John Engle wrote:<br>> Hi
fellow listers.<br>> <br>> I know that some have been through this
hundreds of times but I'm<br>> wanting to get the most recent reflections
on the principle:<br>> <br>> Whatever happens is the only thing that
could've.<br>> <br>> My colleagues in Haiti and I continue to have
smart people from a<br>> variety of cultures let us know that this
principle doesn't sit well<br>> with them. <br>> <br>> It
communicates fatalism to some instead of encouraging<br>> responsibility.
While i'm totally comfortable with the principle, if<br>> enough people
tell me that it communicates something to them that is<br>> different
than what i'm trying to communicate, there's a problem. <br>> <br>>
For me, what's worse is that often times people remember it as:
"What<br>> happens is that which is supposed to happen" or "There's a
reason for<br>> everything that happens." This can have us sounding like
Christian<br>> fundamentalist.<br>> <br>> We've been experimenting
in Haitian Creole and in English with this:<br>> <br>> What Happens is
what happens - learn and move forward.<br>> <br>> Here's an example of
a text that would explain this principle:<br>> <br>> This principle
helps us to not lament over should'ves, to not wallow<br>> in regrets.
We're all responsible for how we use our time and space<br>> together
during this meeting. Let's assume that responsibility and be<br>>
prepared to accept what happens and to continually strive to learn
and<br>> to keep moving forward.<br>> <br>> i covet your
thoughts.<br>> <br>> John<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>>
<a href="http://www.johnengle.net" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">www.johnengle.net</a> Open space facilitation<br>> <a href="http://www.circlesofchange.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
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<img src="chrome://skype_ff_toolbar_win/content/space.gif" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; height: 1px; width: 1px;" class="skype_tb_img_space" height="1" width="1">509-461-3067</span><span style="background-image: url(chrome://skype_ff_toolbar_win/content/cb_normal_r.gif);" class="skype_tb_injection_left_img" id="__skype_highlight_id_right_adge">
<img src="chrome://skype_ff_toolbar_win/content/cb_transparent_r.gif" style="height: 11px; width: 19px;" class="skype_tb_img_adge" height="11"></span></span></span><br><br>email:
<a href="mailto:john@johnengle.net" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">john@johnengle.net</a> <br>telephone: <span onmouseup="SetCallButtonPressed(this, 0,0)" onmousedown="SetCallButtonPressed(this, 1,0)" onmouseover="SetCallButton(this, 1,0);skype_active=CheckCallButton(this);" onmouseout="SetCallButton(this, 0,0);HideSkypeMenu();" class="skype_tb_injection" id="__skype_highlight_id">
<span title="Change country code ..." onclick="javascript:if(1){doRunCMD(event, 'chdial','19');}else{doRunCMD(event, 'call','+12022366532');}event.preventBubble();return false;" onmouseout="SetCallButtonPart(this, 0);" onmouseover="SetCallButtonPart(this, 1);" class="skype_tb_injection_left" id="__skype_highlight_id_left">
<span style="background-image: url(chrome://skype_ff_toolbar_win/content/cb_normal_l.gif);" class="skype_tb_injection_left_img" id="__skype_highlight_id_left_adge"><img src="chrome://skype_ff_toolbar_win/content/cb_transparent_l.gif" style="height: 11px; width: 7px;" class="skype_tb_img_adge" height="11">
</span><span class="skype_tb_injection_left_img" id="__skype_highlight_id_left_img"><img style="width: 16px;" src="chrome://skype_ff_toolbar_win/content/famfamfam/us.gif" title="" class="skype_tb_img_flag" name="skype_tb_img_f19">
<img src="chrome://skype_ff_toolbar_win/content/space.gif" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; height: 1px; width: 1px;" class="skype_tb_img_space" height="1" width="1"><img src="chrome://skype_ff_toolbar_win/content/space.gif" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; height: 1px; width: 1px;" class="skype_tb_img_space" height="1" width="1">
<img src="chrome://skype_ff_toolbar_win/content/arrow.gif" title="" class="skype_tb_img_arrow" name="skype_tb_img_a19"><img src="chrome://skype_ff_toolbar_win/content/space.gif" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; height: 1px; width: 1px;" class="skype_tb_img_space" height="1" width="1">
<img src="chrome://skype_ff_toolbar_win/content/space.gif" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; height: 1px; width: 1px;" class="skype_tb_img_space" height="1" width="1"></span></span><img src="chrome://skype_ff_toolbar_win/content/space.gif" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; height: 1px; width: 1px;" class="skype_tb_img_space" height="1" width="1">
<span title="Call this phone number in United States of America with Skype: +12022366532" onclick="javascript:doRunCMD(event, 'call','+12022366532');event.preventBubble();return false;" onmouseout="SetCallButtonPart(this, 0)" onmouseover="SetCallButtonPart(this, 1)" class="skype_tb_injection_right" id="__skype_highlight_id_right">
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<img src="chrome://skype_ff_toolbar_win/content/space.gif" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; height: 1px; width: 1px;" class="skype_tb_img_space" height="1" width="1"><img src="chrome://skype_ff_toolbar_win/content/space.gif" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; height: 1px; width: 1px;" class="skype_tb_img_space" height="1" width="1">
<img src="chrome://skype_ff_toolbar_win/content/space.gif" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; height: 1px; width: 1px;" class="skype_tb_img_space" height="1" width="1">202-236-6532</span><span style="background-image: url(chrome://skype_ff_toolbar_win/content/cb_normal_r.gif);" class="skype_tb_injection_left_img" id="__skype_highlight_id_right_adge">
<img src="chrome://skype_ff_toolbar_win/content/cb_transparent_r.gif" style="height: 11px; width: 19px;" class="skype_tb_img_adge" height="11"></span></span></span> <br>fax: 202-449-8343
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