This is an interesting conversation froma number of perspectives. I am currently looking at ways to make my business as green as we can get it and purchasing carbon offsets is on my mind. I travel A LOT and a lot of it is by air, so I'm pretty aware of how much carbon is being consumed to move my body around the world.
<br><br>My current thinking is that there are more tangible and real ways of bringing a sustainability consciousness to my work and investing money to support that. I agree with Monbiot that purchasing carbon credits without also having a sustainability consciousness isn't really the shift that is needed. For me. it is a far more productive practice to find ways to make Open Space meetings less dependant on non renewable resources, offering good local or organic food where we can and minimizing the amount of paper we use. Doing that is tangible because it is action that proceeds from the consciousness we are talking about AND is actually makes a difference. Unlike Open Space meetings, planes fly anyway, and to some extent, it feels like I am hopping a ride on an already scheduled carbon event. If I pay more attention to the small choices that I make in everyday practice, ironically it has a bigger impact. It;s about bringin presence and mindfulness to the work.
<br><br>Not to say that purchasing carbon credits is a bad idea, it's just that I'm looking at it from the perspective of spending money. If I am going to put my money where my mouth is regarding climate change, I am leaning towards investing that money in local economy, with local businesses who are operating sustainably too. I am a member of the Business Alliance for Local Living Economy, which is a North America wide network of local business hubs focussed on sustainability and thriving local economies. Supporting other businesses in our network is a useful and tangible step.
<br><br>It's an interesting thing to be thinking about. The challenge for me, from an Open Space perspective, is how to marry passion and responsibility to bring about the changes I want to see. A vibrant local economy with supplies purchased not from Staples and other big box office supply stores but from my friend down the road who runs
<a href="http://Frogfile.ca">Frogfile.ca</a> is a more tangible way of doing it for me. <br><br>Thanks for the carbon credit links though...definitely putting it in my mix.. <br><br>Chris<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">
On 4/12/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">cliodhna mulhern</b> <<a href="mailto:cliodhna@flowstone.org.uk">cliodhna@flowstone.org.uk</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<p><span class="q">To quote wikipedia which highlights the views of a fellow Oxford <br>
resident - George Monbiot:<br>
<br>
"Many environmentalists disagree with the principle of carbon offsets. <br></span>
George Monbiot , an English environmentalist and <span class="q"><br>
writer, has compared carbon offsets to the practice of purchasing <br></span>
Indulgences during the Middle Ages, whereby people <span class="q"><br>
with money could purchase forgiveness for their sins (instead of <br>
actually repenting and not sinning anymore). Monbiot also says that <br>
carbon offsets are an excuse for business as usual with regards to <br></span>
pollution. To date, no authoritative studies have been <span class="q"><br>
performed concerning offset buyers' behavior (e.g., whether they take <br>
other measures to reduce their CO_2 output.)"<br>
<br>
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_offset" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_offset</span></a></span>
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Hello Jon and thank you for this posting. I think George Monbiot's thoughts give us a helpful nudge to be realistic about the limitations of carbon offsetting as a strategy while embracing the motivation behind it...it is really great that there is such a surge of self-awareness in travel planning and I take my hat off to everyone who is thinking twice about how to get from A to B...
</p>
<p>From the (unusually) sunny Faughan Valley in North West Ireland.<br>
<br>
<span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 128);">Cliodhna Mulhern <br>
flowstone <br>
+44(0)7929 328513 <br>
<br>
<span style="color: rgb(50, 205, 50);">"All meaningful and lasting change starts first in your imagination and then works its way out. Imagination is more important than knowledge. " <br>
Albert Einstein </span></span><br>
<br>
<b>On Wed Apr 11 23:50 , Jon Harvey sent:<br>
<br>
</b></p>
<blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(81, 103, 198); padding-right: 0px; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px;"><span class="q">Catherine<br>
<br>
No - I did not think your posting was a hoax. My response was whimsical <br>
(perhaps to lighten the mood a little on this listserv at the moment... <br>
the website I recommended - which I parenthesised - is a real spoof <br>
website that is quite funny).<br>
<br>
But I do think there is a serious point here as well (which lies behind <br>
the spoof website too) as to whether carbon offsetting is an effective <br>
response to global warming.<br>
<br>
To quote wikipedia which highlights the views of a fellow Oxford <br>
resident - George Monbiot:<br>
<br>
"Many environmentalists disagree with the principle of carbon offsets. <br></span>
George Monbiot , an English environmentalist and <span class="q"><br>
writer, has compared carbon offsets to the practice of purchasing <br></span>
Indulgences during the Middle Ages, whereby people <div><span class="e" id="q_111e57acfb614395_13"><br>
with money could purchase forgiveness for their sins (instead of <br>
actually repenting and not sinning anymore). Monbiot also says that <br>
carbon offsets are an excuse for business as usual with regards to <br>
pollution.^[15] <#_note-7> To date, no authoritative studies have been <br>
performed concerning offset buyers' behavior (e.g., whether they take <br>
other measures to reduce their CO_2 output.)"<br>
<br>
<a href="http://parse.pl?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FCarbon_offset" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_offset
</span></a><br>
<br>
I do have some sympathies with his point of view. And I do appreciate <br>
your commitment to using trains. This is a complex area of ethics and I <br>
am still working out my own standards.<br>
<br>
Hope this helps and keeps the space open..<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
<br>
Jon<br>
<br>
<br>
Catherine Pfaehler wrote:<br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">> Jon, my posting was serious. Did you check out the website of</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">> <a href="http://mail.uk2.net/parse.pl?redirect=http://www.myclimate.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">www.myclimate.org</a>, or did you just think it was a hoax?
</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">></span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">> I'm using it regularly when I fly (which I avoid whenever I can take a train</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">> around Europe), and so is our company for its car. I have followed this</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">> initiative from its beginning. It's now 5 years old and has become a serious</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">> and ethical business.</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">></span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">> Regards - Catherine</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">></span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">> Catherine Pfaehler Senn</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">> lic.oec.HSG</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">> Open Space Begleitung</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">> Kellersriedweg 8</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">> CH - 2503 Biel</span><br>
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<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">> <a>c.pfaehler@bluewin.ch</a></span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">></span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">></span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----</span><br></span></div>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">> Von: Jon Harvey [<a>only.connect@virgin.net</a>','','','')"><a>only.connect@virgin.net</a>] </span><div><span class="e" id="q_111e57acfb614395_15">
<br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 11. April 2007 23:34</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">> An: <a></a><a href="mailto:c.pfaehler@bluewin.ch" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">c.pfaehler@bluewin.ch</a></span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">> Cc: <a></a><a href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a></span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">> Betreff: Re: climate-neutral flights and drives!</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">></span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">> Hi all</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">></span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">> I would also 'recommend' a website called:</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">></span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">> <a href="http://mail.uk2.net/parse.pl?redirect=http://www.cheatneutral.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"></a><a href="http://www.cheatneutral.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
www.cheatneutral.com</a></span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">></span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">> ...where people who are committing adultery can have their behaviour </span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">> offset by someone else who is committed to a single life or fidelity...</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">></span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">> I have also resolved to drink only flat beers from now on - as I think </span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">> that gassy beer can only be adding to greenhouse gases...</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">></span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">> Happy space to everyone!</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">></span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">> Jon</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">> Oxford</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">></span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">></span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">></span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">> Catherine Pfaehler wrote:</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">> </span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">>> Harrison and everybody - wishing you well...</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">>></span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">>> Did you know that on <a href="http://mail.uk2.net/parse.pl?redirect=http://www.myclimate.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"></a><a href="http://www.myclimate.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
www.myclimate.org</a> you can buy climate tickets along</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">>> with your airline tickets to CO2-neutralize your flights, and even your</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">>> </span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">> car</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">> </span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">>> drives? A great initiative by swiss students which is doing a wonderful</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">>> </span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">> job</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">> </span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">>> in investing the money they make in neutralizing projects! You enter your</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">>> points of departure and arrival and the system calculates how many tons of</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">>> CO2 you emit by sitting in that plane. Then it tells you how much a</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">>> </span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">> climate</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">> </span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">>> ticket costs. You buy it with your credit card. Absolutely affordable!</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">>></span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">>> Love, Catherine</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">>></span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">>> Catherine Pfaehler Senn</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">>> lic.oec.HSG</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">>> Open Space Begleitung</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">>> Kellersriedweg 8</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">>> CH - 2503 Biel</span><br>
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<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">>> <a></a><a href="mailto:c.pfaehler@bluewin.ch" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">c.pfaehler@bluewin.ch</a></span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">>></span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----</span><br></span></div>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">>> Von: Harrison Owen [<a></a><a href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">hhowen@verizon.net</a>','','','')">
<a></a><a href="mailto:hhowen@verizon.net" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">hhowen@verizon.net</a>] </span><div><span class="e" id="q_111e57acfb614395_17"><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 11. April 2007 01:50</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">>> Betreff: For My Friends in Kiev</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">>></span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">>> Just so you know - I think what you are doing is wonderful, and I hope</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">>> </span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">> that</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">> </span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">>> everybody who can - will come. For myself - I would be there except for a</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">>> Sciatic Nerve that reminds me that I am not as young as I used to be, and</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">>> further -- that multiple hours on planes is not a good thing at this</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">>> </span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">> point.</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">> </span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">>> I was amazed (depressed) to find that on United Airlines alone I had</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">>> </span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">> clocked</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">> </span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">>> ¾ of a million miles. Just think of the tons of CO2 (greenhouse gas) I</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">>> </span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">> have</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">> </span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">>> contributed!!! Anyhow, I have to stick closer to home at the moment, and I</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">>> know you will have a grand time!</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">>></span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">>> Harrison</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">>></span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">>> Harrison Owen</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">>> 7808 River Falls Drive</span><br>
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">>> Potomac, Maryland 20854</span><br>
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:</span><br>
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</a></span><br>
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view the archives of <a></a><a href="mailto:oslist@listserv.boisestate.edu" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">oslist@listserv.boisestate.edu</a>:<br>
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http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html</a><br>
<br>
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To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs:
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</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>CHRIS CORRIGAN<br>Facilitation - Training<br>Open Space Technology<br><br>Weblog: <a href="http://www.chriscorrigan.com/parkinglot">http://www.chriscorrigan.com/parkinglot
</a><br>Site: <a href="http://www.chriscorrigan.com">http://www.chriscorrigan.com</a><br><br>Principal, Harvest Moon Consultants, Ltd.<br><a href="http://www.harvestmoonconsultants.com">http://www.harvestmoonconsultants.com
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